Naruto forgives Obito? How Chapter 687 should have went down

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how will naruto break the cycle of hatred if he cant forgive the person hes supposed to hate the most?
Exactly it makes no sense.
Is this Kishi's genius writing so many Narutobase members persitantly bring up when they over glorify the Naruto series?
 

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Thats not true though. Madara is more of a catalyst for narutos suffering by creating the situation in the first place. And overall BZ is the cataylst for everyones sufferings by manipulating madara and the rest of the uchiha.

You're right about that. It's a huge chain reaction all caused by Black Zetsu, but Obito I think is still quite responsible for much of Naruto's pain.
 

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This chapter shat on any form of maturity or development Naruto had and made me lose hope for Naruto's maturity level.
If kishimoto was going by all the development he gave Naruto before this whole arc, this is how the chapter would have went down.


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I agree that the rin flashbacks were irrellevant and not needed but thatd be taking a serious step back in development imo.

After the pain fight naruto realized that not holding on to grudges is the only way to move towards peace.

Naruto and obito are very similar and naruto realizes that and respects obito for returning to his old self and "taking off the mask" as he said a couple chapters ago.

Not to say i couldnt have seeb kishi going this direction with this chapter because i could understand and respect this as well but for overall development i feel the way kishi did it serves obito and naruto justice and i really liked the chapter minus the needless rin flashbacks in the middle
 

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how will naruto break the cycle of hatred if he cant forgive the person hes supposed to hate the most?
The circle of hatred still exists after Obito's death even if Naruto forgave him. The Circle of hatred will die when Sasuke is either killed or becomes hokage.
 

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The circle of hatred still exists after Obito's death even if Naruto forgave him. The Circle of hatred will die when Sasuke is either killed or becomes hokage.

Naruto is not gonna allow that
 

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The circle of hatred still exists after Obito's death even if Naruto forgave him. The Circle of hatred will die when Sasuke is either killed or becomes hokage.

So Sasuke is the cycle of hatred? Why would anyone let him be Hokage then?
 

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You're right about that. It's a huge chain reaction all caused by Black Zetsu, but Obito I think is still quite responsible for much of Naruto's pain.

Yes that is true. Obito did act carelessly on his emotions which could have at least prolongd this chain of events which was impossible to escape.
 

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lol @ "and please believe" ... Didn't realize Obito used black-people ebonics/slang when he talks.
"please believe me". I didn't know anyone could be so ignorant and stupid at the same damn time.
 

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This chapter shat on any form of maturity or development Naruto had and made me lose hope for Naruto's maturity level.
If kishimoto was going by all the development he gave Naruto before this whole arc, this is how the chapter would have went down.


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Dude i was aspired by Naruto's ways of doing things and his mentality but Kishi threw everything away with that chapter. That was THE MOST STUPIDEST chapter i have ever read..

But you my friend, you described how it should have been the most proper way. If kishi had written the way you had written, i would have gained alot more respect for Kishi, Naruto's character AND Obito's character.

After reading that chapter i just couldn't believe it, in that moment i was like (Holy shit, even Sasuke isn't that stupid to say things like that). Kishi just went to far, even with the last panel where obito says "Become hokage AT ALL COSTS"

Do you ****ing know what it means "AT ALL COSTS" kishi? DO YOU? like wtf
Obito wanted to be with Rin AT ALL COSTS which resulted in thousands and thousands of death now he wants Naruto to do the same?.

That was utter bullsht, i have never lost so much value and respect for a character in one chapter. It is soo sad to have it like that. I have learned many things from this manga, which i appreciate and hold it dear.

BUT THAT CHAPTER WAS THE UTTER MOST CRAP I HAVE EVER READ.
 

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Would you people please relax, obito had payed for what he did by dieing, but he still saved both naruto and sasukes life from near death, if it weren't for obito naruto would be dead, so yes he deserves forgiveness.

Pfft, You are fooling yourself if you think Obito paid for what he did by dying. Remember Death is the easy way.
I'll give you some options and tell me which will you chose.

1. Would you rather be tortured for 10+ years? (Skin parts of your body but not kill you, burn your body parts but not let you die, emotionally tromatize you or KILL YOUR WHOLE FAMILY infront of you and etc..)
2. Would you rather be tortured for 20+ years (Skin parts of your body but not kill you, burn your body parts but not let you die, emotionally tromatize you or KILL YOUR WHOLE FAMILY infront of you and more...)
3. Would you rather be tortured for 30+ years (Same as the above and more).

4. Or just die. (During death you do not feel pain, nothing at all)

In every situatioin possible DEATH is the easy way out, it's the cowards way out. That's why people do not let others suicide. People suicide because they cannot cope with their lives NOT because they want to get punished for their crimes.
 

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Naruto is supposed to stop the cycle of hatred how is he going to do that if he can't forgive Obito?
 

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When did Naruto say he forgives Obito for all the bad stuff he has done? Naruto has to stop the cycle of hatred Minato told him that inside his mind when he was going Kyuubi.
 

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This is even worse because you just wasted an entire chapter with flashbacks.

Kishi could've done what he did but leave out the unnecessary and undeserved obito wank.
 
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