[VS] kaguya vs Madara

[Seventh Sama]

What has Kaguya even have that puts her above Madara?

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Viz translation btw.

 

[Made in Heaven]

l0L Byakugan does Kaguya even use that thing?

Yep, a few times.

Yes she teleports Madara to a dimension he teleports back and the cycle repeats until he's out of chakra and then she wins.

Didn't B. Zetsu confirm she can't use it forever? I doubt the fight would go down like that, especially since Kaguya wouldn't be able to grab Madara and pull him into another dimension like she did with Duckbutt Uchiha.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yep, a few times.



Didn't B. Zetsu confirm she can't use it forever? I doubt the fight would go down like that, especially since Kaguya wouldn't be able to grab Madara and pull him into another dimension like she did with Duckbutt Uchiha.

LMao duckbutt Uchiha. Ok im done playing your little game Kaguya wins this.

 

[Dark Artist]

Lol lady byakugan soloed this thread

Respect she owned all these fodder debaters with logic and facts

 

[Haizaki]

Lol Kaguya beats Madara. Doesn't the Manga make this clear?

 

[Zee U]

Kaguya evirates him. Her sole presence managed to severely impress Sasuke (who was pretty confident before her reveal, even againts the 3 eyed Madara) and make Naruto shit in his pants (who was casually fighting and joking with Madara's limbo clones lol). She's portrayed on a whole different level than Madara, wthout a single doubt.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Lol lady byakugan soloed this thread

Respect she owned all these fodder debaters with logic and facts

I agree! Also why people forget about Madara's Rikudou SM sensing and his reflexes? Sasuke doesn't have this power and that's why Kaguya was able to grab him! But this didn't happen with Naruto who has this power! And I will say something again... In a fight with thow extremely powerful characters which have powerful chakra, is not only thatt makes the winner! Sure Kaguya has more chakra but is she a fighter, she uses her brain and not mention that her dimension jutsu which she uses all the time take A LOT of chakra! Sure she has a lot but Madara has also quite bit chakra and not mention his techs doesn;t cost as much as Kaguya's!

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

The manga didn't make anything clear friend Evani! Only that she has more chakra! And so what? If her dimension justsu are so chakra taxing she is going to need it... She may have more chakra but she has no strategies at all... We have seen her performance against Naruto and Sasuke and its dissapointing up until now...

 

[Made in Heaven]

The only thing that Kaguya has above Madara is chakra.... and we all know that doesn't factor in for much

 

[Tarinth]

Well... the manga did say that no ninjutsu or senjutsu works on her, and same thing for Madara. So it
pretty much comes down to melee combat between the two. The Rinnegan won't help with ninjutsu restricted.
In a long battle, Kaguya outlasts. Plus, her bone can kill anything I believe, even Madara, while Madara, being
unable to use human path on her, has no way of killing her.

On an off hand note: Tbh, I don't even like Kaguya as a villain. Madara with Kaguya's chakra levels, or even just his old self would've been
much better. And I agree that Kaguya has done nothing that seemed very impressive. But when the manga itself says that Kaguya's better, a reader's just gotta role with it.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Its funny for me to think about this vs thread, When I read all of the post, I laugh deep in my heart when you'll talking about battle experience and the competent of one person to another person.

Large chakra, battle intelligence, never fought before, Byakugan, Rinnegan, Three Rinnegan in one face, and many thing you state here make me laugh.

OK for me there are actually no single Kaguya and single Madara, You'll can't separate them .

Think about it if you'll brought the strongest Madara that is Rikudou three eye Madara. He himself is actually having Kaguya inside him. By having a Kaguya inside him that is Juubi and also Shinju that have a portion of Kaguya will. How possible that Madara want to fought Kaguya that inside himself.

Same also to Kaguya. How she are able to manifest herself outside Madara body, while her body and portion of her will not counting BZ is hold by Madara then come to result Madara gain her power. For Kaguya to fight Madara by herself at fullest, she must get outside of Madara body, but in result that Madara will revert back to only Rinnegan Madara.

Yes you'll can said that battles rules, but still you'll can't just forgot that inside Rikudou Madara body is Kaguya herself (Juubi, part of Shinju). I can't see this fight at fair point of view. OK if you'll still persistent, how about I said part of Kaguya inside Madara can interrupt Madara from inside of him while Madara is fighting the Kaguya. What will happen to Madara in that situation?

It just a person (Madara) that reuse back same power after the first one and add all the power that naruto world offer including the person you'll want him to fight(Kaguya). This Kishi manga is about Reuse power again and again
especially in Juubi jin case.

