[Theory] one of the biggest Naruto Mysteries = Kisame saw Tobito OR Tobidara??!!

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You snap once again Just like your Youtube Videos xD

The Jiraya video is my favorite one so far. And this one To
 
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i liked this Tobidara theory from the first time i saw it, but one thing that drive me nuts every time, after 10 Tobidara theories you still spell "human" as "humain" please dont continue it. thanks.
 

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Kinda like how you never addressed the fact that Kisame most likely doesn't know what Madara looks like in the first place since a member of his clan didn't even know who he was.
 

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The fact that kishi revealed the truth about obito and madara's stories
(How they survived and all) recently in the manga doesn't explain why
I finished ang got hyped after reading the entire post bro. Hahaha
It's not that bad of a theory after all, though it could've been a plausible reason why
Obito is OP with only 1 sharingan. Hahahaha if only this theory came before
The obito reveal.. Weew Nevertheless great work bro


..and 1 last thing. just to strengthen the hype, I think kisame knew
How madara looked like. Imo not only him but i think all shinobi knew coz
Hashirama and madara has A f***in statue at the VOTE remember?
Even suigetsu recognized hashirama directly right after edo tensei'd by oro
 
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Actually read all of it.. Interesting theories non the less but my comment would be that Kisame probably never knew how Madara looked like, so when Tobi removed his mask; Kisame assumed it was Madara.
 

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i liked this Tobidara theory from the first time i saw it, but one thing that drive me nuts every time, after 10 Tobidara theories you still spell "human" as "humain" please dont continue it. thanks.

this is actually tobidara thread number 51, we've been keeping track
 

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As stated, the only thing that bugs this whole theory is Madara controlling the Mizukage. Now...

1. We know that Obito took on Madara's name after Madara died. Shortly after we see him talk to Yahiko, Nagato and Konan about forming Akatsuki. Now he might have had that idea a long time ago but it was Yahiko and Nagato that created the organisation. Fact number 1.

2. When Madara/obito reveals himself in front of Kisame, he asks him to join his plan and to join Akatsuki. Fact 2.

Here is where it gets interesting.
If Madara/obito revealed himself in front of Kisame BEFORE the conversation with Yahiko/Nagato, then we can safely assume that it was indeed Madara who was controlling the Mizukage. In that case, the moment Tobi dropped his mask, Kisame should have noticed that it wasn't Madara behind the mask but Obito - a rather unfamiliar character to him.

If Madara/obito revealed himself in front of Kisame AFTER the conversation with Yahiko/Nagato, then we can safely assume that it was actually Obito who spoke to Kisame and pretended to be Madara. In that case Kisame would have no idea how Madara looked and would take his words for it. He would also react the way he did after Tobi dropped his mask as he would have seen Obito's familiar face.

Obito/Tobi was never revealed to have any particular Genjutsu skills so the idea he controlled the Mizukage for that long vexes me greatly. But it could be that it wasn't relevant to the story. In any case this is the ONLY moment in the manga that can be disputed and wer still have no solid proof or accuracy when it comes to timelines in NV.
 

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Jokes aside, this is very well written, +rep. Looking forward for the reveal.
 

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Kinda like how you never addressed the fact that Kisame most likely doesn't know what Madara looks like in the first place since a member of his clan didn't even know who he was.


madara is a legend...his valey of end statue, albums and pics are everywhere ..madara is more famous the Fame itself!!...
 

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obito recruited kisame into akatsuki after itachi joined. obito and kisame were close. kisame knew he was lying.

why are you still doing this?
 

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Great thread. I am also bothered how someone not skilled at genjutsu, and Obito was never shown to be, could haver controlled the mizukage.
 

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Great thread. I am also bothered how someone not skilled at genjutsu, and Obito was never shown to be, could haver controlled the mizukage.

he controlled the nine tails dude..... he was controlling yagure around the time of the uchiha massacre. he recruited kisame after that.

kisame died protecting tobis identity so the plan wasnt ruined for the infinite tsukyomi they both wanted.

all what madara needed to use to control obito was darkness.

minamoto is just trolling just so you know.
 
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Wait .... So if Obito is dead ... And Madara is dead ... Then how does this thread make any sense whatsoever?
 

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Epic Theory. You should be given an award for this. :)
 

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Title alone proves this is a total troll thread.

Please give up.
 
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