[VS] kaguya vs Madara

[Seventh Sama]

Sasuke did dimension travel smartass. He just can't do it on his own because he has a 6 tomoe rinnegan. Not a 9 tomoe rinnegan like madara and Kaguya.

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sasuke's s/t jutsu is almost like kaguya's teleportation powers but he can't dimension hop or teleport a bunch of people at once. Anyways whose to say that kaguya's dimension hopping requires chakra above the juubi?.... Anyways sasuke's red rinnegan is inconsistent when it comes to tomoes, sometimes it'll have 3, 6, or 9 tomoes.

First of all we don't know if Sasuke 's eye now is purple or red and it's not the some eye as Kaguya's and Madara's one! And Madara is not dead he was absorbed... Also Kaguya haven't done to surprize at all... Another disadvantage, is that not only her dimension jutsu take a lot chakra but also when she uses the dimension trick so as to grab you, you can avoid/dodge it if you have reflexes like Naruto's or Madara's... Also many forget that it's not only strenght that markw the outcome of a battle but also strategisties and brains! Kaguya has more chakra than Madara but she is no fighter or strategist! When you have so much chakra (and your techs are chakra taxing) and your opponent also have quite a powerful chakra like I said befiore other things and not just power,determine the winner...

But still even if madara had the dimension swamping powers, He wouldn't be spam it like kaguya does since he has much less chakra than her. She can keep teleporting madara into a bunch of dimensions until he runs out of chakra.

 

[Made in Heaven]

then sasuke must be able to dimension travel too, right? Its an assumption and besides we'll never know if madara can dimension hop since he's dead now.
btw neji's byakugan is stated to be stronger than hinatas.

Wrong Lol Both Madara and Kaguya have a red shrarinnegan, while Sasuke has a purple shrinnegan. So there is a diffrence between Madara/Kaguya and Sasuke,. but there is no difference between Madara and Kaguya

lmfao no where is it said Neji's Byakugan is stronger. Both Hinata, by feats, and Tokuma, by hype, have superior Byakugans than Neji

 

[KidGamer65]

So on top of ignoring the manga when they pretty much established Kaguya is above Madara, now people are giving Madara her powers......lol, NB never ceases to amaze me.

 

[Made in Heaven]

So on top of ignoring the manga when they pretty much established Kaguya is above Madara, now people are giving Madara her powers......lol, NB never ceases to amaze me.

Same eyes means Same power, this logic has always been applied to the Byakugan, Sharingan, and Renigan. Why should it be any different to Madara and Kaguya's Red Sha-rinneggan?

 

[slimreaper]

Kaguya vs Madara

I don't read the manga I know of it so who is more stronger

well madara can tell the difference in clones

 

[TRE MERCER]

Same eyes means Same power, this logic has always been applied to the Byakugan, Sharingan, and Renigan. Why should it be any different to Madara and Kaguya's Red Sha-rinneggan?

So every MS can preform Kamui? K,A with your logic that's what your implying.

 

[Made in Heaven]

So every MS can preform Kamui? K,A with your logic that's what your implying.

Every Mangekyo Sharingan has a different design... a different appearance.... Sure, they're all M. Sharingans, but their powers vary due to their designs. Madara and Kaguya have the same eye, even down to the location of the eye [forehead] and colour of the eye [red], while Sasuke's Sha-Rinnegan is neither on the forehead nor is it red, but rather [purple]. There truly is no reason to NOT give Kaguya's feats with her Third eye to Madara.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Wrong Lol Both Madara and Kaguya have a red shrarinnegan, while Sasuke has a purple shrinnegan. So there is a diffrence between Madara/Kaguya and Sasuke,. but there is no difference between Madara and Kaguya

lmfao no where is it said Neji's Byakugan is stronger. Both Hinata, by feats, and Tokuma, by hype, have superior Byakugans than Neji

once again, It's inconsistent. In the wsj kishi colors its red yet in the newest cover sasuke has a purple one. Again, We haven't seen and will never witness what madara can do with it, All we know is it can cast MT. There can be a chakra requirement to use the dimension swapping.

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[Made in Heaven]

once again, It's inconsistent. In the wsj kishi colors its red yet in the newest cover sasuke has a purple one. Again, We haven't seen and will never witness what madara can do with it, All we know is it can cast MT. There can be a chakra requirement to use the dimension swapping.

