[Discussion] Kizaru's "speed of light"...

[Vandenre1ch]

I think Dragon already has Uranus. Considering that Poseidon is the god of sea and Shirahoshi is Poseidon (controls sea kings etc.). Uranus was the personification of sky. Dragon has shown to summon storms and strong winds. I think Dragon has Uranus in his possession (90% sure). Also, One Piece is most likely not a Piece of a staff Lol.

its 90% confirmed that Dragon already has Uranus in his possession.

Pluton is the power the take life. Poseidon is the power to control life. Uranus is the power to give life. What does controlling storms have to do with giving life? The storms is most likely Dragon's DF ability.

The top piece of Uranus contains the power to give life. The Gorosei has the lower half of Uranus(The staff held by the Gorosei with a black hat) that can only extend life. The Gorosei wants the upper half of Uranus and that One Piece of it is located in Raftel.

Remember Enel's cover story when he was looking at ancient drawings? The 3 people in the painting respresented the ancient weapons. The guy with the fishhead respresents poseidon, the guy with the battle gear represents pluton and the guy with the Skypia-like clothes represents Uranus. He was holding a staff that had a big stone or gem-like thing at the top of it. The gem at the top of it is One Piece.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Yes its precise location is unknown but what is know about it is that its the last island of GL its called "the end of the world". Now, for someone who can travel at lightspeed (7.48 times around planet earth) it should take a split second to find travel through GL and find Raftel. Even if you don't know where it is, you search around at the speed of light and eventually it will come across since you already have the biggest hint. Last island on GL.

This is also under the assumption that Kizaru has perfect recollection and sight during these trips. And this is also assuming no obscuring weather patterns don't get in your way.

Not to mention Kizaru is lazy.


@Tobiramas but at that point we have an issue of weight....because a Marine Ship isn't hauling that weight and not sinking.

 

[Fireplay]

Pluton is the power the take life. Poseidon is the power to control life. Uranus is the power to give life. What does controlling storms have to do with giving life? The storms is most likely Dragon's DF ability.

The top piece of Uranus contains the power to give life. The Gorosei has the lower half of Uranus(The staff held by the Gorosei with a black hat) that can only extend life. The Gorosei wants the upper half of Uranus and that One Piece of it is located in Raftel.

Remember Enel's cover story when he was looking at ancient drawings? The 3 people in the painting respresented the ancient weapons. The guy with the fishhead respresents poseidon, the guy with the battle gear represents pluton and the guy with the Skypia-like clothes represents Uranus. He was holding a staff that had a big stone or gem-like thing at the top of it. The gem at the top of it is One Piece.

The Ancient Weapons were said to be weapons of mass destruction. Now, it would make no sense for The Gorosei to be able to extend life and/or Dragon having a DF that allows him to control weather.

Think about it. Look at the many DF's we have in One Piece, none of them allows the user to control something that they didn't generate themself. That would be too overpowered and is unheard of. Dragon was somehow able to control the sky itself. Wherever he went there was a storm and he was able to create a huge gust of wind without even moving a finger. That is beyond overpowered. Oda wont allow something like that as a Devil Fruit. Lets be realistic here. Dragon would solo the verse.

Even with others, have you seen Aokiji control ice that he didnt generate himself? Have you seen Ace control fire that he didn't generate himself? No. You eat a DF and it gives you power. The devil in the fruits goes inside your body. Now how is a Devil going to go inside your body and somehow give you the ability to control sky itself? Overpowered, unrealistic and simply unnecessary considering that we have Uranus already to fit that task.

Poseidon: God of the sea
Uranus: Personification of sky/heaven

The Ancient Weapons are said to be weapons of mass destruction that will allow someone to either rule or destroy the world with it.

Also, on the whole "Uranus gem" thing. Its not really plausible as the rest of the figures also have plenty of things on them that have nothing to do with the ancient weapons. But you can see that Uranus (not sure if the guy with a "gem" on his staff is supposed to be Uranus") but if it is then you'll notice that he has a staff.

What is Uranus associated with? Personification of sky/heavens. Control over storm, clouds etc.

Now a STAFF that controls storms, clouds etc. would be Nami's clima tact. Uranus is most likely not Nami's clima tact but taking into account that it has something to do with sky/heavens i think thats a good hint on what Uranus could actually be just on a larger scale.

The fact that Dragon can control the sky itself already confirms that he has something to do with Uranus. Whether he has it or he is it i don't know but what he pulled off in Loguetown and the storms he keeps creating are similar to Nami's clima tact abilities just on a way bigger scale.

Now, that theory about the Gorosei's staff being able to extend life is very unlikely. Bonney already has a DF that allows her to give herself and others youth and Akainu already captured her yet 2 years later we see her eating and roaming free out of ID. If life extension is indeed necessary the marines would've just used her therefore Uranus being able to extend life is a waste of space because we already have a DF for that.

Anyways, the Gorosei's staff being Uranus is a very far fetched theory (although i kinda like the idea of giving eternal life). Dragon has already proven that he is able to control the sky itself and lets be honest here...you and i both know that no Devil Fruit in existence can allow an indivual to control the sky itself. Not to mention he did it without lifting a finger.
If Dragon with only a DF can pull that loguetown feat off without lifting a finger then a pissed off Dragon would solo this verse. Not happening.

I like the way you're theory but i honestly don't see One Piece being a gem.

 

[WolfHaley]

kizaru is not speed of light never was just said he was.

