Orochimaru should have stayed with Akautski

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We all know that immortality was one of Orochimaru's goals. Well, I thought about something.

If Orochimaru had just helped revive the juubi and then double crossed Obito at the last second by becoming the juubi jinchuuriki himself, then Orochimaru would have obtained massive power and a much better form of immortality than he has. Think about it:

As the juubi jinchuuriki, Madara has survived night elephant, night Guy (which obliterated his whole right side), lava style rasenshuriken ( which cut down the God tree) and being cut in half! Madara even said himself, "I am immortal".

Furthermore, Orochimaru claims to want to get all the techniques in the world. As the juubi jinchuuriki, chakara would be no issue whatsoever and he would pretty much gain access to all the elements and senjutsu (as shown by Madara showcasing storm release). Therefore, he would be able to get jutsu after jutsu after jutsu! He wouldn't even have to even worry about having the right body to control snake sage mode because he wouldn't need that mode. The juubi automatically gives you senjutsu of the six paths!

He wouldn't even need Sasuke's body anymore, but if he still insisted on getting it, then he could have done so with ease!

As the juubi jinchuuriki, Orochimaru would have all of these benefits. They would be way much better than what he has now. I mean just look at his current arsenal:

His immortality is horrible because his bodies expire every few years and he has to keep switching bodies, which may mean that he loses certain powers when he switches.

Whenever a body is about to expire, he goes into a sickly state and needs medical attention from people like Kabuto. If no body is around him when his body is about to expire then he is screwed over!

Not all of his bodies can handle the senjutsu that he desires.

Changing bodies doesn't grant you limitless chakara.

As for his jutsu arsenal:

He has edo tensei
That one little wind style jutsu
Sealing jutsus
Mud clones
Snakes with swords
Poison

That is about it. He didn't even really fight alongside Hashirama and Tobirama against Hiruzen in part 1. If he really has all of these great jutsus that he claims to have, then he should have been able to use them along with the edo tensei against Hiruzen and he shouldn't have been crippled for 3 years. Clearly his arsenal is all hype as things stand.

If he was the juubi jin, he would have had all of the immortality and power that he wanted. He could easily crush Konoha, defeat Sasuke, defeat Itachi and get the totsuka sword, etc...

Heck, even while he was waiting to capture the bijuus, if he was still in Akautski he could have taken up Sasori's offer for becoming a puppet, looked into Hidan's method of immortality or even taken to Kakazu's method.

In short, it would have been much more beneficial for Orochimaru if he stayed with Akautski.

What do you think?
 

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Like hell Oro was beating Obito OR Madara at the point of the war.
 

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What use would oro be .... The only reason I even notice to give him any respect is because he helped revive tsunade other than that no care in the world
 

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Like hell Oro was beating Obito OR Madara at the point of the war.

True. I am just saying that he should have just absorbed the juubi the moment it was summoned or something like that.
 

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He left because itachi beat his ass
 

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What use would oro be .... The only reason I even notice to give him any respect is because he helped revive tsunade other than that no care in the world

I don't care too much for him either. I am just saying that he could have better succeeded with his goals if he stayed with the group.

I agree though. Obito, Madara and Kaguya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orochimaru in terms of power, personality and as villains and characters in general.
 

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Orochimaru is pathetic without edo's he wouldn't even be on Hebi Sasuke level.
 

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True. I am just saying that he should have just absorbed the juubi the moment it was summoned or something like that.

He probably had no clue about it anyway. I think that the only one with real information on it was Obito. Everybody else was just told some "your dreams wil come true" BS. I mean, look at Nagato.
 

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I have a feeling that Oro always had a feeling what the Akatsuki's true objective was. He was well aware of Obito's dream interfering with his own. I think he planned to achieve the Rinnegan at least and from then on, planned on making his dream to learn every jutsu and become immortal realized. I doubt he planned on taking over the Juubi because that might be too much for him but he might have had plans involving the Juubi too.
 

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well he was too busy working torwards his own goals that he just couldn't wait for the akatsuki. Beside, it doesn't look like he has that much faith in them anyway
 

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Orochimaru is pathetic without edo's he wouldn't even be on Hebi Sasuke level.

Agreed

He probably had no clue about it anyway. I think that the only one with real information on it was Obito. Everybody else was just told some "your dreams wil come true" BS. I mean, look at Nagato.

I think Nagato and Konan actually knew about it as Obito said to Konan "You and Nagato both agreed to my tsuki no mei". Oro found out about it eventually, but I don't know when. Kisame knew about it too I think.
 

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I don't care too much for him either. I am just saying that he could have better succeeded with his goals if he stayed with the group.

I agree though. Obito, Madara and Kaguya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orochimaru in terms of power, personality and as villains and characters in general.
Almost sigged. Power yeah, but personality and characters in general? That's just stupid. Buuut whatever floats your boat.
Orochimaru is pathetic without edo's he wouldn't even be on Hebi Sasuke level.

>wouldn't be on Hebi Sasuke level
>Hebi Sasuke admitted inferiority
Cool beans. And btw, that's saying Sasuke is pathetic without Sharingan.
 
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Agreed



I think Nagato and Konan actually knew about it as Obito said to Konan "You and Nagato both agreed to my tsuki no mei". Oro found out about it eventually, but I don't know when. Kisame knew about it too I think.

I guess i need to check up my manga phax :shy:
 

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Orochimaru made things awkward with Itachi, so Oro left.
 

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Almost sigged. Power yeah, but personality and characters in general? That's just stupid. Buuut whatever floats your boat.


>wouldn't be on Hebi Sasuke level
>Hebi Sasuke admitted inferiority
Cool beans.

Go ahead and sig it if you want. I am fine with the base knowing that I value the epicness of Obito, Madara and Kaguya.

Yes in terms of personality and characters in general. Just look at Madara. He succeeded in casting the infinite tsukuyomi (which was epic and something that I dream about doing) and he gave the most epic speeches!

Success for the win!!!!!
 

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Go ahead and sig it if you want. I am fine with the base knowing that I value the epicness of Obito, Madara and Kaguya.

Yes in terms of personality and characters in general. Just look at Madara. He succeeded in casting the infinite tsukuyomi (which was epic and something that I dream about doing) and he gave the most epic speeches!

Success for the win!!!!!

Madara's power is cool, yes. But... how does that make a character? Madara's character is just a guy who has the exact same goal from the last main antagonist, speeches that are taken straight from Aizen and Orochimaru's book, and Uchiha arrogance all in one. Power is the only cool thing about him. It's all stale and over done.
And what of Kaguya? What makes her better than Orochimaru as a character?
 

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Almost sigged. Power yeah, but personality and characters in general? That's just stupid. Buuut whatever floats your boat.


>wouldn't be on Hebi Sasuke level
>Hebi Sasuke admitted inferiority
Cool beans. And btw, that's saying Sasuke is pathetic without Sharingan.
Pain admitted inferiority to Jiraiya. Jiraiya still lacks anything that can destroy CT. When feats says otherwise words mean nothing.
 

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Pain admitted inferiority to Jiraiya. Jiraiya still lacks anything that can destroy CT. When feats says otherwise words mean nothing.

You call yourself a debater, yet when someone admits inferiority, they're inferior. Pain said if Jirayia knew his secret, he would win, point blank.
 
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