[Discussion] What if one day people could live forever what will become of god ?

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I'm a religious person but most people who are not say that people only believe in god because
they are scared to die one day. This thing can test their fate in god. Me personally i'm not interested to live forever if i could live till i'm 55 i'm good. What about you would you do this or not ?:)

it's crazy what people can do nowadays they can clone and shit...
I even heard rumors that they almost found away to cure cancer and shit.



OKe i'm bored :|
 

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Post Singularity and people transferring consciousness to a computer would make things quite boring tbh although it would be interesting having people getting computer virus's and having to get software to get rid of it XD.
 

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What's the point in living forever if you're gonna be frozen? Besides, I don't think I want to live to see the future of this planet considering how messed up things are getting.

But let's say we can live forever young(I wanna be forever young...). Well then, if there's a god(s), I don't think he'll mind. He doesn't intervain directly.
 

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People becoming gods would be terrible for humanity.
 

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He'll have much less importance and if we follow the Bible he would kill us all, for example he didn't like when David was starting to see himself as a God
 
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You should stop dreaming.......the world will end if that happens
 

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Post Singularity and people transferring consciousness to a computer would make things quite boring tbh although it would be interesting having people getting computer virus's and having to get software to get rid of it XD.

Lol @ the virus past. But transfers of consciousness and immortality are subjects I'm really interested in.
 

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i don't want to die but i wouldn't put myself in cryo sleep
 
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would b boring meeting same ppl listing to their bs for eternity i mean whts d point in living foreva? and im pretty sure humans goin to kill each other so no such thing as immortal

ppl are not goin forget becoz they need something to believe in put their faith to continue living & god is that hope
 

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An ultimate act of cowardice if you ask me.
 

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Living forever would only equal overpopulation.

Overpopulation leads to conflict over resources, which leads to war, which brings death..

Death is an unavoidable law in the universe along with life.
 

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We will end up with lot of pain and gods will laugh at us :p
 

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I don't see this as a "live forever" type of thing.

I also don't buy the whole "download your mind into a computer" idea. I am fairly sure it is a myth created by computer scientists who do not understand neurology and neuroscientists who do not understand computers (and mistakenly think that our mind is, in the slightest, comparable to the computers we use that, basically, add and subtract exclusively). Our brains have more in common with the old analog comparators and edge-detection circuits than they do with digital anything.

I do think, however, that we will develop the ability to prolong the organic body indefinitely and also develop the ability to augment it with various mechanical and computational assists. Of course - extreme injury, disease, and a lack of nourishment could still cause death - it is just that aging could be suspended indefinitely.

Although I question whether or not the human mind would persist that long. Exactly how the mind forms out of the brain is a bit of a mystery. It is also unknown just how the brain stores information and handles compounds experiences into knowledge. Is it possible that, after a hundred years of experiences - the mind would start to break down? After two hundred? How about three?

Would we reach a point where our past simply fades away? Some of the research into hypnosis and other altered states of mind (to include some brain injuries) indicate that the mind stores a lot of hard information in vivid detail (which runs against some of the research into memory alteration - which suggests the details of memories can be altered by remembering them... although I postulate that the 'hard' memory exists and it is merely the inability to retrieve all of the details that cause us to draft new information under social pressures for detailed/dramatic stories - which is then stored as a more recent memory of how to retell the story which is called in the future).

Anyway...

I think many people who don't really understand spirituality falsely attribute a belief in God to a fear of death.

Most spiritualistic ideas deal with the purpose of life. From a purely materialistic standpoint - we are born, eat, grow, reproduce, and die. Why do we reproduce? So that our kids can reproduce before they die.

It's a relatively silly venture, to be honest.

Which is why most people adopt a spiritual view that there is a purpose to life aside from having *** with hot people and eating.

It's a concept that has been struggled over since humans were able to communicate ideas.

In that sense - God is what gives life purpose - not what gives death consequence. Some views are more utilitarian than others - but all place the world as some creation of deistic powers and our role within it is a direct consequence (if not the direct intent) of those powers.

For some - we are things to be lorded over by deities.

For others - we are a sort of shard or seed of that deity meant to grow.

