DMS Obito > Ftg

[Great Master Minato]

He stated that his attacks slip through him.

Since his ftg is instant, only instant can keep up with instant.

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Let Me Clear This For You...FTG Is Instant Not Minato's Body Movements U_U

 

[VongolaX]

Oh For God Sake...The Jutsu Itself Is Instant...Minato's Reaction Is Not Instant If It Was He Would Be Invincible...

Minato jumped with ftg did you not see?

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Minatyo's reflexes are superior to Obito's during their first fight.

 

[Gold Lightning]

i said obito can snipe a kunai thrown at him stopping him from being blitzed. if there are no kunai's close to him minato would be at a disadvantage in CQC.

if a bunch are thrown at obito he can distance himself with his other kamui.

obito has the advantage at mid range.

read this, understand this, then edit your argument

Ok I understand why you're trying to say now. But him sniping a kunai is still disadvantageous. You're not taking into considering how fast Minatos body flicker is. Of he attempts to try and warp a kunai, minato will just blitz behind him. Obito shouldn't even use offensive kamui at all against minato, because that's a huge risk. Only the intangible version if the safest way to avoid and dodge.

And no Obito doesn't have the advantage in CQC, as long as minato has FTG kunai in his hands, he'll be fine. Don't underestimate Minatos reflexes, because they're completely out of Obitos league. If Obito tries to grab him during CQC, it's not something minato can't quickly toss a kunai to the side of Obito to FTG to. Minato did the same thing to Ay so fast that we didn't even see when he left the kunai. The same way Tobirama utilised FTG in CQC against Madara by dropping the kunai and teleporting to it, in order to avoid Madara's strike.

Fastest reflexes combined with FTG and superior foot speed isn't losing to CQC against obit, no matter how many kamui he has. And it doesn't matter what range Obito is at, Minatos body flicker alone closes the gap in an instant. And multiple shadow clones completely overwhelm Obito in CQC. He'll have to resort to intangibility at all times against minato in CQC.

 

[VongolaX]

Read the pages before that incident idiot. Minato was out of chakra and had to knead more chakra before he could jump. He was in the process of kneading chakra when Obito attacked.

Nowhere did it state that he needed to knead more chakra dumb@ss.

I'm not taking you any seriously, obviously you're full of sh*t.

 

[VongolaX]

Let Me Clear This For You...FTG Is Instant Not Minato's Body Movements U_U

Read the other post

 

[Gold Lightning]

Nowhere did it state that he needed to need more chakra dumb@ss.

I'm not taking you any seriously, obviously you're full of sh*t.

That first scan you showed where minato was trying to teleport to save Sasuke and Naruto is bs. The mark on Obito disappeared, which is what minato was trying to teleport to but it failed due to no marking. So not sure what you're trying to show in that scan.

And Obito ripped off Minatos arms because Obito has faster reflexes as a Juubi Jin. Minato teleported after he lost his arm (a second too late). The teleportation is instant, Minatos striking and reflexes are not however.

 

[TrollingSage]

Nowhere did it state that he needed to knead more chakra dumb@ss.

I'm not taking you any seriously, obviously you're full of sh*t.

Yea you know that handsign Minato was doing? That's the hand sign for kneading chakra.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Minato jumped with ftg did you not see?

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Minatyo's reflexes are superior to Obito's during their first fight.

Minato's Reflexes Are Not Instant But FTG Is...

 

[Demonic.]

Does that idiot Variaboss still think Obito is the fastest shinobi in the world?

 

[VongolaX]

That first scan you showed where minato was trying to teleport to save Sasuke and Naruto is bs. The mark on Obito disappeared, which is what minato was trying to teleport to but it failed due to no marking. So not sure what you're trying to show in that scan.

That scan is to show minato traveling with ftg after scattering the knives around Obito.

This has nothing to do with the mark.....

People are arguing that ftg is INSTANT

This is an example of ftg being used to travel between knives, yet being stopped short.

And Obito ripped off Minatos arms because Obito has faster reflexes as a Juubi Jin. Minato teleported after he lost his arm (a second too late). The teleportation is instant, Minatos striking and reflexes are not however.

Well no, he teleported towards Obito.

That was the whole point to his long as @ss name justu.

Minato jumped too late to evade the Gudodama that he attached to his arm.

That is what the second scan is for.

 

[VongolaX]

Minato's Reflexes Are Not Instant But FTG Is...

Those aren't reflexes, he jumped with ftg.

what don't you understand?

In fact this is what reflexes mean:

re·flex
ˈrēˌfleks/Submit
noun
plural noun: reflexes
1.
an action that is performed as a response to a stimulus and without conscious thought.
"a newborn baby is equipped with basic reflexes"
"he was saved by his superb reflexes"
(in reflexology) a response in a part of the body to stimulation of a corresponding point on the feet, hands, or head.
"reflex points"
2.
a thing that is determined by and reproduces the essential features or qualities of something else.
"politics was no more than a reflex of economics"



So you can cut the misuse of reflexes, since it was Obito who blocked minato's ftg with his reflexes.

reflexes don't lung out in full speed, especially when Minato ftg right back next to Sasuke and Naruto at a distance from Obito.

 

[Great Master Minato]

For The Last Time FTG As A jutsu Is Instant...But Nobody's Reflexes & Body Movements Are Instant (This Includes Minato As Well)
I'm Done Arguing With You...

 

[VongolaX]

For The Last Time FTG As A jutsu Is Instant...But Nobody's Reflexes & Body Movements Are Instant (This Includes Minato As Well)
I'm Done Arguing With You...

There is no reflexes

No reflexes send you 50 meters the opposite direction....

Are people this stupid?

 

[Great Master Minato]

There is no reflexes

No reflexes send you 50 meters the opposite direction....

Are people this stupid?

FTG Doesn't Perform By Itself...Minato Must Trigger The Jutsu & It Depends On His Reflexes...You Are Truly Stupid If You Can't Understand This!

 

[VongolaX]

FTG Doesn't Perform By Itself...Minato Must Trigger The Jutsu & It Depends On His Reflexes...You Are Truly Stupid If You Can't Understand This!

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He was even able to send Hiruzen to his own face monument away from his own face monument that was already marked.

 

[synkross]

DMS Obito stomps Minato and Tobirama. Infact DMS Obito is invincible 1v1.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Every post sounds dumber than the last:

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He was even able to send Hiruzen to his own face monument away from his own face monument that was already marked.

You Answered Your Self...Minato Perform The Jutsu On His Will So It Depends On His Reaction Speed That Is Not Instant But The Jutsu Itself Is Instant...

 

[ShiroT]

Every post sounds dumber than the last:

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He was even able to send Hiruzen to his own face monument away from his own face monument that was already marked.

just curious, what point are you trying to make?

 

[VongolaX]

Another think I find completely stupid from most people here is that you believe Tobirama/Minato have to mark an item before traveling

towards it.

Minato never marked the frog, naruto, or Sasuke yet but he was still able to use FTG to jump on top of the frogs head away from the Gojo.

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Tobirmama never marked Minato, yet he still jumped towards minato and jumped somewhere else without marking him first:

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Here is where he marks Minato for the first time:

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[VongolaX]

just curious, what point are you trying to make?

That both kamui and ftg are the same speed, Kamui being a little bit more proficient.

That all it takes to tag Obito (kamui) is by beating his reflexes.

Strike him the nano second he decides to go solid.

The reason why this battle didn't work in his favor is because of Kyuubi, which illogical dunderheads tend to neglect.