[Suggestion] NarutoBase Academy for newcomers to complete the Basic-5.

[Lord Orochimaru]

Umm This time its getting serious. First time I got a few supporters and now I have got the spirit.

PEople leave NB for senseis. Chaos, is already going on. Disciplined action will make this go on all right.
I made this thread for a reason. We need something like this.

 

[Wanheda]

[Bold] Already occurring in our RP. No excuse.

[Underline] People are tired of being patient. "Special treatment" you say? Sensei's has personal students.

They rest is understandable.

Well the Sensei can pick who they want to pick, just because they're sensei. But I wouldn't use the word special treatment.

Im against the idea of this, it will actually slowdown the teaching process. And possibly lose more rpers then what it is.
If you can think of a better way to do things then ill be looking forward to it.

 

[Corazon]

[Bold] Already occurring in our RP. No excuse.

People are tired of being patient. "Special treatment" you say? Sensei's has personal students.

They rest is understandable.

You think we weren't patient? I have had senseis that haven't replied to my training in a month or more but I don't bother them with reminders because they may have RL issues, they aren't obligated to us, every1 has their own life. If the Mods or Admin feel they aren't doing a good job then they are stripped of their sensei title

Personal students are just that, they are personally picked by the sensei as some1 he wishes to pass all his knowledge onto, not every1 is a PS so I don't see why you are complaining about that as it is a personal choice by the sensei.

 

[Lord Orochimaru]

By the more thinking of it. Its really a bad idea. Sorry.

~Thread Closed~​

 

[Urda]

Well the Sensei can pick who they want to pick, just because they're sensei. But I wouldn't use the word special treatment.

Im against the idea of this, it will actually slowdown the teaching process. And possibly lose more rpers then what it is.
If you can think of a better way to do things then ill be looking forward to it.

You think we weren't patient? I have had senseis that haven't replied to my training in a month or more but I don't bother them with reminders because they may have RL issues, they aren't obligated to us, every1 has their own life. If the Mods or Admin feel they aren't doing a good job then they are stripped of their sensei title

Personal students are just that, they are personally picked by the sensei as some1 he wishes to pass all his knowledge onto, not every1 is a PS so I don't see why you are complaining about that as it is a personal choice by the sensei.

[BOLD] Hold up a min. Are arguing your opinion or are your stating facts? What you are saying is irrelevant and bias. Being a Sensei is a job and we are money. If they don't take our money, they are out of a job. I don't mean to sound so harsh because I would feel like an a-hole, but that is a fact. They have to accept us.

I emphasis "special treatment" in the sentence because personal students get the full attention of the Sensei than a "regular" student will. It means more of their time.

Time is what I am bringing to your attention. No one has time to wait. They become impatient. Yes, we know, "If you cannot wait, then don't bother RP'ing". Not much positivity there. And not so much hope for the RP either. They find alternates to speed up the process. However, they get hit by obstacles because "we simple like the current system", when we all know its in need of an upgrade.

On the record, I am not complaining. I'm bringing this to your attention.

 

[Lord Orochimaru]

Okay thread opened again. Make me win Confucius.You can do it. Think about all those Innocent RPers who doesn't have senseis. They leave NB for not getting training. Think of all those people whose dream of becoming Hokage gets destroyed. We will have the academy.

Anyone cried. Needed a Naruto background music though.

 

[Wanheda]

[BOLD] Hold up a min. Are arguing your opinion or are your stating facts? What you are saying is irrelevant and bias. Being a Sensei is a job and we are money. If they don't take our money, they are out of a job. I don't mean to sound so harsh because I would feel like an a-hole, but that is a fact. They have to accept us.

I emphasis "special treatment" in the sentence because personal students get the full attention of the Sensei than a "regular" student will. It means more of their time.

Time is what I am bringing to your attention. No one has time to wait. They become impatient. Yes, we know, "If you cannot wait, then don't bother RP'ing". Not much positivity there. And not so much hope for the RP either. They find alternates to speed up the process. However, they get hit by obstacles because "we simple like the current system", when we all know its in need of an upgrade.

On the record, I am not complaining. I'm bringing this to your attention.

I think you are misunderstanding the sensei. Even though some have personal students they still train others.

I think they treat everyone equal, it took me time to get training, I never complained.

 

[Urda]

I think you are misunderstanding the sensei. Even though some have personal students they still train others.

I know that. :| What you are misunderstanding is not understanding the lack of time management. Anway, I was looking through the point of view of the beginners.

