Common Misconception. Kamui can get past Yata Mirror

[Dantе]

This is madness. When Obito sucks himself into the Kamui dimension of course he no longer has any form in the real world because he is completely in a separate physical dimension. He simply no longer exists on this plane.

I really don't get this. Zzz

The Space of Universe is the actual time that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is

Now you're unnecessarily over complicating things. You state that if Obito travels through dimensions, but has no way back besides using Kamui again to warp, then he'll end up in the past or future, but the manga has clearly shown that to be false. Obito warps between dimensions constantly in this manga (Not talking about "intangibility", yet he's always ended up in the same place he warped from.

So that clearly shows this logic doesn't work here.

That's what I'm trying to ****ing explain this ****ing shit to you. Obito got to have some entity in the real world to resume to the time he left. He warps away to Kamuiland and gets back to the same time because he has some entity in the ****ing real world.

You get this now?

 

[Mad Daz]

Lmao what? That is one weak argument.

 

[Trúth]

Lmao what? That is one weak argument.

8 pages of arguing would disagreee

 

[Dantе]

I think Yata not able to block Kamui that travel from one point to another point because the user is completely in separated dimension from real world. Same as intangibility move.

But for Kamui snipe, it able to block it because the MS eye sent the chakra signal at the chosen target and open dimensional warp to warping the target. That mean Yata are able to block the chakra signal.

Thanks.

The Space of Universe is the actual time that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is

Thanks

Obito controls his space (body) to move at an incredible rate over time that it seems inhuman.

Yes, Obito has shown to be completely intangible when entering in dimensions:

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He sends in one part first before sending the rest

Kaguya has her own method as well, which Obito was amazed how she can travel far dimensions in a short amount of time.

The Space of Universe is the actual time that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is

That's the reason he's got to have some entity in the real world altogether.

 

[Lightbringer]

First, some part of him is clearly still there. His body is visible.
2nd that's not the only way. My whole theory relies on it changing form to stop any attack. If we consider that it is an attack then it changes to block it. one way or another.

Obito's visibility is just an image of him through the looking glass. It does not exist. That image exists as much as your reflection in a mirror exists.

Punching a reflection of you in the mirror doesn't stop or hurt the real you.



Yata Mirror changes properties to match the jutsu. First, Water, Wind, Earth, Ice, Wood, etc. Kamui is unique to Obito. It does not use any element.

Obito can only be stopped in Kamui-land. Yata Mirror can't, I stress can't, travel through to his dimension.

 

[KidGamer65]

That's what I'm trying to ****ing explain this ****ing shit to you. Obito got to have some entity in the real world to resume to the time he left. He warps away to Kamuiland and gets back to the same time because he has some entity in the ****ing real world.

You get this now?

Allow me to explain this shit to you, cause you obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Obito got to have some entity in the real world to resume to the time he left. He warps away to Kamuiland and gets back to the same time because he has some entity in the ****ing real world.

Explain to me how the fuck Obito has anything of himself left in the real world when he completely teleports to Kamui land?

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NOTHING LEFT. HE IS COMPLETELY IN THE KAMUI DIMENSION. HE DOESN'T EXIST IN THE REAL WORLD AT ALL. You can't see his body in the real world when he teleports in there either, so don't try and use that excuse. Meaning he doesn't need to be in one world in some form in order to get back there. Take the real world logic out of this thread, cause going by what the manga shows, you aren't making any sense.

-Kishi states that when he's intangible, he doesn't exist in the real world.

-This guy and OP pretty much say that Kishi is wrong.

lmao, usual NB. People denying manga fact left and right.

 

[-Spoiler-]

So i'm guessing you posted this in the IB group to get your fellow Itachi fans you agree with you?

How does Yata keep up with Kamui when the latter spawns on point?

 

[Trúth]

Obito's visibility is just an image of him through the looking glass. It does not exist. That image exists as much as your reflection in a mirror exists.

Punching a reflection of you in the mirror doesn't stop or hurt the real you.



Yata Mirror changes properties to match the jutsu. First, Water, Wind, Earth, Ice, Wood, etc. Kamui is unique to Obito. It does not use any element.

Obito can only be stopped in Kamui-land. Yata Mirror can't, I stress can't, travel through to his dimension.

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[Trúth]

So i'm guessing you posted this in the IB group to get your fellow Itachi fans you agree with you?

How does Yata keep up with Kamui when the latter spawns on point?

