Itachi>Double Kmaui Obito

[LustyLover]

@KidGamer, I'd explain to you how he'd be able to blitz Obito, but you claim I'm a troll. If that's your mindset then you're not going to take me seriously, so there's no point on me wasting my time on you, unless you're going to decide to be open-minded for once.​

 

[Phonas]

But yeah, Yata Mirror is basically a ghost, hence the statement of it having no physical form in both the databook and the manga. Consequently, Kamui canNOT absorb it. Saying that Kamui can is like saying Kamui can suck in gravity or spirits, which it conspicuously can't.

 

[KidGamer65]

@KidGamer, I'd explain to you how he'd be able to blitz Obito, but you claim I'm a troll. If that's your mindset then you're not going to take me seriously, so there's no point on me wasting my time on you, unless you're going to decide to be open-minded for once.​

Fine, go right ahead.

 

[KamuiGodObito]

But yeah, Yata Mirror is basically a ghost, hence the statement of it having no physical form in both the databook and the manga. Consequently, Kamui canNOT absorb it. Saying that Kamui can is like saying Kamui can suck in gravity or spirits, which it conspicuously can't.

Send it to another dimension.

 

[KidGamer65]

But yeah, Yata Mirror is basically a ghost, hence the statement of it having no physical form in both the databook and the manga. Consequently, Kamui canNOT absorb it. Saying that Kamui can is like saying Kamui can suck in gravity or spirits, which it conspicuously can't.

Lol what? Yata not having a set physical form doesn't mean that its basically a ghost. Something that is basically a ghost wouldn't have blocked Sasuke's attacks. Kamui can and will send the whole Susanoo to the other dimension.

 

[Trúth]

Send it to another dimension.

Lol how old are you? This isn't tough to understand. He can only send it to another dimension using Kamui. But Kamui is ineffective against the shield. Come on.

 

[Phonas]

Send it to another dimension.

How do you send a supernatural, astral repellant that's not even physical to another dimension?

 

[Conspirator.]

Remind me what that is?

Uchiha flame formation. It's a barrier.....

 

[LustyLover]

Fine, go right ahead.

Thanks.


The YM negates astral techniques [

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]. Astral: of or consisting of a supersensible substance held in theosophy to be next above the tangible world in refinement. In other words, astral is the very definition of Obito's Kamui; it is the category under which Kamui would fall, and both the databook and manga claim for it to be able to defend against such attacks. Obito will obviously be targeting the caster of the Susano'o and not the Susano'o itself, which is useless seeing as the YM will be in front of him always [

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Since long-ranged Kamui would be his only option once he finds himself unable to get close to Itachi, the YM negates it as it was canonically stated to be able to do.

As shown here, when a dojutsu technique fails in the process of its execution, it causes immense strain and pain on the body [

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]. Assuming Itachi has intel, he won't let Obito go anywhere near him, which is something Obito would have to do in order to perform a Kamui. However, Obito also has a long-ranged Kamui, which he will rely on in order to stop Itachi from using his Shunshin to out-distance Obito so he'd be unable to get close to him.

Kamui itself is arguably one of the most chakra taxing techniques of all time. To have it broken would cause even more strain than usual on his body, and he himself would be prone to any and all attacks. Once Obito suffers from the backlash of Kamui, Itachi simply Shunshins near Obito with an already-formed Susano'o arm wielding the Sakegari and promptly seals him.

Itachi's Shunshin feats: crossing a considerable distance in an instant [

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], Shunshing behind Bee without him even noticing had Itachi not warned him [

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], blitzing a Sage with perfect sensing to the point of where even he was alarmed [

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] (note a Sharingan user couldn't even understand what had happened when it did).

Considering these feats, Itachi should be able to easily cross the distance in the interim of Obito's backlash and his recovery.​

 

[KamuiGodObito]

Lol how old are you? This isn't tough to understand. He can only send it to another dimension using Kamui. But Kamui is ineffective against the shield. Come on.

It getting warp to the dimension you cant block that you cant counter it.

 

[Trúth]

It getting warp to the dimension you cant block that you cant counter it.

I showed you proof that it can't be. Right up in my first post. You are just making baseless claims.

 

[Trúth]

Uchiha flame formation. It's a barrier.....

