DBZ battle of gods, liars asspullers,zero facts/etc

[Rekudakune]

the big part that has been bothering lately with dbz is how everyone is actually starting to asspull this one part from the movie with an effort to say that characters like ssj4 goku and ssj4 gogeta would get destroyed by bills and god goku. now i come to realize that this is all BS but the fact remains what am i exatcly talking about? what asspull is that?
well your about to find out

after the BoG some fans started to say that at one point of the movie apparently Bills tells goku that not even with a million years of training wouldnt be able to reach ssj god form or beat bills. now i have no problems or what so ever with that, because its true, ssj god would kneel every ssj form beside him even ssj100 or ssj1000

but the problem is you see? WHERE DOES BILLS EVER SAY THAT??? i watched over 3 different uploaders that posted dbz battle of gods and there was never such talk that bills ever said something like that. i mean am i blind or something, i read every single sub, i sure didnt miss anything or i hope not.

in the beggining when bills meets goku. goku asks him to spar with him, bills just says that hes either filled with confidence or stupid he never tells goku that not even a million years of him training he would be able to beat him or obtain ssj god powers to beat him!

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

No need to worry, both Battle Of Gods and SSJ 4 are not canon

 

[Wolfus]

No need to worry, both Battle Of Gods and SSJ 4 are not canon

Battle of Gods is canon. Toriyama wrote it and confirmed it himself that it is.

 

[Rekudakune]

No need to worry, both Battle Of Gods and SSJ 4 are not canon

battle of gods is cannon buddy. even though its not in the manga. z fighters like krillin with prep time could beat bills eventually and goku stated himself that he was not satisfised with god power, therefore godly ki is pathetic haha

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Battle of Gods is canon. Toriyama wrote it and confirmed it himself that it is.

battle of gods is cannon buddy. even though its not in the manga. z fighters like krillin with prep time could beat bills eventually and goku stated himself that he was not satisfised with god power, therefore godly ki is pathetic haha

Didnt know that, well it sucks then...

 

[Wolfus]

battle of gods is cannon buddy. even though its not in the manga. z fighters like krillin with prep time could beat bills eventually and goku stated himself that he was not satisfised with god power, therefore godly ki is pathetic haha

Dude, you can give krillin 100000 years of prep time, he'll never even scratch perfect cell, let alone bills.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

And this has what to do with Super Saiyan 4 Goku beating bilis ?

....Nothing ?

There was never any attempt to measure or scale power levels after trunks arrival before the android saga

GT was not cannon and known for being inconsistent
So with no comparison in regards to power how you come to this assumption is beyond my realm of thought

 

[ssjsage]

Battle of Gods is canon. Toriyama wrote it and confirmed it himself that it is.

My question is that if it is Canon shouldn't king kai not have a planet?

 

[Wolfus]

Didnt know that, well it sucks then...

There is a new movie coming next year. Also written by toriyama. So, 2 canon movies now.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

My question is that if it is Canon shouldn't king kai not have a planet?

There is no "if" Kishi said it is.

Its called a new a one.

 

[Wolfus]

My question is that if it is Canon shouldn't king kai not have a planet?

Good point. However, there are 2 possibilities here

1- Toriyama forgot. Lets face it, it's possible.

2- Goku wished for his planet to be brought back. The guys catch the dragon balls like nothing, currently. And goku was the one to blame for the planet's destruction. That's the least he could do.

 

[Wolfus]

There is no "if" Kishi said it is.

Its called a new a one.

Hahahahaha. Kishi said it? So kishi is writting dbz too? Hahahaha Jk, bro. It's habit, now, right?

 

[ssjsage]

Hahahahaha. Kishi said it? So kishi is writting dbz too? Hahahaha Jk, bro. It's habit, now, right?

Hahaha I was just about to say that. Most likely a spoof

 

[ssjsage]

Good point. However, there are 2 possibilities here

1- Toriyama forgot. Lets face it, it's possible.

2- Goku wished for his planet to be brought back. The guys catch the dragon balls like nothing, currently. And goku was the one to blame for the planet's destruction. That's the least he could do.

Probably number 1. If it's number 2 then gokus an ass. Took him 10 years to give king Kia is planet back

 

[Prog]

Bills said something about how you can't become a god just by raising your power level. that's probably where people get that from.

 

[Rekudakune]

Bills said something about how you can't become a god just by raising your power level. that's probably where people get that from.

is there a scan where bills says that? prt sc it and use postimage.org to show it to me thru
also i think it was actually piccolo who said that??

 

[Rekudakune]

Good point. However, there are 2 possibilities here

1- Toriyama forgot. Lets face it, it's possible.

2- Goku wished for his planet to be brought back. The guys catch the dragon balls like nothing, currently. And goku was the one to blame for the planet's destruction. That's the least he could do.

is this even topic related?

 

[Rekudakune]

And this has what to do with Super Saiyan 4 Goku beating bilis ?

....Nothing ?

There was never any attempt to measure or scale power levels after trunks arrival before the android saga

GT was not cannon and known for being inconsistent
So with no comparison in regards to power how you come to this assumption is beyond my realm of thought

and this what has to do with the whole point of me making this thread?
this was never a fight between ssj4 goku and bills, this has to do with whenever obtaining god ki for goku made him inferior and infinitly stronger than a person with normal, ki because people say that bills stated somewhere than goku in not in a million years of training would be able to unlock super saiyan god ki.

 

[ssjsage]

is this even topic related?

Yes it is.

 

[Ghan]

And this has what to do with Super Saiyan 4 Goku beating bilis ?

....Nothing ?

There was never any attempt to measure or scale power levels after trunks arrival before the android saga

GT was not cannon and known for being inconsistent
So with no comparison in regards to power how you come to this assumption is beyond my realm of thought

DBZ as a whole is inconsistent.