I actually didnt.

 

[Dantе]

Obito's visibility is just an image of him through the looking glass. It does not exist. That image exists as much as your reflection in a mirror exists.

Punching a reflection of you in the mirror doesn't stop or hurt the real you.



Yata Mirror changes properties to match the jutsu. First, Water, Wind, Earth, Ice, Wood, etc. Kamui is unique to Obito. It does not use any element.

Obito can only be stopped in Kamui-land. Yata Mirror can't, I stress can't, travel through to his dimension.

Once again:

The "Space" of Universe is the actual "Time" that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is

That's the reason he's got to have some entity in the real world altogether.

 

[Ansatsuken]

But the people who were in there house, who were sleeping also got trapped in IT. Light is not the X-Factor.

OH I forgot to add something. The susanoo have some special properties that can block the light going through itself while Yata don't have that.

Light is still the factor here because the special properties that Susanoo have is non exist for the house. Or may also the light going through window and shining on the peoples inside it.

Thanks.

 

[Lightbringer]

Once again:

The "Space" of Universe is the actual "Time" that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is

That's the reason he's got to have some entity in the real world altogether.

You know what's funny? Parallel universes are only in fiction, so we actually don't have any idea of how they work or if they even exist.

That's how Physics is

 

[Angelic.]

stay mad itachi fans

 

[Trúth]

You know what's funny. Parallel universes are only in fiction, so we actually don't have any idea of how they work or if they even exist.

That's how Physics is

All attacks lose their meaning. Physical astral ninjutsu etc. Kamui isn't going to work

 

[Phonas]

Yata Mirror > Kamui

 

[Lightbringer]

All attacks lose their meaning. Physical astral ninjutsu etc. Kamui isn't going to work

You're forcing me to use this argument then.

If Yata can block all "Attacks" and they all lose their meaning, physical, astral, ninjutsu, etc.

Then why couldn't Yata block Itachi's illness? The illness was killing him while he possessed Yata Mirror.

By your definition, Yata Mirror should have changed its property and combated the illness.


The illness isn't even as crazy as something like an Astral attack.

 

[Mellow]

stay mad itachi fans

Stay irrelevant Obito fans

 

[Dantе]

Allow me to explain this shit to you, cause you obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about.



Explain to me how the fuck Obito has anything of himself left in the real world when he completely teleports to Kamui land?

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NOTHING LEFT. HE IS COMPLETELY IN THE KAMUI DIMENSION. HE DOESN'T EXIST IN THE REAL WORLD AT ALL. You can't see his body in the real world when he teleports in there either, so don't try and use that excuse. Meaning he doesn't need to be in one world in some form in order to get back there. Take the real world logic out of this thread, cause going by what the manga shows, you aren't making any sense.

-Kishi states that when he's intangible, he doesn't exist in the real world.

-This guy and OP pretty much say that Kishi is wrong.

lmao, usual NB. People denying manga fact left and right.

I know I can't teach you Physics right here.

But all I'm saying is that when Obito warps into Kamuiland, he has some or the other kind of entity in the real world that's for sure, if you atleast consider it by Physics.

But as you said he's not visible, Yes I agree he's not visible. But that doesn't mean he's literally intangible. There is some chakra related shit in the real world for sure. (I know you'll not agree with chakra thing cause you'll say why didn't Naruto sense him) but there IS some kind of X-Factor that it is.

Matter can't "vanish" like Obito is doing. It has to be something that is just irrelevant for explaining in Manga.

 

[Mellow]

You're forcing me to use this argument then.

If Yata can block all "Attacks" and they all lose their meaning, physical, astral, ninjutsu, etc.

Then why couldn't Yata block Itachi's illness? The illness was killing him while he possessed Yata Mirror.

By your definition, Yata Mirror should have changed its property and combated the illness.


The illness isn't even as crazy as something like an Astral attack.

You sir .. Sound like an idiot. I come back to this thread and you talking about yata blocking an illness. AN INTERNAL illness. INSIDE of itachi

 

[mohdzarif]

The dimension is physical. The technique itself is not.

Are you talking about the long range one whether it will create a hole in the Mirror or not? Are you talking about the warping?

If so, I'm not really sure. But the word "astral" doesn't apply to that. As I've provided you with Google definition, it applies to a non physical realm of existence at which supernatural entities resided.

You also need to consider the scan provided by Mark Sanchez about the long range Kamui.