[Theory] Naruto Manga issue = WHO IS THE REALL AKATSUKI FOUNDER???!!

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Akatsuki was for a different purpose but was taken over by obito for his own sole purpose
 

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Lol ahh we missed u man

Obito clearly wasn't lying when he said that was he

Lol
 

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Lol ahh we missed u man

Obito clearly wasn't lying when he said that was he

Lol

for now u r still in the ignore list but if u comment with respect , im gonna respect you back and ublock you
 

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Obviously black zetsu and kaguya started it.

It's been their plan for thousands of years etc.....
 

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No, it was Yahiko who created Akatsuki.




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-the Reall Akatsuki founder shall be the finall villain ...BUT WHO IS IT????


Strangely the Manga introduced many characters, each one claims to have founded akatsuki...but if we follow the logic of timeline we will find out THE REALL AND TRUE FOUDER OF AKATSUKI ORGANIZATION !! :



1-Obito Uchiha :


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-Noo it can't be Obito why? becuz some1 already seem to have instructed Obito to found akatsuki and collect the Bijuus....its BLACK ZETSU !!!

Firstly, Obito by saying these words:

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Or more clearly in this scan:

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Obito is talking about him and Zetsu as an "organisation", not Akatsuki. Which, by the way, he is laying about. . . cuz there was no organisation "to lead the one who awakens the Rinnegan", again it was all a lie. Obito, as he was told by Madara, was befriending Nagato, and with him Akatsuki. . . which was already created by Yahiko.



2-Black Zetsu :


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chapter 681 :
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so is it black zetsu???....NOOOOO!!!...becuz some1 already seemed to be pulling the strings befor black zetsu...AKATSUKI WAS FOUNDED BEFOR EVEN OBITO AND BLACK ZETSU HAD ITS IDEA !!...

First scan, where Zetsu is talking about gathering all the Beasts and reviving Madara, he is talking what they will do after they takeover Akatsuki.

Second scan, Zetsu is talking about what was pland to do afther Obito and him took over Akatsuki. Here is a better translation of the same scan.

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Plus, with you saying this:


AKATSUKI WAS FOUNDED BEFOR EVEN OBITO AND BLACK ZETSU HAD ITS IDEA !!...
You are saying that it was Yahiko who created it. How and why? Well, the only ones to actually meet Yahiko were those two. . . Madara never did. And the only one who HAD the idea, as you say, was Yahiko.

3-NAGATO :

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But again the manga stated that Nagato wasn't the reall akatsuki founder but it was his friend...YAHIKO !!!!!




YAHIKO :


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Yahiko seem to be the reall Akatsuki founder befor even Nagato,Bobito and Black Zetsu !!....


NOOOO!!...AGAIN ITS N0T YAHIKO!!!
Exactly, Yahiko was it's creator.

-just lets ask 2 Logic Questions :

1-how Yahiko himself had the idea of creating akatsuki organization??....could some1 have told him about it?

2-Notice well the above list of akatsuki founders....some1 is missing...a reall villain character is missing....ITS UCHIHA MADARA!!!!
There is not such a thing as logic in these questions. . . by the way, the second one is not even a question. . .

How could have Yahiko got the idea of making an organisation named Akatsuki. . . like any other character that created something. . . the names of the villages, of the countries, of techniques, even other organisations. Madara was not the only one with a brain in his head. . . by the way, Madara has never had anything to do with Akatsuki.


Yes The reall akatsuki founder is UCHIHA MADARA !!!


The Masked man said it that he was the one who spurred yahiko to found akatsuki :

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that means the masked man met yahiko when the latter was young , and when obito was still a child (or maybe obito wasn't even born yet)..


Notice well how the masked man confirms and inssist to konan that he had no reason to lie to her since she was about to die...wich means the masked man was all honest

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THE TOBIDARA REVEAL IS THE TRUE SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEMATIC !!!


the masked man's reall identity is uchiha Madara (and spiral zetsu) controllin obito's body...

-the other Madara sealed himself within obito's body and controlled him its TOBIDARA !!



-sometimes TOBIDARA gives freedom of will to obito and let him act by his free will...BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BADASSES AND CRITICALL MOMENTS...tobidara(Madara) takes full controll of obito's body and acts instead of obito..


-the one who spoke with konan was indeed madara..whereas obito's consiousness was turned off..

- the one who used izanagi against konan was exactly tobidara and not obito !!