I think this battle is about pure Kaguya in OP mind without Maddy inside her, like while her inside Maddy. This in ancient Kaguya.

Thanks.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

3 Rinnegan madara was far more impressive than current Kaguya. He didn't even struggle after getting both rinnegan.

Kaguya can't kill madara, however she does leave him stranded in another dimension. Sorta like she did an inferior sasuke, because she was scared of his capabilities.

 

[Ansatsuken]

3 Rinnegan madara was far more impressive than current Kaguya. He didn't even struggle after getting both rinnegan.

Kaguya can't kill madara, however she does leave him stranded in another dimension. Sorta like she did an inferior sasuke, because she was scared of his capabilities.

LOL! You post a same thing like the other some sounded/topic thread.

But you just speculate much here. I able to imagine all theory you have in the mind but still that all just speculation from Madara side and also from Kaguya side.

Thanks.

 

[Dark Artist]

Another proof that kaguya is way weaker .. her plan was to seperate naruto from sasuke because she cant deal with them together

While madara defeated both in the same time with other character he fought as well

 

[Ansatsuken]

Another proof that kaguya is way weaker .. her plan was to srperate naruto from saduke because she cant deal with them together

While madara defeated both in the same time with other character he fought as well

Your reason is to shallow my friend -Dark Artist-. I want to ask you want question here and If you can answer it convincingly, I will agree Madara is stronger.

The Question is:-

Why in time of Naruto & Sasuke fighting with Madara, they wasn't thinking to use the moon and sun seal to sealed Madara. Why they using it when facing Kaguya, why? Because at one point Madara is nearing being sealed but instread of using moon and sun seal, Naruto are using mediocre Shuukaku rasengan sealing technique.

What will happen if Madara know about the dangerous seal that Kaguya afraid off. Is he will run like Kaguya. It already happen, Madara have been running before from battle when very afraid Madara , fly very urgently to get the second Rinnegan. The seal is not like sage tools where you need to trick an opponent to said something to sealed them. The Rikudo hand seal at Naruto and SAsuke just need some touch to sealed someone.

Thanks.

 

[Haizaki]

The manga didn't make anything clear friend Evani! Only that she has more chakra! And so what? If her dimension justsu are so chakra taxing she is going to need it... She may have more chakra but she has no strategies at all... We have seen her performance against Naruto and Sasuke and its dissapointing up until now...

Lol Madara was horrific against them too. I hope you know Obito just gave his life to protect Naruto and Kakashi who was protecting Sasuke. Don't forget she recently decided to kill them meaning she wasn't trying to before. Obviously she's far stronger than Madara which the Manga has made obvious.
Even with the Juubi's power, Hagoromo says Madara is trying to get close to him and his Mother's power

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Anways, it's more than clear Kaguya>Madara.

 

[V h o]

Next people will being giving Madara Kagaya's ash bones.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Lol Madara was horrific against them too. I hope you know Obito just gave his life to protect Naruto and Kakashi who was protecting Sasuke. Don't forget she recently decided to kill them meaning she wasn't trying to before. Obviously she's far stronger than Madara which the Manga has made obvious.
Even with the Juubi's power, Hagoromo says Madara is trying to get close to him and his Mother's power

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Anways, it's more than clear Kaguya>Madara.

HAGOROMO SAID THAT BEFORE MADARA GAINED THE SHINJU , BOTH RINNEGAN , AND THE THIRD EYE.

Damn, shit, hagoromo said that the same time gai was whooping madara's ass.

1 rinnegan madara was close to hagoromo.
2 rinnegan madara w/ shinju was on par or even better than hagoromo
3 rinnegan madara w/ shinju was stronger than hagoromo , and close/on par/equal/stronger than Kaguya

Read the manga

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Next people will being giving Madara Kagaya's ash bones.

He doesn't have that KKG, however, he does have the same 9 tomoe rinnegan as her.

 

[KidGamer65]

HAGOROMO SAID THAT BEFORE MADARA GAINED THE SHINJU , BOTH RINNEGAN , AND THE THIRD EYE.

Damn, shit, hagoromo said that the same time gai was whooping madara's ass.

1 rinnegan madara was close to hagoromo.
2 rinnegan madara w/ shinju was on par or even better than hagoromo
3 rinnegan madara w/ shinju was stronger than hagoromo , and close/on par/equal/stronger than Kaguya

Read the manga

What the hell? One eyed Madara was getting pushed back by two halves of Hagoromo's power, who didn't go anywhere near all out yet you think he's close to Hagoromo's power? lmao, stop this wank.