For yet more - we are soldiers for those deities; heroes of some kind of RPG or pawns of an RTS.

When you actually look at most of the spiritual ideas out there - most of them focus on life and how to view one's place in it. Only portions of them really look at death. While death is a very mysterious and even haunting process for many - it is really only a minor focus of spiritual ideas.

All of which would still be quite applicable in a world where people could live indefinitely (barring catastrophic injury, disease, or famine).
 

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Well hopefully we can build more homes to fit people, and hopefully save the environment. Although I would like to live forever. I wonder would people be forced to go off world to live.
 

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Well hopefully we can build more homes to fit people, and hopefully save the environment. Although I would like to live forever. I wonder would people be forced to go off world to live.

I actually suspect, long-term, the human species will fork. There will be those who are genetically predisposed toward individual freedom and individual empowerment. Those people will invariably expand into the cosmos and continue developing various nanotechnologies and industrial pursuits (refinements to 3d printing, etc).

The others will become like naked mole rats - one of the only 'hive' like mammals. They will largely reduce back to life as it was around the 1700s as rival hives destroy each other's manufacturing capability and concerns about sustainability prevent them from developing industry. After all - machines 'take jobs' - and the hive much prefers to have tasks for the members to do rather than to have some individuals producing great amounts and other individuals seeking to find something to do.

Those seeking the individual empowerment will naturally expand into the cosmos where technology and the raw expanse of space will make competition over territory relatively minor. Most wars, if any, would be fought over unique oddities and life forms to research (no doubt what is detailed in many of the earliest human drawings/writings as other advanced entities fought over the right to research and/or modify our species - at their level of technology, typical material resources are not difficult to come by and the risk of war far outweighs the gains that could be made by just about any material resource - just go someplace else where there isn't someone who will bloody your nose).

Perhaps individuals within the hive will eventually lapse back into the track of individual pursuit in a way that allows them to survive destruction by the hive - then it will be interesting when the 'super advanced species of myths' are, in fact, a genetic lineage of humans that simply rejected the call of the hive.
 

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If humans gained access to immortality, the human population would see a surge seeing how people would not die of natural deaths. If possible, countries and governments would try to regulate the access to immortality whether its technology or medication you talk to live forever. I'm guessing only the human elites will have access too it. But thats none of my business.

As for the whole god thing, I rather not talk about it.
 

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I actually suspect, long-term, the human species will fork. There will be those who are genetically predisposed toward individual freedom and individual empowerment. Those people will invariably expand into the cosmos and continue developing various nanotechnologies and industrial pursuits (refinements to 3d printing, etc).

The others will become like naked mole rats - one of the only 'hive' like mammals. They will largely reduce back to life as it was around the 1700s as rival hives destroy each other's manufacturing capability and concerns about sustainability prevent them from developing industry. After all - machines 'take jobs' - and the hive much prefers to have tasks for the members to do rather than to have some individuals producing great amounts and other individuals seeking to find something to do.

Those seeking the individual empowerment will naturally expand into the cosmos where technology and the raw expanse of space will make competition over territory relatively minor. Most wars, if any, would be fought over unique oddities and life forms to research (no doubt what is detailed in many of the earliest human drawings/writings as other advanced entities fought over the right to research and/or modify our species - at their level of technology, typical material resources are not difficult to come by and the risk of war far outweighs the gains that could be made by just about any material resource - just go someplace else where there isn't someone who will bloody your nose).

Perhaps individuals within the hive will eventually lapse back into the track of individual pursuit in a way that allows them to survive destruction by the hive - then it will be interesting when the 'super advanced species of myths' are, in fact, a genetic lineage of humans that simply rejected the call of the hive.

Hmm interesting ideology there. I doubt if people will go to the extremes that your saying, referring to the "hive" people. I understand some people won't take to expansion or figure it's a waste, however I doubt it would lead to a devolved world-possibly a less advanced world. If times have advanced to where space travel/option of living on other planets was possible then surely the planet/populous in general would've grown. Maybe it is my optimism or faith in people, but I don't see people being so monotonous as that. I do agree however that humanity would advance to where living on other plants is possible and that some would refuse/resist to change.
 

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Naw, no thx. I would like to die someday.

And god was never real.
 
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