It actually pointless to argue. It just that we arguing and not suggesting ideas to fix the problem which is "not a problem at all" someone would say. When there is clearly a problem. :|

 

[The Sach]

I know that. :| What you are misunderstanding is not understanding the lack of time management. Anway, I was looking through the point of view of the beginners.

It actually pointless to argue. It just that we arguing and not suggesting ideas to fix the problem which is "not a problem at all" someone would say. When there is clearly a problem. :|

I completely understand that there is a problem and there can be better solution as well, one of them is separation of senpai system. Almost all senseis are having senpais this days and these senpais are capable of teaching basic five, so involving more people to teach basic fives or creating more senpais by making senpai a separate title and not dependent on sensei is one of the solutions, I recently
thought about.
If a senpai is found capable enough to teach other advanced things except basic five, they will get auto permission by mods to give sensei test.
Increasing number of senseis is another solution, though it is pretty tough one to execute atm.
Talking about the system you suggested, users before me including -Best- pretty much cleared up the possible problems that may ruin the system.

 

[Aomine Daiki]

[Bold] Already occurring in our RP. No excuse.

[Underline] People are tired of being patient. "Special treatment" you say? Sensei's has personal students.

They rest is understandable.

tired of being patient you say? I beginned RPing in 2011. You know when i got my first sensei? december 2013. yeah, i was spamming sensei's for over two years and in those dark ages(lol) there were not that many sensei's as there are now.

Most sensei's have over 25+ students. hell Korra has 50+. They are doing everything they can but you guys have to respect that they do have a life outside of NB as well. They cant just sit infront of a screen all day, teaching everyone who asks.

 

[Urda]

I completely understand that there is a problem and there can be better solution as well, one of them is separation of senpai system. Almost all senseis are having senpais this days and these senpais are capable of teaching basic five, so involving more people to teach basic fives or creating more senpais by making senpai a separate title and not dependent on sensei is one of the solutions, I recently
thought about.
If a senpai is found capable enough to teach other advanced things except basic five, they will get auto permission by mods to give sensei test.
Increasing number of senseis is another solution, though it is pretty tough one to execute atm.
Talking about the system you suggested, users before me including -Best- pretty much cleared up the possible problems that may ruin the system.

I assume "they" would reject that idea. They are Sensei Test being administered to those who have filed applicable and been accepted because they meet the requirements. This is a way to cut in front of the line per say and not honoring the title.

No one knows how many is being tested, but it is still in progress.

Come up with a solution to fix those problems.

tired of being patient you say? I beginned RPing in 2011. You know when i got my first sensei? december 2013. yeah, i was spamming sensei's for over two years and in those dark ages(lol) there were not that many sensei's as there are now.

Most sensei's have over 25+ students. hell Korra has 50+. They are doing everything they can but you guys have to respect that they do have a life outside of NB as well. They cant just sit infront of a screen all day, teaching everyone who asks.

Again, I am not going to be as-hole about this, everyone has that sob story of how they waited. I can tell you that sob story. This is not about you or me or they. This is about bettering a system for everyone to enjoy.

Not my problem. They decided to be Sensei. It is their responsibility of managing their time. They are becoming stress out. They cannot blame the students or Narutobase. Blame their priorities. lol I am as-hole. >.>

 

[Kurisutina]

I assume "they" would reject that idea. They are Sensei Test being administered to those who have filed applicable and been accepted because they meet the requirements. This is a way to cut in front of the line per say and not honoring the title.

No one knows how many is being tested, but it is still in progress.

Come up with a solution to fix those problems.



Again, I am not going to be as-hole about this, everyone has that sob story of how they waited. I can tell you that sob story. This is not about you or me or they. This is about bettering a system for everyone to enjoy.

Not my problem. They decided to be Sensei. It is their responsibility of managing their time. They are becoming stress out. They cannot blame the students or Narutobase. Blame their priorities. lol I am as-hole. >.>

I don't see what the problem is. I honestly don't. It took me like a year to learn all the basic stuff and I had to go through a lot of different sensei and senpai. At the time, there were a lot less people so it was much easier to get the training but it didn't mean it went any faster. Sensei and Senpai will always go the pace they want to and now that they is a significant larger amount of people doing the rp, a lot of the Sensei and Senpai are used to doing a smaller amount of students so they will continue to do it that way. You are forcing them to do something with this and if they don't want to, they won't. If this were in place, you are forcing them to basically read through a larger amount of people's training and have to work on each of them to make them better.