Lol Uchiha flame formation. Not only is that likely a technique Itachi knows but tell me why he can't just walk through it with susanoo?

 

[Phonas]

Lol what? Yata not having a set physical form doesn't mean that its basically a ghost. Something that is basically a ghost wouldn't have blocked Sasuke's attacks. Kamui can and will send the whole Susanoo to the other dimension.

I believe the Yata Mirror can magically change into an actual physical form depending on the attack. In the shield's natural state, it's not physical.

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[ChocolateVanilla]

I believe the Yata Mirror can magically change into an actual physical form depending on the attack. In the shield's natural state, it's not physical.

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What stops Kamui from spawning inside the Susano'o?

 

[Phonas]

What stops Kamui from spawning inside the Susano'o?

The Yata Mirror's magical property of inter-dimensional blockage.

 

[Trúth]

@Chocolate It changes properties to deflect all attacks. It would simply take a physical form.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

The Yata Mirror's magical property of inter-dimensional blockage.

But the rift in space itself doesn't pass or interact with Yata in any way if it is opened inside of the Susano'o.
Even if the entire thing was made out of Yata, Kamui would be able to open inside.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

You can't walk through susanoo. Its tangible. Are you saying he uses Kamui to do that? Doesn't matter because of FTC.

Obito can walk through everything else while intangible, but he can't walk through chakra? OK..

 

[KidGamer65]

Thanks.


The YM negates astral techniques [

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]. Astral: of or consisting of a supersensible substance held in theosophy to be next above the tangible world in refinement. In other words, astral is the very definition of Obito's Kamui; it is the category under which Kamui would fall, and both the databook and manga claim for it to be able to defend against such attacks.



Since long-ranged Kamui would be his only option once he finds himself unable to get close to Itachi, the YM negates it as it was canonically stated to be able to do.​

So, Yata hyperbole huh? Yata's technique description states that it changes its properties to block attacks. Everything else is nothing but obvious hyperbole. "All attacks lose their meaning". Hyperbole.

But that's a debate for another time. So I'll just go along with it here.

As shown here, when a dojutsu technique fails in the process of its execution, it causes immense strain and pain on the body [

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]. Assuming Itachi has intel, he won't let Obito go anywhere near him, which is something Obito would have to do in order to perform a Kamui. However, Obito also has a long-ranged Kamui, which he will rely on in order to stop Itachi from using his Shunshin to out-distance Obito so he'd be unable to get close to him.

Kamui itself is arguably one of the most chakra taxing techniques of all time. To have it broken would cause even more strain than usual on his body, and he himself would be prone to any and all attacks. Once Obito suffers from the backlash of Kamui, Itachi simply Shunshins near Obito with an already-formed Susano'o arm wielding the Sakegari and promptly seals him.

And this is where you are wrong. Did we suddenly forget that Obito has been spamming his own variant of Kamui for 17 years yet his eyes aren't blind yet? Did we suddenly forget that Kakashi was using his eye multiple times and suffered no backlash? He warped the Gedo's arm in a split second, no kind of backlash, and its bigger than Itachi's Susanoo.

And there is no proof that Yata negating Kamui would cause Obito more backlash. Nothing but a baseless assumption.

Itachi's Shunshin feats: crossing a considerable distance in an instant [

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]-[

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], Shunshing behind Bee without him evening noticing had Itachi not warned him [

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], blitzing a Sage with perfect sensing to the point of where even he was alarmed [

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] (note a Sharingan user couldn't even understand what happened).

1. First speed feat is irrelevant since they reacted to him. Obito does the same and either warps Itachi away using Kamui, or he phases through his attack.

2. Second speed feat is irrelevant as Obito's reactions>Killer B's. Obito can phase through things with a thought, Killer B can't. Same goes for Kabuto. Obito is faster than them both due to his S/T Ninjutsu.

Itachi isn't blitzing Obito.​

 

[Trúth]

But the rift in space itself doesn't pass or interact with Yata in any way if it is opened inside of the Susano'o.
Even if the entire thing was made out of Yata, Kamui would be able to open inside.

I get what you're saying here, but he still sees Yata meaning it's in the way because of it's abilities. Any other chakra shield you would be right it would just warp past it.