Hashirama instead of Minato in Kyuubi attack.

[XY iNVeRSe]

Kamui is overrated tbh. All you need is tactics and the speed to do it. Obito isn't coming close to SM Hashi with the sensing and speed feats he has. On top of that Hashi can spam mokuton clones with his bijuu reserves that makes Kamui useless and exposed. Obito is good and all but Hashi is the strongest.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Bad match up for hashi. There's no way he could warp out of kamui like minato did the fight would end there. Mito would've died and so would his son via paper bombs. No one could've handled that better than minato. Maybe tobirama.

 

[Blunt]

Yes, in that situation Hashirama definitely would not have been as capable or equipped as Minato. Minato's abilities definitely catered to the entire situation, especially when Obito took Naruto and so on.

 

[shelke]

My proof is the absence of proof.
Hashirama has shown no impressive analytical feats, I seriously doubt he would come to the conclusion that Obito is only able to maintain intangibility for 5 minutes at a time. Minato himself nearly got warped by Obito, but FTG happened to save him.
Say that Hashirama's clone feint fails and that Obito touches him, the fight is over.
The Kyuubi is a nonfactor, Hashirama pins him down with ease.

These are excellent points, which is why I have always thought that MS adult Obito is fully capable of taking down Hashirama. A 14 year old seems too inexperienced in my view, otherwise, he wouldn't have failed against Minato.

 

[Minator93]

Although Hashirama can manhandle Kurama if he were to be in Minato's situation his baby dies, his wife dies, he ends up in the Kamui world and Konoha loses.

The only ones that can win against that situation are Minato as he did in the manga and Current Naruto.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Bad match up for hashi. There's no way he could warp out of kamui like minato did the fight would end there. Mito would've died and so would his son via paper bombs. No one could've handled that better than minato. Maybe tobirama.

He would sense obito as soon as he warped behind him. Mito maybe would die, maybe His son, but he would win in the end.

 

[frozen5]

hashi's wife would have probaly sealed obito before he could even touch her

 

[Autism]

Holy shit this wank.

If you guys honestly think that a 15yr old obito is taking a prime hashi, full power, no questions asks, you might be dumb. Kurama is dealt with quickly, hashirama is simply too overwhelming and far too fast for 15 year old obito, he retreats with a scratch on either of them.

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[ChocolateVanilla]

Holy shit this wank.

If you guys honestly think that a 15yr old obito is taking a prime hashi, full power, no questions asks, you might be dumb. Kurama is dealt with quickly, hashirama is simply too overwhelming and far too fast for 15 year old obito, he retreats with a scratch on either of them.

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[A v i]

He can easily stop Kyuubi but he would most likely fail against Obito since he has no intel on Kamui.

 

[KidGamer65]

My proof is the absence of proof.
Hashirama has shown no impressive analytical feats, I seriously doubt he would come to the conclusion that Obito is only able to maintain intangibility for 5 minutes at a time. Minato himself nearly got warped by Obito, but FTG happened to save him.

No one ever said he'd come to that conclusion. The rest isn't rocket science. Even the likes of Sakura figured it out. The fact he needs to become tangible while warping, and the fact that he can phase through things is info that can be gained by letting clones fight him.

Obito got him by surprise, mainly because of Minato's position. Even if he got caught like that, Mokuton spikes simply sprout out of his body and attempt to skewer Obito, cancelling his warp. That is assuming he gets caught in the first place.

Say that Hashirama's clone feint fails and that Obito touches him, the fight is over.
The Kyuubi is a nonfactor, Hashirama pins him down with ease.

Why would it fail? Obito can't see through Mokuton clones.

 

[Haizaki]

SMH. Hashi would have ended things with ease.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Hashirama would easily take care of the Kyuubi. But Obito would be the problem. If he can counter Kamui and take Obito out quickly then the village is saved.

 

[enditallsin]

Hashirama could have easily made about ten wood(arguably more) to save his wife and kid, save the people, suppress kurama, and beat obito, since madara is the only one who cane read through hashiramas wood clones is madara.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Obito sneaks up behind him, Hashirama tries to react, realised his attack passes through Obito, Obito grabs him and warps him away. GG konoha.

 

[enditallsin]

Realistically itachi wouldn't have even made it up to the scenario when kurama was firing off the TTB at the village, Because obito and minato had a encounter with each other while kushina was giving birth to naruto, that's the part where itachi would have been defeated, since we all know itachi wouldn't have had a prayer to get him out of the situation so he would have been stuck in all out fight with obito.

 

[Airbear]

Realistically itachi wouldn't have even made it up to the scenario when kurama was firing off the TTB at the village, Because obito and minato had a encounter with each other while kushina was giving birth to naruto, that's the part where itachi would have been defeated, since we all know itachi wouldn't have had a prayer to get him out of the situation so he would have been stuck in all out fight with obito.

Why are we talking about itachi? Really I've watched your posts for a whole now, and I do not know why you hate a fictional character so much.

 

[patskie14]

hey at least give credit to me. =D Nah Kidding,

OT: Hashi looses his son, wife, and village gets destroyed, Although he may cause serious damage to obito, Be he will live, He would kurama to sleep, but he can't do that without destroying the village in the process.

 

[the last shinobi]

You're smart enough to know that you'd get raped by someone who defeated your master.

???? Pain beat j-man whats your point, obito has different a skill set than Madara and he would also have intel on Hashi being that madara was his master. Further more Hashi woulbn't have intel on Obito nor a space time justu that can counter kamui. So again why wouldn't he attack the village, and fighting obito with 9 tails would be much harder than fighting madara with him. The reason why that is because madara fought hashi with the 9tails as one opponent Obito would have made him chose between fighting him or protecting the village he can't teleport between the two. And how does he hit obito please don't say clones

 

[bashkim]

Obito would lose against Hashirama.