Why are some people trying to excuse away Obito's crimes now?

[Shadow Phantasm]

This post just shows the ignorance of people. The difference between Madara and Obito is that.

1. Madara has seen his whole family get butchered infront of him, He saw his clan constantly dying, he also knew how tobirama would treat his clan once he became
Hokage and He also saw the future of his clan which was to be exterminated by tobirama and his deciples which happend.

He actually wants true peace but his ways are wrong, he was misguided and misinformed.

2. Obito is a direct cause for the deaths of 80,000+ Shinobi's death, Shikimaru's Dad, Ino's Dad, Naruto's Parents, Jiraiya, Uchiha Clan, Asuma and etc
ALL BECAUSE "RIN IS DEAD".

That is the most PATHETIC EXCUSE in the EXISTANCE of ANY LIVING BEING.

Don't make comparisions to 2 different characters. Obito's character has only 1 shell which is Rin. Madara's character has several shells (Humanity suffering through out ages,
his family getting butchered, his clan getting wiped out etc.)

Dude...calm down.I agree with what you said about Madara,but like I said it'd be hilarious if he got a "get away from any consequences" card if he helped the good guys defeat Kaguya.

Please keep it civil.

 

[KingHashirama]

There's a fine line between compassion and forgiveness however.Would you forgive someone who made your entire life a living hell,killed your parents,and was responsible for the deaths of tens and thousands?

Yea if that person had just helped save the world? yes i would...

If that person was screwed out of his childhood...? yes i would

Does it mean that i forgive him? not really..

But if he is the guy died instead of me, and saved my teacher in the process also.. and told me that i should become Hokage no matter what.. and that he had made mistakes in the past.. yea would consider him to be a cool guy..

But here is the thing.. who am i talking about? Am i talking about the guy who butchered people? or am i talking about the guy who saved my ass and my sensei's ass as kids.. and got his childhood and dream stripped away from him?

Naruto and Obito are the same.. .Replace Irkua and Jiraiya with some one like Madara.. Naruto is Obito Version 2.0

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

What about all of the deaths in that village that NARUTO blew up. It's been proven time and time again that in order for there to be tranquility, people need to die (e.g. world wars).

This is a shonen though, so...

What village did Naruto blow up?

 

[Trúth]

Isn't he so cool?

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[Made in Heaven]

Naruto sure loves abusive relationships, doesn't he? First Sasuke, now Obito. Both who have tried to kill him. I guess the only real way to Naruto's heart is to attempt to kill him, then he'll love you.

Being a caring friend and comrade? Supporting you? Dying for you? Pffft, as if such things matter

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[Shadow Phantasm]

Yea if that person had just helped save the world? yes i would...

If that person was screwed out of his childhood...? yes i would

Does it mean that i forgive him? not really..

But if he is the guy died instead of me, and saved my teacher in the process also.. and told me that i should become Hokage no matter what.. and that he had made mistakes in the past.. yea would consider him to be a cool guy..

But here is the thing.. who am i talking about? Am i talking about the guy who butchered people? or am i talking about the guy who saved my ass and my sensei's ass as kids.. and got his childhood and dream stripped away from him?

Naruto and Obito are the same.. .Replace Irkua and Jiraiya with some one like Madara.. Naruto is Obito Version 2.0

Interesting......I believe it would be hard to forgive someone who made a person's life miserable.But that's what makes Naruto unique I guess,other people in his stead would've killed Obito from the start.

 

[Naestro]

Everyone makes mistakes.

He was manipulated and used at his weakest state when he saw rin die.

Lesson learned, at least he went out on the good side.

Everyone makes mistakes. But you have to know the difference between mistakes and crimes. A mistake is when i do not know something and unkowningly do something that causes a minor problem not the death of 80,000+ shinobis and some of the major people.

So Rin is very important in Obito's life. Naruto's parent's aren't to Naruto? Shikimaru and Ino's dads aren't important to them?
Asuma is not important to kurenai and his child? Jiraiya is not important to Naruto and the whole clan? Yahiko and Nagato aren't important to Konan or vise versa? those 80,000+ shinobis who died in this war aren't important to their families?

****-ING think before you justify something or claim it as a mistake.

Mistake is when i unkowningly step on a mice or ant not killing 80,000+ people because "Rin is dead". Stop with this stupid shit I AM COMPLETELY TIRED OF THIS.

 

[Dark Artist]

very logical points and Facts from Lady Byakugan

funny thing that Naruto is crying after Obito death

he was crying over the guy who was the reason why his family died

and why his friend died ( neji )

and why the girl who gave Naruto Flowers ( konan ) died as well ..


not to mention shkimaru , ino Fathers

iruka parents ( Naruto first teacher and protecter )

many others etc

i think kishi needs to rest a little from writing the manga

because what's he is doing right now is weird and stupid ...


Cool guy Lol ​

 

[Made in Heaven]

The formation of Akatsuki lead to MANY MANY deaths, including but not limited to

Konan
Neji
Asuma
Jiriaya
8 Jinchurikis
Kushina
Minato
Iruka's parents
Uchiha Clan
50,000+ killed in WW

Naruto: “Obito is the coolest guy!”

More:

Shikaku
Inochi
Ao
Mabui
Chiyo
Fire Temple Monks

 

[KingHashirama]

Interesting......I believe it would be hard to forgive someone who made a person's life miserable.But that's what makes Naruto unique I guess,other people in his stead would've killed Obito from the start.