-the masked man TOBIDARA (or simply Madara) told konan that he was the one who had the idea of founding akatsuki
and instructed yahiko to form this organization...

-Madara met yahiko when yahiko was a lil kid.....and kishimoto skipped this flashback on purpose...becuz kishimoto will
explain us how Madara met yahiko in the new reveal of tobi's reall identity


Logic of timeline :

1-the reall akatsuki founder is Madara who was old and unable to gather the bijuus thats why he instructed Yahiko to form organization akatsuki----------> 2- Yahiko then told Nagato about the idea of founding an organization to spread peace called akatsuki-----------> 3-black zetsu under instructions from Madara told Obito to keep an eye on Nagato and change the goal of akatsuki from peacefull one to evil one wich is collectiing the Bijuus--------> 4-Black zetsu betrayed Madara and uzed akatsuki for his mother revival plan-------->5- Madara's will make his return but this time in his form TOBI and will slaughter black zetsu and DECLARE HIMSELF TO BE THE FINALL VILLAIN

And all of this is just a fairy tale that you created. Cuz there is no such a fact that Madara was the masked man, ever. . . it was always Obito. The last of this post it's all one big prediction. . . which is very hard to believe in science Obito was never directly controlled by Madara, by switching on and off.

I'm really sorry for saying this, but you didn't thought things through. Simply put, it was Yahiko's organisation, which was taken over by Nagato and stolen by Obito and given a different direction.
 

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yahiko had no plans to collect bijuu. fail.
 

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No, it was Yahiko who created Akatsuki.




Firstly, Obito by saying these words:

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Or more clearly in this scan:

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Obito is talking about him and Zetsu as an "organisation", not Akatsuki. Which, by the way, he is laying about. . . cuz there was no organisation "to lead the one who awakens the Rinnegan", again it was all a lie. Obito, as he was told by Madara, was befriending Nagato, and with him Akatsuki. . . which was already created by Yahiko.





First scan, where Zetsu is talking about gathering all the Beasts and reviving Madara, he is talking what they will do after they takeover Akatsuki.

Second scan, Zetsu is talking about what was pland to do afther Obito and him took over Akatsuki. Here is a better translation of the same scan.

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Plus, with you saying this:



You are saying that it was Yahiko who created it. How and why? Well, the only ones to actually meet Yahiko were those two. . . Madara never did. And the only one who HAD the idea, as you say, was Yahiko.


Exactly, Yahiko was it's creator.


There is not such a thing as logic in these questions. . . by the way, the second one is not even a question. . .

How could have Yahiko got the idea of making an organisation named Akatsuki. . . like any other character that created something. . . the names of the villages, of the countries, of techniques, even other organisations. Madara was not the only one with a brain in his head. . . by the way, Madara has never had anything to do with Akatsuki.




And all of this is just a fairy tale that you created. Cuz there is no such a fact that Madara was the masked man, ever. . . it was always Obito. The last of this post it's all one big prediction. . . which is very hard to believe in science Obito was never directly controlled by Madara, by switching on and off.

I'm really sorry for saying this, but you didn't thought things through. Simply put, it was Yahiko's organisation, which was taken over by Nagato and stolen by Obito and given a different direction.


sorry to say it but your timeline is bull$shhit....Madara was the one who told yahiko to form akatsuki
 

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sorry to say it but your timeline is bull$shhit....Madara was the one who told yahiko to form akatsuki

Hmm. . . hmm . . . insulting my work and defending your theory without any arguments to the ones that I gave you. . . although I was the only one who actually read your theory and responded to it without bashing it or something similar. . . guess it's my fault for ever doing so. . . :erm:
 

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Hmm. . . hmm . . . insulting my work and defending your theory without any arguments to the ones that I gave you. . . although I was the only one who actually read your theory and responded to it without bashing it or something similar. . . guess it's my fault for ever doing so. . . :erm:

we all tried debating him long ago. he shuts us down and ignores facts. hes a troll. he already admitted to making things up.


yahiko met nagato after nagato awoke rinne. the plan was to use nagato yahiko wasnt part of the plan. akatsuki was a bonus.
 
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Hmm. . . hmm . . . insulting my work and defending your theory without any arguments to the ones that I gave you. . . although I was the only one who actually read your theory and responded to it without bashing it or something similar. . . guess it's my fault for ever doing so. . . :erm:

He has even admitted to making up facts to support his theories, the kid is a joke and this is his 50th tobidara thread.
 
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i-------------> .

-the Reall Akatsuki founder shall be the finall villain ...BUT WHO IS IT????


