Kakashi used MS before fighting Deidara (possible manga evidence + discussion)

Haloguy2710

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In this thread I am trying to provide some manga evidences which hopefully can start a discussion of whether Kakashi had indeed used MS before fighting Deidara. Please note this is only a discussion thread, I am not concluding that Kakashi did use it before.

Evidence 1) &

As Kakashi prepared to fight 30% Itachi, Kakashi said 'How far has your eye-sight deterioated'. Upon this, Itachi realises that Kakashi's sharingan has changed in terms of power (the next panel). This could mean that Kakashi had used MS in the past and his eyes have already begun deteriorating or Kakashi knows about the MS side effects (could be either way).

Evidence 2)

After Kakashi uses the first Kamui that we witness, he thinks:
"I still cant properly control the location and size..."

Could this mean that Kakashi had used MS in the past, for practice? Possibly during the timeskip when he was working on his stamina? I am unsure.

Thanks for reading!
 
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The links don't work but yes I agree. He had already been practicing with it.
 

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Didn't he say he practiced the technique before? I could have sworn he was going to mention it at the beginning of pt 2 at some point but Naruto and Sakura weren't listening. It was pretty clear that he had attempted the technique prior to using it against Deidara
 

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Are you sure the links are not working? They are working for me.

Sorry in advance
 

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Are you sure the links are not working? They are working for me.

Sorry in advance

Well for me they don't but I remember the panels you're speaking of so it's fine.
 

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Naruton on mr is blocked in us.
 

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I think maybe for practice, but that would still be scarce use considering it hospitalized him
 

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Didn't he say he practiced the technique before? I could have sworn he was going to mention it at the beginning of pt 2 at some point but Naruto and Sakura weren't listening. It was pretty clear that he had attempted the technique prior to using it against Deidara
I agree with this
 

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Kakashi activated his MS right after he killed Rin...But he passed out immediately afterwards

Much like Sasuke forgetting when he first activated his sharingan after his clan's massacre only to not activate it again until 4 years later; same with Kakashi. He supressed that event and never tried taking his sharingan further until after his meeting with Itachi. After discovering that there was a higher level to the sharingan (MS) due to his encounter with Itachi, I say that forced Kakashi to discover if he could push his sharingan to that level and rediscovered that he had it during the time skip and practiced

he never used it before in Part 1 without a doubt...but his fight with Deidara wasn't his first time using it. He, if anything practiced it during the timeskip of Part 1 & 2

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Kakashi activated his MS right after he killed Rin...But he passed out immediately afterwards

Much like Sasuke forgetting when he first activated his sharingan after his clan's massacre only to not activate it again until 4 years later; same with Kakashi. He supressed that event and never tried taking his sharingan further until after his meeting with Itachi. After discovering that there was a higher level to the sharingan (MS) due to his encounter with Itachi, I say that forced Kakashi to discover if he could push his sharingan to that level and rediscovered that he had it during the time skip and practiced

he never used it before in Part 1 without a doubt...but his fight with Deidara wasn't his first time using it. He, if anything practiced it during the timeskip of Part 1 & 2

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Good point. Agreed
 

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he was practicing warping cans.
 
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