You are trying to add work for people who are used to having their freedom of choosing to do their own amount of work. We'll lost a lot of Sensei and Senpai if this were in place.

 

[The Sach]

I assume "they" would reject that idea. They are Sensei Test being administered to those who have filed applicable and been accepted because they meet the requirements. This is a way to cut in front of the line per say and not honoring the title.

No one knows how many is being tested, but it is still in progress.

Come up with a solution to fix those problems.



Again, I am not going to be as-hole about this, everyone has that sob story of how they waited. I can tell you that sob story. This is not about you or me or they. This is about bettering a system for everyone to enjoy.

Not my problem. They decided to be Sensei. It is their responsibility of managing their time. They are becoming stress out. They cannot blame the students or Narutobase. Blame their priorities. lol I am as-hole. >.>

@bold, and they are doing fine according to them, aren't RPers the ones having problems?
Yes we need solutions, but is this solution ideal or rather feasible? no. Suggest different system then, we will discuss it.
One more thing, RPing requires patience, people need to have it, because we have large number of jutsus in basic 5, tai, nin, ken, gen, so RPer should understand that it isn't going to be fast journey before joining RP.U_U
On top of that you want quality training, you want to learn everything, you want senseis to give personal attention to you, you don't want time zone issues, in short you want everything, which isn't practically possible, as senseis are too human beings and they too have a real life and real life 'should' get priority over NB life/RP game.

 

[Urda]

I don't see what the problem is. I honestly don't. It took me like a year to learn all the basic stuff and I had to go through a lot of different sensei and senpai. At the time, there were a lot less people so it was much easier to get the training but it didn't mean it went any faster. Sensei and Senpai will always go the pace they want to and now that they is a significant larger amount of people doing the rp, a lot of the Sensei and Senpai are used to doing a smaller amount of students so they will continue to do it that way. You are forcing them to do something with this and if they don't want to, they won't. If this were in place, you are forcing them to basically read through a larger amount of people's training and have to work on each of them to make them better.

You are trying to add work for people who are used to having their freedom of choosing to do their own amount of work. We'll lost a lot of Sensei and Senpai if this were in place.

Not my suggesting. Wrong person.

[BOLD] ...But did you just give that sob story. :|

Anway, its does not matter of their work load. We loose must of Sensei/Senpi period due to activity alone.

@bold, and they are doing fine according to them, aren't RPers the ones having problems?
Yes we need solutions, but is this solution ideal or rather feasible? no. Suggest different system then, we will discuss it.
One more thing, RPing requires patience, people need to have it, you want quality training, you want to learn everything, you want senseis to give personal attention to you, you don't want time zone issues, in short you want everything, which isn't practically possible, as senseis are too human beings and they too have a real life and real life 'should' get priority over NB life/RP game.

Its a slow process. People do not have time to invest. Hence, them being impatient.

 

[The Sach]

Not my suggesting. Wrong person.

[BOLD] ...But did you just give that sob story. :|

Anway, its does not matter of their work load. We loose must of Sensei/Senpi period due to activity alone.



Its a slow process. People do not have time to invest. Hence, them being impatient.

Yes it is slow process, then suggest efficient way to speed up, it is difficult to find one but there is always a scope.
Suggest a solution, if you want new system.

 

[Urda]

Yes it is slow process, then suggest efficient way to speed up, it is difficult to find one but there is always a scope.
Suggest a solution, if you want new system.

I mean you all just going to repeat the same carp. You worry too much of others feelings. A business does not care. I business would fire you in a heartbeat. I'm just saying. You have to come at this hard and find a solution. That is what I am doing. I don't want to be drop from the RP because I wasn't good enough. I try to be good. Or look at as a Sensei. You are fired because you are not moving fast enough. That actually happen to someone I know.

Suggesting: I say cut out the "junk" we don't need. Example, We need a certain rank to learn Jutsu. Why? Just teach them everything in the field and they can use the Jutsu when they make rank.

Suggesting 2: If it is Roleplay and we are training, why are we "magically" pulling shit out of ass explaining to our Sensei, who is suppose to teach us, about the field at which we train? Then say don't copy wiki. :| Basically you said....

"I'm going to teach you fractions, so first, what do you know about fractions?"

That is what Sensei's are for. Teach me. You "people" already said the RP System is similar to the Naruto series but with a few alterations. I thought that it what you are going to be teaching me. The alterations. Also, be interactive. That why it gets boring. .

Suggesting 3: The Method Training is really a good idea. I think you should talk to Reborn about it.

