Base Madara Vs. SM Naruto

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Which is worse then. Genjutsu alone ends the match, and Madara starts killing off his summons one by one with his gunbai. Naruto will never land a hit nor evade one.

Pretty sure Obito made rods without Rinnegan when he was a kid. So Madara can probably replicate that and bind the summons and Naruto.​
Obito didn't make them. Madara implanted his will into Obito when he was a kid, that's where those rods came from. The Black Rods have never been created by someone who doesn't have the Rinnegan. Base Madara isn't doing that, if this is Base VoTE Madara.
 

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Versta said what needed to be said. Not to mention that Naruto's attacks can be nullified by Madara's arsenal of Katon; adding the implication, Naruto doesn't have defense against Madara's Katon, so he gets roasted.
 

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Versta said what needed to be said. Not to mention that Naruto's attacks can be nullified by Madara's arsenal of Katon; adding the implication, Naruto doesn't have defense against Madara's Katon, so he gets roasted.
KidGamer65 actually changed my mind via VM's... Naruto takes it mid-high difficulty in SM against base Madara.​
 

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KidGamer65 actually changed my mind via VM's... Naruto takes it mid-high difficulty in SM against base Madara.​
So what? I don't care what he thinks. Naruto doesn't counter this . Not when he has no cloak to protect him.
 

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So what? I don't care what he thinks. Naruto doesn't counter this . Not when he has no cloak to protect him.
-Chou Oodama Rasengan can be held in front of him and used as a shield.

-Toads can jump over it.

-Gamaken can protect Naruto with his shield.

He doesn't need a cloak to protect himself.
 

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-Chou Oodama Rasengan can be held in front of him and used as a shield.

-Toads can jump over it.

-Gamaken can protect Naruto with his shield.

He doesn't need a cloak to protect himself.
-Fire is gaseous Rasengan can't be used as a shield, as the rest of the flame goes right pass it. You should of mention this instead[ > ]

-Pretty sure Madara can blow it up more upward

-The flames wide spread enables that useless
 

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-Chou Oodama Rasengan can be held in front of him and used as a shield.

-Toads can jump over it.

-Gamaken can protect Naruto with his shield.

He doesn't need a cloak to protect himself.
1). Katon > Futon, especially with a scale that sizes up to the Juubi.

2). Toads aren't jumping from the AOE of that Katon.

3). No shield is protecting.

He needs a cloak to protect himself.
 

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-Fire is gaseous Rasengan can't be used as a shield, as the rest of the flame goes right pass it. You should of mention this instead[ > ]
Wouldn't it go around the Rasengan and protect anything behind it? Then again it went around the Shinobi, so you have a point here. That scan is also a good counter.

-Pretty sure Madara can blow it up more upward
If he blows it forward and Naruto uses a toad to jump, then he'll have to use it again. Allowing Naruto more time to use a toad to escape.

-The flames wide spread enables that useless
If Naruto hides behind the shield. It wouldn't get behind it, it would go around it and Naruto would be protected. Can't say the same for the rest of the toad's body.


Unless its the same as the Rasengan scenario.
 

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and then there's Madara's Haijingakure. Not only was Naruto thrown back back it, but the heat was intense enough for him to lower his guard. And Naruto was still in SM.
The same Katon that burnt him a little? Lol

1). Katon > Futon, especially with a scale that sizes up to the Juubi.
Rasengan isn't Fuuton.

2). Toads aren't jumping from the AOE of that Katon.
Its only widespread. Its height isn't anything special. So Toads can jump over it.

3). No shield is protecting.
Why?
 

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Madara shits.

All he needs to do is try to summon Kurama out of Naruto, leaving him on his knees in severe pain [ ]. Then he can finish Naruto off in any way he wishes.
 

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genjutsu is doing nothing against a perfect jinchuriki.

Even the far more powerful rinne tensei'd madara who had hashirama cells and some of the rinnegan's powers got his blitz attempt blocked by SM Naruto.
 

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The same Katon that burnt him a little? Lol
as a Sasuke mark, i'm not surprised by this response at all. You totally missed the point of that jutsu is lowering one's defenses and concealing his presence for a counteratk, not to burn. Hence the "gakure" *facepalm*



genjutsu is doing nothing against a perfect jinchuriki.

Even the far more powerful rinne tensei'd madara who had hashirama cells and some of the rinnegan's powers got his blitz attempt blocked by SM Naruto.
are you actually trying to use that as a legit response when Madara blitzed the real SM Naruto, not to mention numerous other ppl before ever reaching Naruto? Madara's victories were hardly dependent on using Sharingan genjutsu. young Padawan.
 

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are you actually trying to use that as a legit response when Madara blitzed the real SM Naruto, not to mention numerous other ppl before ever reaching Naruto? Madara's victories were hardly dependent on using Sharingan genjutsu. young Padawan.
Naruto blocked Madara's hit, how does that = a blitz? Grasshopper, go reread the posts in this thread about how sharingan genjutsu would end naruto.
 

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Naruto blocked Madara's hit, how does that = a blitz? Grasshopper, go reread the posts in this thread about how sharingan genjutsu would end naruto.
first of all, Naruto was put square on his back. How was he supposed to block an atk that he couldn't anticipate? Furthermore, show me the panel where Naruto was seen giving any indication that he blocked it. I know you won't find it, because neither the middle panel on that page or even the one after it says Naruto blocked it. Don't even play yourself like that.

Second of all, the only grasshopper i see here is you because i saw absolutely nothing that says or even implied Madara's primary or even secondary preference of an offense was using Sharingan genjutsu. He was only seen using it all but twice in a fight, and 1 of those occasions was to simply get his point across to Onoki. March yourself on outta here, trying to use such a garbage case like Sharingan genjutsu being that much of a disadvantage when the guy barely ever had use for it in a fight to begin with.
 
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