DMS Obito > Ftg

[ShiroT]

FTG had already beaten Kamui before though,not to mention it's instant.

read op.

im not countering the jutsu im countering the kunai's which is needed for the jutsu

 

[Gold Lightning]

no im saying that he can snipe any close kunai. thus he cant be blitzed which would in the end hurt minato

And what about the other dozens of kunai that land by his feet or behind him or by his side. Please don't say he can kamui or react to them all.

 

[JStar King]

Minato owned Obito.

 

[JStar King]

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Minato should have known something was up because Madara wouldn't fall for things like this.

 

[ShiroT]

And what about the other dozens of kunai that land by his feet or behind him or by his side. Please don't say he can kamui or react to them all.

he uses his other kamui to become intangible and gets some distance . . .

 

[Gold Lightning]

he uses his other kamui to become intangible and gets some distance . . .

Lol, pick one. Who says he can use offensive kamui and defensive kamui both at the same time? Minato wouldn't just watch and wait for him to warp all the kunai. He'll attack whilst he's in the middle of that by warping to the other Kunai that go past Obito.

And if Obito then stops to become intangible, then he'll have to stop warping the other kunai, which fly into his face. It's like you're forgetting how fast instant is and how many kunai minato can throw at a time. It's literally impossible for Obito to try and warp them and then hope to avoid minato at the same time. And this is without minato using shadow clones, if minato uses clones and starts throwing kunai at him from all sides, what's Obito gonna do?

Trying to warp the kunai is quite frankly the stupidest thing he can ever do against minato, because he'll get blitzed due to not actually focussing on his opponent. It's almost the same as when Obito tried to warp himself againstmkonan, but then she used bombs to put him off. It's basically the same scenario except with a barrage of FTG kunai and clones of minato coming from different directions.

FTG speed>>>>any kamui. Which Obito has no feats if even using, so we don't even know how it works if he tried to use both simultaneously.

 

[ShiroT]

Lol, pick one. Who says he can use offensive kamui and defensive kamui both at the same time? Minato wouldn't just watch and wait for him to warp all the kunai. He'll attack whilst he's in the middle of that by warping to the other Kunai that go past Obito.

And if Obito then stops to become intangible, then he'll have to stop warping the other kunai, which fly into his face. It's like you're forgetting how fast instant is and how many kunai minato can throw at a time. It's literally impossible for Obito to try and warp them and then hope to avoid minato at the same time. And this is without minato using shadow clones, if minato uses clones and starts throwing kunai at him from all sides, what's Obito gonna do?

Trying to warp the kunai is quite frankly the stupidest thing he can ever do against minato, because he'll get blitzed due to not actually focussing on his opponent. It's almost the same as when Obito tried to warp himself againstmkonan, but then she used bombs to put him off. It's basically the same scenario except with a barrage of FTG kunai and clones of minato coming from different directions.

FTG speed>>>>any kamui. Which Obito has no feats if even using, so we don't even know how it works if he tried to use both simultaneously.

i said obito can snipe a kunai thrown at him stopping him from being blitzed. if there are no kunai's close to him minato would be at a disadvantage in CQC.

if a bunch are thrown at obito he can distance himself with his other kamui.

obito has the advantage at mid range.

read this, understand this, then edit your argument

 

[VongolaX]

Minato said Kamui is better since he can avoit almost everything . Kamui isn't faster . If Kamui was faster than Minato would not be able to escape the first time when he was half sucked .

He did say it was faster... 0_o

In fact Obito said that next time he will warp him the instant he touches him.

Minato barely escaped, and Obito didn't use his fastest kamui to quickly warp him.

He tried to do it again, but Minato worked a counter attack on him because his reflexes are completely superior.

Only ftg users with superior reflexes can fight a kamui user with times counter attacks.

Also take into account that he had to exhaust more chakra taming the kyuubi's every move.

All the roars, tail whip, and ttb usage were all on Obito's chakra limiting him to use a few kamui options.

Otherwise he would of just merge on the ground and keep the constant sneak attacks since it nearly worked for him the last time.

 

[Great Master Minato]

He did say it was faster... 0_o

In fact Obito said that next time he will warp him the instant he touches him.

Minato barely escaped, and Obito didn't use his fastest kamui to quickly warp him.

He tried to do it again, but Minato worked a counter attack on him because his reflexes are completely superior.

Only ftg users with superior reflexes can fight a kamui user with times counter attacks.

Also take into account that he had to exhaust more chakra taming the kyuubi's every move.

All the roars, tail whip, and ttb usage were all on Obito's chakra limiting him to use a few kamui options.

Otherwise he would of just merge on the ground and keep the constant sneak attacks since it nearly worked for him the last time.

He Said Kamui Is Better/More Advanced...
FTG Is Instant...Nothing Is Faster Than Instant :|

 

[Demonic.]

He Said Kamui Is Better/More Advanced...
FTG Is Instant...Nothing Is Faster Than Instant :|

Damn. A Chunin shitted all over Variaboss argument XD

True spit though. FTG is faster than Kamui. Minato said it was better cause it didn't require hand signs or markings.

 

[VongolaX]

He Said Kamui Is Better/More Advanced...
FTG Is Instant...Nothing Is Faster Than Instant :|

Other forms of Kamui is Instant :|

Otherwise Obito wouldn't be able to trade blows with Minato in the first place.

Do you even read?

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He stated split second earlier

No to debunk this instant argument for good:

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[VongolaX]

Damn. A Chunin shitted all over Variaboss argument XD

True spit though. FTG is faster than Kamui. Minato said it was better cause it didn't require hand signs or markings.

A complete idiot...

truly

 

[TrollingSage]

Other forms of Kamui is Instant :|

Otherwise Obito wouldn't be able to trade blows with Minato in the first place.

Do you even read?

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Where is the scan of Minato saying kamui is faster?

 

[Great Master Minato]

Other forms of Kamui is Instant :|

Otherwise Obito wouldn't be able to trade blows with Minato in the first place.

Do you even read?

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He stated split second earlier

Do You Know The Definition Of Instant Sir?

 

[Demonic.]

A complete idiot...

truly

If Kamui was instant he wouldn't have needed Kakashi's help to double his jumping speed.

If Kamui was instant he wouldn't have died and relied on Izanagi to escape Konans paper bombs.


Kamui is not instant, FTG is instant dumbass.

 

[VongolaX]

Do You Know The Definition Of Instant Sir?

clearly you don't because this is not instant:

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A non space time incarnation beating "instant," somehow.

Well kid....

explain, there is no such thing as faster than instant

 

[Great Master Minato]

clearly you don't because this is not instant:

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A non space time incarnation beating "instant," somehow.

Well kid....

explain, there is no such thing as faster than instant

Oh For God Sake...The Jutsu Itself Is Instant...Minato's Reaction Is Not Instant If It Was He Would Be Invincible...

 

[TrollingSage]

clearly you don't because this is not instant:

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A non space time incarnation beating "instant," somehow.

Well kid....

explain, there is no such thing as faster than instant

Read the pages before that incident idiot. Minato was out of chakra and had to knead more chakra before he could jump. He was in the process of kneading chakra when Obito attacked.

 

[VongolaX]

Where is the scan of Minato saying kamui is faster?

He stated that his attacks slip through him.

Since his ftg is instant, only instant can keep up with instant.

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[TrollingSage]

He stated that his attacks slip through him.

Since his ftg is instant, only instant can keep up with instant.

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LEL. FTG is instant. But Einstein, FTG is not a ****ing attack. It just teleports the user to a specified location. The user then attacks.
Long story short, FTG is instant but the attack that follows it isn't