Its quick and easy, and "quality" training. Simply as a lecture, study, quiz.

 

[Hori]

I mean you all just going to repeat the same carp. You worry too much of others feelings. A business does not care. I business would fire you in a heartbeat. I'm just saying. You have to come at this hard and find a solution. That is what I am doing. I don't want to be drop from the RP because I wasn't good enough. I try to be good. Or look at as a Sensei. You are fired because you are not moving fast enough. That actually happen to someone I know.

Suggesting: I say cut out the "junk" we don't need. Example, We need a certain rank to learn Jutsu. Why? Just teach them everything in the field and they can use the Jutsu when they make rank.

Suggesting 2: If it is Roleplay and we are training, why are we "magically" pulling shit out of ass explaining to our Sensei, who is suppose to teach us, about the field at which we train? Then say don't copy wiki. :| Basically you said....

"I'm going to teach you fractions, so first, what do you know about fractions?"

That is what Sensei's are for. Teach me. You "people" already said the RP System is similar to the Naruto series but with a few alterations. I thought that it what you are going to be teaching me. The alterations. Also, be interactive. That why it gets boring. .

Suggesting 3: The Method Training is really a good idea. I think you should talk to Reborn about it.

Its quick and easy, and "quality" training. Simply as a lecture, study, quiz.

Wow you raised some great points I'm impressed well some senseis do teach the way you want it. And actually being taught depends on you guys nd getting s3nseis.

 

[Aomine Daiki]

I assume "they" would reject that idea. They are Sensei Test being administered to those who have filed applicable and been accepted because they meet the requirements. This is a way to cut in front of the line per say and not honoring the title.

No one knows how many is being tested, but it is still in progress.

Come up with a solution to fix those problems.



Again, I am not going to be as-hole about this, everyone has that sob story of how they waited. I can tell you that sob story. This is not about you or me or they. This is about bettering a system for everyone to enjoy.

Not my problem. They decided to be Sensei. It is their responsibility of managing their time. They are becoming stress out. They cannot blame the students or Narutobase. Blame their priorities. lol I am as-hole. >.>

If you expect a Sensei to say yes to every student who askes him/her for training, soon each sensei will have 50-60+ students. By having to reply to them all, sooner or later the quality of their training would decrease and all the new RPers would learn is the jutsus. They wont learn how to use them properly and so when they battle they will break the RP rules, causing conflicts and then they would go to the senseis, asking them to judge a fight, making the sensei's even busier. I know this idea seems like it will work, and im sure it will in the begining but in the long term, it wont hold.

And do keep in mind that teaching is not everything sensei's do. They have to judge fights, grade battle tests, manage battletests and train students.

and ofcourse they should have the right to some freetime in NB as well. not just log in to do their duties.

 

[Goetia]

Okay thread opened again. Make me win Confucius.You can do it. Think about all those Innocent RPers who doesn't have senseis. They leave NB for not getting training. Think of all those people whose dream of becoming Hokage gets destroyed. We will have the academy.

Anyone cried. Needed a Naruto background music though.

If a person leaves NB because they were too impatient and couldn't get someone to teach them, that is their problem. They left of their own volition, that is nobody's fault but their own. I find it difficult to find people to teach me, to put it lightly, but I don't really mind. I am satisfied with the amount of training I have right now, even if it is only one sensei teaching me, because I know that more training comes later if I have patience.

My understanding of this thread is that you just want an "academy", because you're too impatient to wait for a free spot on a Sensei's training list.

 

[Urda]

If you expect a Sensei to say yes to every student who askes him/her for training, soon each sensei will have 50-60+ students. By having to reply to them all, sooner or later the quality of their training would decrease and all the new RPers would learn is the jutsus. They wont learn how to use them properly and so when they battle they will break the RP rules, causing conflicts and then they would go to the senseis, asking them to judge a fight, making the sensei's even busier. I know this idea seems like it will work, and im sure it will in the begining but in the long term, it wont hold.

And do keep in mind that teaching is not everything sensei's do. They have to judge fights, grade battle tests, manage battletests and train students.

and ofcourse they should have the right to some freetime in NB as well. not just log in to do their duties.

Well a member said that a Sensei have up to 25 to 50 students anyway. What your saying is what already being done. Therefore, the problems have already arise and taken effect.

Like I said the Time Mangement. Your doing all this, for what? If you know you do not have the time, don't do it. or at least organinze it in the days you can. Example, I do such and such on this day and relax on this day.