Kizaru IS light. How can light not be the speed of light?

OT: It's because

1. He has duties
2. It's not known that OP is on Raftel for sure
3. He doesn't know where Raftel is
4. His light mirror can go all the way there

 

[WolfHaley]

The Ancient Weapons were said to be weapons of mass destruction. Now, it would make no sense for The Gorosei to be able to extend life and/or Dragon having a DF that allows him to control weather.

Think about it. Look at the many DF's we have in One Piece, none of them allows the user to control something that they didn't generate themself. That would be too overpowered and is unheard of. Dragon was somehow able to control the sky itself. Wherever he went there was a storm and he was able to create a huge gust of wind without even moving a finger. That is beyond overpowered. Oda wont allow something like that as a Devil Fruit. Lets be realistic here. Dragon would solo the verse.

Even with others, have you seen Aokiji control ice that he didnt generate himself? Have you seen Ace control fire that he didn't generate himself? No. You eat a DF and it gives you power. The devil in the fruits goes inside your body. Now how is a Devil going to go inside your body and somehow give you the ability to control sky itself? Overpowered, unrealistic and simply unnecessary considering that we have Uranus already to fit that task.

Poseidon: God of the sea
Uranus: Personification of sky/heaven

The Ancient Weapons are said to be weapons of mass destruction that will allow someone to either rule or destroy the world with it.

Also, on the whole "Uranus gem" thing. Its not really plausible as the rest of the figures also have plenty of things on them that have nothing to do with the ancient weapons. But you can see that Uranus (not sure if the guy with a "gem" on his staff is supposed to be Uranus") but if it is then you'll notice that he has a staff.

What is Uranus associated with? Personification of sky/heavens. Control over storm, clouds etc.

Now a STAFF that controls storms, clouds etc. would be Nami's clima tact. Uranus is most likely not Nami's clima tact but taking into account that it has something to do with sky/heavens i think thats a good hint on what Uranus could actually be just on a larger scale.

The fact that Dragon can control the sky itself already confirms that he has something to do with Uranus. Whether he has it or he is it i don't know but what he pulled off in Loguetown and the storms he keeps creating are similar to Nami's clima tact abilities just on a way bigger scale.

Now, that theory about the Gorosei's staff being able to extend life is very unlikely. Bonney already has a DF that allows her to give herself and others youth and Akainu already captured her yet 2 years later we see her eating and roaming free out of ID. If life extension is indeed necessary the marines would've just used her therefore Uranus being able to extend life is a waste of space because we already have a DF for that.

Anyways, the Gorosei's staff being Uranus is a very far fetched theory (although i kinda like the idea of giving eternal life). Dragon has already proven that he is able to control the sky itself and lets be honest here...you and i both know that no Devil Fruit in existence can allow an indivual to control the sky itself. Not to mention he did it without lifting a finger.
If Dragon with only a DF can pull that loguetown feat off without lifting a finger then a pissed off Dragon would solo this verse. Not happening.

I like the way you're theory but i honestly don't see One Piece being a gem.

@Bold: You just gonna ignore Pica's and Inuzuma's fruits?

 

[Fireplay]

@Bold: You just gonna ignore Pica's and Inuzuma's fruits?

Alright, you got me this time but this isn't over yet.

I'll be lurking on every thread you post in.

 

[ultraChalk]

OP, if it were as easy as you make it seem, the Government would've deployed 1000s of teams of marines all around he New World to find it. There's something either hiding it, or blocking them from finding it.

Either way his DF is the Light DF and it has the potential to indeed move at light speed. Either he hasn't trained that hard to achieve that speed, or he simply hasn't needed to use that speed yet. I'm going with the latter, but we'll see.

 

[U mAd]

well knowing kizaru i doubt that he trained at all.other people try to master their DF but kizaru was just fine shooting beams out of his fingers.so i think although he might be able to move at speed of light he hasn't archived it.

 

[WolfHaley]

well knowing kizaru i doubt that he trained at all.other people try to master their DF but kizaru was just fine shooting beams out of his fingers.so i think although he might be able to move at speed of light he hasn't archived it.

Dude, Kizaru is light. He can move at light speed.

 

[U mAd]

Dude, Kizaru is light. He can move at light speed.

he should be but we have seen marco hit him and block his kick.

 

[WolfHaley]

he should be but we have seen marco hit him and block his kick.

You clearly misunderstand when Kizaru travels at light speed. He travels at light speed in Yata Mirror path

 

[U mAd]

You clearly misunderstand when Kizaru travels at light speed. He travels at light speed in Yata Mirror path

yeah that's the only attack that's shown kiazaru to be that fast.

 

[Red Swag]

thats not the right question. there might be some secret keys or whatever in order to reach where one piece is at.

if hes really that fast he should be able to kill anyone. including roger wb all the top tiers should be easy for him.

and he really should be that fast since it's one of light's attribute. just like how luffy is immune to electricity. sadly plot bs again.

 

[WolfHaley]

thats not the right question. there might be some secret keys or whatever in order to reach where one piece is at.

if hes really that fast he should be able to kill anyone. including roger wb all the top tiers should be easy for him.

and he really should be that fast since it's one of light's attribute. just like how luffy is immune to electricity. sadly plot bs again.

Oh. My. God.
Kizaru CAN move that fast, but only if he creates the Yata Mirror path. But like Rayleigh has shown, that can be countered. He can't do any movement at light speed freely. Jesus do you people even pay attention.