Strangely the Manga introduced many characters, each one claims to have founded akatsuki...but if we follow the logic of timeline we will find out THE REALL AND TRUE FOUDER OF AKATSUKI ORGANIZATION !! :



1-Obito Uchiha :


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-Noo it can't be Obito why? becuz some1 already seem to have instructed Obito to found akatsuki and collect the Bijuus....its BLACK ZETSU !!!




2-Black Zetsu :


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chapter 681 :
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so is it black zetsu???....NOOOOO!!!...becuz some1 already seemed to be pulling the strings befor black zetsu...AKATSUKI WAS FOUNDED BEFOR EVEN OBITO AND BLACK ZETSU HAD ITS IDEA !!...




3-NAGATO :

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But again the manga stated that Nagato wasn't the reall akatsuki founder but it was his friend...YAHIKO !!!!!




YAHIKO :


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Yahiko seem to be the reall Akatsuki founder befor even Nagato,Bobito and Black Zetsu !!....


NOOOO!!...AGAIN ITS N0T YAHIKO!!!

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-just lets ask 2 Logic Questions :

1-how Yahiko himself had the idea of creating akatsuki organization??....could some1 have told him about it?

2-Notice well the above list of akatsuki founders....some1 is missing...a reall villain character is missing....ITS UCHIHA MADARA!!!!





Yes The reall akatsuki founder is UCHIHA MADARA !!!


The Masked man said it that he was the one who spurred yahiko to found akatsuki :

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that means the masked man met yahiko when the latter was young , and when obito was still a child (or maybe obito wasn't even born yet)..


Notice well how the masked man confirms and inssist to konan that he had no reason to lie to her since she was about to die...wich means the masked man was all honest

You must be registered for see images




THE TOBIDARA REVEAL IS THE TRUE SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEMATIC !!!


the masked man's reall identity is uchiha Madara (and spiral zetsu) controllin obito's body...

-the other Madara sealed himself within obito's body and controlled him its TOBIDARA !!



-sometimes TOBIDARA gives freedom of will to obito and let him act by his free will...BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BADASSES AND CRITICALL MOMENTS...tobidara(Madara) takes full controll of obito's body and acts instead of obito..


-the one who spoke with konan was indeed madara..whereas obito's consiousness was turned off..

- the one who used izanagi against konan was exactly tobidara and not obito !!


-the masked man TOBIDARA (or simply Madara) told konan that he was the one who had the idea of founding akatsuki
and instructed yahiko to form this organization...

-Madara met yahiko when yahiko was a lil kid.....and kishimoto skipped this flashback on purpose...becuz kishimoto will
explain us how Madara met yahiko in the new reveal of tobi's reall identity


Logic of timeline :

1-the reall akatsuki founder is Madara who was old and unable to gather the bijuus thats why he instructed Yahiko to form organization akatsuki----------> 2- Yahiko then told Nagato about the idea of founding an organization to spread peace called akatsuki-----------> 3-black zetsu under instructions from Madara told Obito to keep an eye on Nagato and change the goal of akatsuki from peacefull one to evil one wich is collectiing the Bijuus--------> 4-Black zetsu betrayed Madara and uzed akatsuki for his mother revival plan-------->5- Madara's will make his return but this time in his form TOBI and will slaughter black zetsu and DECLARE HIMSELF TO BE THE FINALL VILLAIN








The real founder is tobidara you dummy
 

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Hmm. . . hmm . . . insulting my work and defending your theory without any arguments to the ones that I gave you. . . although I was the only one who actually read your theory and responded to it without bashing it or something similar. . . guess it's my fault for ever doing so. . . :erm:

you are wrong..i didnt insult your work...REREAD WELL...i said SORRY but the timeline you gave me is bull$hhit...i started with "sorry"....and your timeline is indeed bull$hitt (wrong).....
 

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you are wrong..i didnt insult your work...REREAD WELL...i said SORRY but the timeline you gave me is bull$hhit...i started with "sorry"....and your timeline is indeed bull$hitt (wrong).....


What's wrong with you?

You're a complete waste of time. You're making shit up.

Sorry, you have absolutely no facts supporting your theory, thus making you the most useless theorist in these forums.

Sorry, your theory is complete bull$hhit.

Don't reply to my post either because i'm saying SORRY!...and your theory is indeed bull$itt
 

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The Akatsuki's original version was made by Yahiko but Obito and BZ helped Nagato to initiate the terrorist version.
 
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