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If it wasn't for Obito they'd be dead; he's the true definition of Bad-ass

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I've found it quite interesting at all the relief/bashing I've seen lately on Obito and some saying he should've died early on. The truth is not many have done what Obito has in this manga. The way he has influenced this story is undeniably effective.

Albeit his sins, Obito is also the reason Naruto and Sasuke are where they are.

If he really wanted he could've killed Naruto right when he was born, but he could care less so he didn't.
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He healed up Sasuke (First-Aid) and told him the Truth about Itachi, otherwise Sasuke would've been in the dark about his brother.
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Then he saved Sasuke again from Onoki's Jinton.
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And then he saved himself and Sasuke Again from Ay.
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If it wasn't for Obito transplanting Itachi's eyes Sasuke would be blind right now.
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Minato ("The Savior") failed to save Naruto while Day-Dreaming about his Wife.
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And then Minato, Kakashi, and Gaara were taken care of easily by Madara.
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While Obito alone on the verge death took The Kyuubi-piece and Gyuuki Piece and trolled Rikudou Madara and saved Naruto.
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If it wasn't for Obito Sakura would be dead.
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Sasuke couldn't get himself out of the dimension.
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Obito was the one who brought Sasuke back to the dimension with Naruto.
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Not to mention he saved Kakashi twice.
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Hate him or love him, you can't deny he is a bad-ass.

Not only this, but he trolled death many times.
Let's see how he compared to the other characters.
Nagato to Itachi:
Was 'beat' by Itachi twice.
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Obito and Itachi
Amaterasu, the unblock-able attack? Nope.
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The Bad-ass Madara compared to Obito:
Madara died in a cave alone.
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And then was defeated by Black Zetsu.
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While Obito was half-dead and took control back from BZ and later died a hero.
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Not to mention that fact he trolled death many times, just to mention a few:
Madara states that it's a miracle Obito survived through the Boulder (more-sobottom towards the right)
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The Deadly Poison Bugs that meant death? Nope.
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Kamui Snipe? Not a chance.
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One Billion Paper Bombs? Nope.
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"Prime Kiba"'s fang over Fang? Side-stepped.
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Even in his last moments he chose to die. He could've Kamui'd the bone coming at him or use Izanagi, but he chose to die and went out like a bad-ass against the Strongest Character in the manga.
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I just find it hilarious of how blind some people are to the fact of how he's saved some of their favs.
Give the man credit where it's due, this manga went from the Bad-ass to Juubito to Kaguya who needs BZ to tell her what to do.

Dat Obito. :cool:
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dat obito. always the one true badass with all his characters. haters gonna hate.

if obito died right away, the story would be different and he wouldnt have an opposite closure against madaras death.

its interesting bc kakashi said ''remeber the bell test'' a few chapters ago. sasuke went on to do things alone and obito saved and reunited everyone of the new team 7. kakashi ended the bell test by telling them obitos words. its the same here. hes with them in spirit.
 
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If he really wanted to he could've killed Naruto as an infant, but he didn't? That's your argument? XD he attached paper bombs to that infant.
 
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Clouds said:
He's the person that started all that bs... wth?
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Nope, blame Kaguya and Madara :)
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If he really wanted to he could've killed Naruto as an infant, but he didn't? That's your argument? XD he attached paper bombs to that infant.
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That one was a stretch I admit, but the overall point shows that Naruto would've been dead meat had not been for Obito, and same the other way around, that's what makes their relationship to each other unique.
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If it wasn't for Obito there would be no war. Yep, what a hero. He really was the coolest guy.
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Already said above that the events fault were Madara/Kaguya's, plus BZ was still alive.
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He was trying to clean up the mess he started. That isn't bad-ass. That's pathetic.
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Already said above these events came to be from the people like Madara/Kaguya/BZ. Where it was his fault he did clean it up and that's not "pathetic". "Shinobi are judged by how they die." He had one hell of a death.
 
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He shouldn't have let his emotions get the best of him. I mean look at Kakashi, he was the one who had to watch one of his comrades get killed and killed the other and he didn't turn evil.
 
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Psy said:
He shouldn't have let his emotions get the best of him. I mean look at Kakashi, he was the one who had to watch one of his comrades get killed and killed the other and he didn't turn evil.
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I agree that he shouldn't of succumbed to the hatred inside him; but don't forget Madara planned all of this to happen cause he knew he could exploit the Youth's Trauma to use him which is why he chose him. Same thing later happened to Nagato and even Sasuke.
 
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Vega said:
Nope, blame Kaguya and Madara :)

That one was a stretch I admit, but the overall point shows that Naruto would've been dead meat had not been for Obito, and same the other way around, that's what makes their relationship to each other unique.

Already said above that the events fault were Madara/Kaguya's, plus BZ was still alive.

Already said above these events came to be from the people like Madara/Kaguya/BZ. Where it was his fault he did clean it up and that's not "pathetic". "Shinobi are judged by how they die." He had one hell of a death.
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Really now? Obito is the person that got manipulated. He could've been like no fk off im not listening to you. But he wasn't thinking with his brains. He was thinking with his boner for rin.
 
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to be honest, there wouldnt be an alliance if obito/madara wasnt a common enemy.
he saw the alliance jutsu and was inside wishing he could be a part of it and that it wouldnt fall apart. that maybe there was a chance. meanwhile madara was scoffing at it.

naruto almost joined him too lol. meanwhile madara was saying obito had become just like he used to be. naruto could have fallen too.

no ones justifying his choices, he screwed up. madaras pain spread to obito which affected all other characters in the manga.
but nations have been screwing each other over as well. no ones perfect. no ones better than him.
 
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Vega said:
Already said above that the events fault were Madara/Kaguya's, plus BZ was still alive.

