Orochimaru should have had Kabuto's role

[griffnat13]

It would have been a better story if he had escaped during itachi vs sasuke with that little white snake that escaped and then got burned by amaterasu. He should have gotten sage mode, started the war with obito, and fought the uchiha in the cave. Thoughts?

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[SyriousNaru]

Naw. Then the hokage wouldn't have been revived.

 

[The Legendary Noob]

Orochimaru would of soloed both of them because I don't think Izanami would work on him.[SUB]

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[Joker]

I hope you know there were three snakes

 

[Lord Naruto San]

Orochimaru would of soloed both of them because I don't think Izanami would work on him.[SUB]

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Yeah Sasuke and Itachi could killed em but that wasnt the point had to capture em nd IIzanami only works on peiple like Kabuto

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Hokage wouldn't have been revived so NO. But I do like the picture

 

[Lord Naruto San]

Hokage wouldn't have been revived so NO. But I do like the picture

Nah he would have summoned the Kages he already knew how since he had the scroll nd ect guess he didnt have a reason to but War Orochimaru woulldve went all out nd turned on Obito

 

[Angelic.]

nice art. but nah. i think kabuto participated in the war bc he wanted sasuke. if oro wanted he could have done it for that but izanami might not work...

 

[poopieface]

I've tried to make this point here before but no one understood. Kabuto was a completely pointless character, everything he did/went through could have been transferred to Orochimaru and it would have given his character more depth. I still don't get why Kishi reduced Oro to a plot device character.

Now he's pretty much the least characterized villain even though he's the first and original villain. Kishi had ages to give him depth, but no, he's just a snakey guy who saw a snake when he was a kid and somehow thought, "hey, maybe I'll learn every jutsu and torture/experiment on live humans!"

 

[griffnat13]

I've tried to make this point here before but no one understood. Kabuto was a completely pointless character, everything he did/went through could have been transferred to Orochimaru and it would have given his character more depth. I still don't get why Kishi reduced Oro to a plot device character.

Now he's pretty much the least characterized villain even though he's the first and original villain. Kishi had ages to give him depth, but no, he's just a snakey guy who saw a snake when he was a kid and somehow thought, "hey, maybe I'll learn every jutsu and torture/experiment on live humans!"

Thank you poopieface!

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Nah he would have summoned the Kages he already knew how since he had the scroll nd ect guess he didnt have a reason to but War Orochimaru woulldve went all out nd turned on Obito

No because u need to sacrifice your own body to open the seal to the death reaper . And orochimaru would have died doing so. Only reason he survived was because there was zetsu in Sasuke that he could use . If that were Yhe case kabuto would have summoned the kages to but he would have to risk his own body in doing so.

 

[poopieface]

Also, because his characterization was sacrificed for Kabuto's, his sudden decision to just be a spectator and even help Konoha is just odd and barely plausible. Whereas if he'd been izanami'd by Itachi (I don't get why people above think that's impossible; in this scenario, he would have gone through the same ANBU identity confusion as Kabuto, and hence would not know his true self), it would have been smoother.

Who cares about HOW the hokages would have come in... when has plot ever stopped Kishi? He would find a way. Maybe Sasuke would have asked Itachi if there was a way to speak to them, and Itachi'd be like,

"Sure come with me, I still have 10 minutes before the jutsu fades. Let me just stab my paper stomach while wearing this mask and oh--Here they are. K bye guys. Oh hey Third. See you later in Hell "

EDIT: or you know, whatever. Plot is like putty to Kishi.

 

[johnny335704]

Oro should not be in Kabuto's role. Because Kabuto is side stick of Oro since the beginning. If Oro comes in his place it is actually damaging Oro's reputation in manga.
Oro has to be remembered as creepy & as master to Kabuto anytime. Remember - Kabuto everytime wished to become equal or surpass Oro.

 

[ministerC4]

I've tried to make this point here before but no one understood. Kabuto was a completely pointless character, everything he did/went through could have been transferred to Orochimaru and it would have given his character more depth. I still don't get why Kishi reduced Oro to a plot device character.

Now he's pretty much the least characterized villain even though he's the first and original villain. Kishi had ages to give him depth, but no, he's just a snakey guy who saw a snake when he was a kid and somehow thought, "hey, maybe I'll learn every jutsu and torture/experiment on live humans!"

lelz someone knows how my brain works.

 

[ministerC4]

Oro should not be in Kabuto's role. Because Kabuto is side stick of Oro since the beginning. If Oro comes in his place it is actually damaging Oro's reputation in manga.
Oro has to be remembered as creepy & as master to Kabuto anytime. Remember - Kabuto everytime wished to become equal or surpass Oro.

The whole thing as two coins make it all seem bland and dull, when it was only Oro and sidekick it still had some spice.
When Oro got revived I was like "meh, still crappy" honestly Kabuto ruined shit, he turned it from evil creepy ass niggu to sobbing lame ass niggu..

 

[pepitoisback]

Also, because his characterization was sacrificed for Kabuto's, his sudden decision to just be a spectator and even help Konoha is just odd and barely plausible. Whereas if he'd been izanami'd by Itachi (I don't get why people above think that's impossible; in this scenario, he would have gone through the same ANBU identity confusion as Kabuto, and hence would not know his true self), it would have been smoother.

Who cares about HOW the hokages would have come in... when has plot ever stopped Kishi? He would find a way. Maybe Sasuke would have asked Itachi if there was a way to speak to them, and Itachi'd be like,

"Sure come with me, I still have 10 minutes before the jutsu fades. Let me just stab my paper stomach while wearing this mask and oh--Here they are. K bye guys. Oh hey Third. See you later in Hell "

EDIT: or you know, whatever. Plot is like putty to Kishi.

^THIS. Orochimaru was a villain that was being hyped since part I, naturally many of us expected him to have much bigger role in part II. For many years before the Ninja War, I expected him to be final villain. It is actually sad that this villain who had the potential to bring the story to a full circle (Orochimaru the first strong villain and the last; also Naruto had to fight him because he is the reason Sasuke left Konohagakure/became corrputed in the first place) ended up being a side character.

Yes, perhaps it could've been much better for the character if he had Kabuto's role.

 

[Trucktub]

I still like both Kabuto and Orochimaru.

 

[poopieface]

I still like both Kabuto and Orochimaru.

Lol I like Kabuto too, if anything because he's well characterized. My point is more of a literary critique than a complaint. He made Kabuto a round, dynamic character and left Oro a flat, static one. Before, his one defining characteristic was the whole "I want to learn all jutsus" thing. Now, he still only has one characteristic which is the whole "to be Sasuke-kun's ***** and maybe take his body later or something, who knows. In the end it's still because I want to learn all jutsus because I'm that one-dimensional."

Now that I think about it, though, Kishi left an opening for him when Sasuke asked him about his real intention behind attacking Konoha, and we never saw his response. So maybe I'm wrong (I hope I am) and maybe there's more to him now. Time will tell, but with the manga reaching its climax with the whole origin story coming together (usually a sign that the end is near in a manga), even if Kishi does give Oro some purpose, it'll be about 300 chapters too late.

EDIT: I shouldn't say "purpose", I meant "depth"

 

[Nifrum]

Orochimaru would have been a much better villain in Kabuto's place, yes, and him being trapped in Izanami could have revealed his backstory that everyone is eager to learn about.

I think the reason why he wasn't used in Kabuto's place is because he still has a more prominent role in the story; if he had fought Itachi and Sasuke in the cave and lost to them, the Hokage may not have been resurrected too.

 

[Floydical]

No, Kabuto stated that Oro was not able to achieve the level of sage mode that he attained. He surpassed Oro.