Yea other people in his stead would still be in the circle of hatred.. They wouldn't know what to do.

People are acting like Naruto doesn't care about those who died in the war.. OF COURSE HE FREAKING CARES. The dude was tearing up seeing people die like that. However, he isn't gonna hold a grudge against Obito.. when the entire time he was simply being controlled..

Naruto UNDERSTANDS Obito.. he also understood that people would want him to be punished.. and hence why he said he would be punished.. he still smiling to Obito then.

 

[Akemi]

and those people are probably the same ones who said Sasuke can't become hokage because he killed Danzo and few samurai.[a corrupted Anbu leader and he would be a corrupted hokage and lock Naruto away because of Kyubi]

 

[jimbobbity]

Everyone makes mistakes. But you have to know the difference between mistakes and crimes. A mistake is when i do not know something and unkowningly do something that causes a minor problem not the death of 80,000+ shinobis and some of the major people.

So Rin is very important in Obito's life. Naruto's parent's aren't to Naruto? Shikimaru and Ino's dads aren't important to them?
Asuma is not important to kurenai and his child? Jiraiya is not important to Naruto and the whole clan? Yahiko and Nagato aren't important to Konan or vise versa? those 80,000+ shinobis who died in this war aren't important to their families?

****-ING think before you justify something or claim it as a mistake.

Mistake is when i unkowningly step on a mice or ant not killing 80,000+ people because "Rin is dead". Stop with this stupid shit I AM COMPLETELY TIRED OF THIS.

Now I'm not defending Obito here cos I think that what he did was wrong too, but Obito didn't do everything he did just because of Rin, she was just a catalyst. The moment Obito lost Rin, he lost all faith in peace and the world, just as Madara did. Obito lived in a time of war too remember.

 

[KingHashirama]

and those people are probably the same ones who said Sasuke can't become hokage because he killed Danzo and few samurai.[a corrupted Anbu leader and he would be a corrupted hokage and lock Naruto away because of Kyubi]

its weird how some of these members are itachi and danzo fanboys. X_X.

 

[New knight48]

Don't be so stupid and ignorant!

How and why was Obito manipulated by Madara, let my tell you how and why! Because "Rin is dead". That's the only reason he became so weak and got manipulated by Madara. That is the only reason of Obito's existance, which is confirmed atleast 1000000x times throughout the manga even through this chapter. You got so many panels of Rin and Obito's flash backs and sht.

I get depressed when people praise and justify such a weak and unjustified character like Obito. It is just beyond my understanding.

Everything I said is what happened. Stop raging and accept it. You are probably one of those idiots who still don't even understand itachi's story. You are the one being ignorant and naive and can't understand that a character isn't just evil or a psychopath and can have depth. Obito is a victim, simple as that. I guarantee you if you asked kishimoto himself on this subject he would agree with me.

 

[Naestro]

Dude...calm down.I agree with what you said about Madara,but like I said it'd be hilarious if he got a "get away from any consequences" card if he helped the good guys defeat Kaguya.

Please keep it civil.

I did keep it civil, For you words such as that may be harsh but for me someone to claim things like these that are unjustified or comparing 2 characters that have so much difference and definition is harsh. Therefore we both have difference of what is harsh and what is not.

I would rather have someone throw curse at me rather than justify 80,000+ people's death because of 1 death. It is completely absurd to me. It is beyond harsh for me.

 

[-Spoiler-]

Nobody forgot Obito's crimes not even Naruto ( refer to his final moments as Juubi Jin ) but at the same time he did try to redeem himself, its not like he was evil from birth, he was corrupted. but once again this place is filled with double standards as Itachi fans aren't ones to talk.

Obito tried to redeem himself
Itachi got retcon into a Hero.

 

[rollin]

His crimes shouldn't be excused which is why he died the way he did
But I think he has redeemed himself

 

[jimbobbity]

I did keep it civil, For you words such as that may be harsh but for me someone to claim things like these that are unjustified or comparing 2 characters that have so much difference and definition is harsh. Therefore we both have difference of what is harsh and what is not.

I would rather have someone throw curse at me rather than justify 80,000+ people's death because of 1 death. It is completely absurd to me. It is beyond harsh for me.

They don't exist. They're fake.

 

[MinaButt]

This is one of those instances that you hope MS mistranslates

I'm pray that the coolguy thing was a mistranslation.

 

[Naestro]

Everything I said is what happened. Stop raging and accept it. You are probably one of those idiots who still don't even understand itachi's story. You are the one being ignorant and naive and can't understand that a character isn't just evil or a psychopath and can have depth. Obito is a victim, simple as that. I guarantee you if you asked kishimoto himself on this subject he would agree with me.

Itachi is my 2nd most favorate character, it does not matter what itachi did because regardless the Uchiha extermination was going to happen not because of itachi but because of "Danzo, Hiruzen and Elders". His actions was not justified because there were many ways to prevent that. They just chose the wrong choice. His actions make little difference, If not itachi someone else would have done it. They would have found someone else or Danzo's hidden Soldiers would do it.

Stop making everything about Itachi. IT SIMPLY DOES NOT MATTER. I do not hate itachi, I hate everyone's choice to kill a WHOLE clan because they could not understand or atleast try to understand their circumstances. I have quotes of itachi on my computer because what he says is true even in our world. He is an AMAZING character but nothing justifies what was done to the Uchiha clan.