Already said above these events came to be from the people like Madara/Kaguya/BZ. Where it was his fault he did clean it up and that's not "pathetic". "Shinobi are judged by how they die." He had one hell of a death.
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You're saying that Obito was forced to do what he did? Obito admitted he was a criminal and his death was forced(Izangai? Teleporting the bone?).
 
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Clouds said:
Really now? Obito is the person that got manipulated. He could've been like no fk off im not listening to you. But he wasn't thinking with his brains. He was thinking with his boner for rin.
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He already tried to say fvck off to Madara and went to join his friends, when he saw Rin die that was the breaking point for him. Madara planned the events in a way such that anyone else in that situation would've done exactly the same. Obito's manipulation is nothing exclusive him. If Obito knew that Madara was the one who planned it all he would've told him to fk off again, but he didn't know and then he screwed up and joined the dark-side.

Anyways my whole point of the thread was to show the fact that as a character he accepted he made mistakes in his life but also without his change of heart the Good guys wouldn't have made it this far.

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You're saying that Obito was forced to do what he did? Obito admitted he was a criminal and his death was forced(Izangai? Teleporting the bone?).
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Not sure what you mean. I'm saying Obito wasn't the root of all problems, but he certainly had screw-ups. I don't deny Obito was a criminal with blood on his hands, and I meant that he chose to die there as there were methods that could've enabled him to live.
 
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Vega said:
I've found it quite interesting at all the relief/bashing I've seen lately on Obito and some saying he should've died early on. The truth is not many have done what Obito has in this manga. The way he has influenced this story is undeniably effective.

Albeit his sins, Obito is also the reason Naruto and Sasuke are where they are.

If he really wanted he could've killed Naruto right when he was born, but he could care less so he didn't.
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He healed up Sasuke (First-Aid) and told him the Truth about Itachi, otherwise Sasuke would've been in the dark about his brother.
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Then he saved Sasuke again from Onoki's Jinton.
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And then he saved himself and Sasuke Again from Ay.
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If it wasn't for Obito transplanting Itachi's eyes Sasuke would be blind right now.
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Minato ("The Savior") failed to save Naruto while Day-Dreaming about his Wife.
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And then Minato, Kakashi, and Gaara were taken care of easily by Madara.
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While Obito alone on the verge death took The Kyuubi-piece and Gyuuki Piece and trolled Rikudou Madara and saved Naruto.
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If it wasn't for Obito Sakura would be dead.
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Sasuke couldn't get himself out of the dimension.
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Obito was the one who brought Sasuke back to the dimension with Naruto.
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Not to mention he saved Kakashi twice.
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Hate him or love him, you can't deny he is a bad-ass.

Not only this, but he trolled death many times.
Let's see how he compared to the other characters.
Nagato to Itachi:
Was 'beat' by Itachi twice.
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Obito and Itachi
Amaterasu, the unblock-able attack? Nope.
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The Bad-ass Madara compared to Obito:
Madara died in a cave alone.
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And then was defeated by Black Zetsu.
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While Obito was half-dead and took control back from BZ and later died a hero.
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Not to mention that fact he trolled death many times, just to mention a few:
Madara states that it's a miracle Obito survived through the Boulder (more-sobottom towards the right)
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The Deadly Poison Bugs that meant death? Nope.
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Kamui Snipe? Not a chance.
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One Billion Paper Bombs? Nope.
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"Prime Kiba"'s fang over Fang? Side-stepped.
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? Negative.
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Even in his last moments he chose to die. He could've Kamui'd the bone coming at him or use Izanagi, but he chose to die and went out like a bad-ass against the Strongest Character in the manga.
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I just find it hilarious of how blind some people are to the fact of how he's saved some of their favs.
Give the man credit where it's due, this manga went from the Bad-ass to Juubito to Kaguya who needs BZ to tell her what to do.

Dat Obito. :cool:
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If he killed Naruto as a kid then notihng stopped Minato from killing him then and there. Obito wanted to separate Minato from Kushina. Had it not been for Obito, both Naruto and Sasuke would have happy lives since both would have their families. With Minato alive there most likely wouldn't have been any Uchiha massacre since he would know that the mask man isn't in the village since he can FTG the mask man to him or go to Obito himself and finish him off. Kushina was friends with Sasuke's mom so I see them finding a peaceful solution as friends. With both of their mothers being friends, Sasuke and Naruto would grow up friends as well. Sasuke would have Itachi, Shisui, and his dad to train him and Naruto would have Minato, Jiraiya, and Kakashi to train him.

Bad examples for the whole Nagato to Itachi crap when it's not Nagato under his own control fighting the way he would and it'a a alive free will Obito. Oh and if Kakashi killed Obito back when he was going to then Madara would still be an Edo Tensei and there wouldn't be a Kaguya so everything is moot since the war would all be focused on Edo Madara who was trapped in Edo Hashirama's seal. Sai was there and could have sealed Madara plus with Obith dead, Minato and Kakashi would have went to where Madara was right when Naruto went so Minato could have sealed Madara himself as well.

If Madara somehow got free, it would have been Edo Madara vs Edo Tobirama, Edo Minato, Edo Hashirama, Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, and Sai while the Alliance would be fighting spiral Zetsu. The Bijuus would also be free to help either group as well.
 
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Vega said:
Not sure what you mean. I'm saying Obito wasn't the root of all problems, but he certainly had screw-ups. I don't deny Obito was a criminal with blood on his hands, and I meant that he chose to die there as there were methods that could've enabled him to live.[/FONT]
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Kakashi pointed that his presence was needed for the battle. His death actually makes things worse is what I mean.
 
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^^^wouldnt solve the bz problem unless he dies too. theyre not psychic....
blame sakura for not destroying that eye....
 
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