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Yes, it was red and then was changed to purple, just as Madara's Susano'O was red and then changed to blue. Latest variation counts... and the latest variation of Sasuke's eye is shown as being purple, So I remain right

Kaguya casts MT with her third eye, and Madara did just that using the same eye. It's clear they share the same powers.

That statement by Hiashi was in terms of Neji learning 64 palms/rotation on his own. Neji's eyesight radius in part 1 and part 2 went from 50 M to 800 M while Hinata's eyesight radius in part 1 and part 2 went from 1KM to 10KM. Tokuma's Byakugan was also said to be the best in the clan, so that's two people who have better Byakugan's than Neji. A better Byakugan doesn't mean the Hyuga is more skilled in combat, it just means they have better eyesight

 

[Conspirator.]

Same eyes means Same power, this logic has always been applied to the Byakugan, Sharingan, and Renigan. Why should it be any different to Madara and Kaguya's Red Sha-rinneggan?

Still no evidence that Madara can use Kaguya's moves. Anyway EVEN IF on the off chance he can access her dimensions(which is a gigantic assumption in itself) there's no evidence he can use it anywhere near as well. Kaguya beats him down with little difficulty-manga already stated that Kaguya is stronger.

So on top of ignoring the manga when they pretty much established Kaguya is above Madara, now people are giving Madara her powers......lol, NB never ceases to amaze me.

I have to agree.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Still no evidence that Madara can use Kaguya's moves. Anyway EVEN IF on the off chance he can access her dimensions(which is a gigantic assumption in itself) there's no evidence he can use it anywhere near as well. Kaguya beats him down with little difficulty-manga already stated that Kaguya is stronger.



I have to agree.

How does Byakugan, Dimension hopping, needles, explosions, Bone Pulse, and chakra arms kill Triple-Rinnegan-Juubi-Jin-and-Shinju Madara?

The two are equal since both posses the third eye, both posses the Juubi and Shinju, and both posses all Kekkai Genkai [-Byakugan & Bone Pulse for Madara and -Rennigan for Kaguya]. Yet while she has Byakugan, Madara has the Rennigan.

 

[KidGamer65]

^ Says two are equal, but the manga says otherwise. Smh.

 

[Made in Heaven]

^ Says two are equal, but the manga says otherwise. Smh.

What has Kaguya even have that puts her above Madara?

 

[KidGamer65]

What has Kaguya even have that puts her above Madara?

Don't care. The manga already stated that she was above him.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Don't care. The manga already stated that she was above him.

Well then ....

 

[Memento Mori]

Is this debatable??

 

[TRE MERCER]

Every Mangekyo Sharingan has a different design... a different appearance.... Sure, they're all M. Sharingans, but their powers vary due to their designs. Madara and Kaguya have the same eye, even down to the location of the eye [forehead] and colour of the eye [red], while Sasuke's Sha-Rinnegan is neither on the forehead nor is it red, but rather [purple]. There truly is no reason to NOT give Kaguya's feats with her Third eye to Madara.

Where is the proof that Sasuke eye is purple if im correct when it was shown it was red. Let's say Madara did have Kaguya feats with his eye she would still win do to superior chakra.

 

[Conspirator.]

What has Kaguya even have that puts her above Madara?

Sasuke and Naruto already implied that Kaguya is above Madara. Sure they didn't say it directly, but that's Kishi's way of telling us(the reader's) that Kaguya>>Madara. Besides has it even been proven that Kaguya's dimension shifting is an eye technique? Anyway Kaguya's performance against Naruto/sasuke was far more impressive than Madara's so she wins by feats.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Where is the proof that Sasuke eye is purple if im correct when it was shown it was red.

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Let's say Madara did have Kaguya feats with his eye she would still win do to superior chakra.

Superior chakra? eh... I doubt that would make such a huge difference, considering we've got one of the with Two Rennigans and the other with two measly Byakugans, and as we all know, Byakugan is basically useless offensively without the Gentle fist style.

 

[TRE MERCER]

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Superior chakra? eh... I doubt that would make such a huge difference, considering we've got one of the with Two Rennigans and the other with two measly Byakugans, and as we all know, Byakugan is basically useless offensively without the Gentle fist style.

l0L Byakugan does Kaguya even use that thing? Yes she teleports Madara to a dimension he teleports back and the cycle repeats until he's out of chakra and then she wins. Or she could just one shot him like BZ did in cannon.