Itachi's Predicament (For those who believe that what he did was wrong)

[slaton02]

Blood > water

 

[Trúth]

Really? Can you please elaborate member of the Itachibase?

We don't know what the terms of the Uchiha were and it was Danzo of all people who thought it'd be best to order a massacre while Hiruzen was still negotiating. Danzo and Hiruzen's difference of perspective is what lead to the slaughter. Itachi chose Danzo over Hiruzen.

If we go by the filler episode, Shisui was supposed to use Kamui on Fugaku, but before he could do that he was ambushed by Danzo.

So until we know all of the details of what happened, my opinion is that Itachi did something that is neither right or wrong, but something that is still atrocious.

We already know that negotiation with the Uchiha had failed. Time ran out, and Itachi was forced to act.

 

[Lightbringer]

Kamui GG.

oops. Hey I'm only human

 

[Mikeyofthesharingan]

Really? Can you please elaborate member of the Itachibase?

We don't know what the terms of the Uchiha were and it was Danzo of all people who thought it'd be best to order a massacre while Hiruzen was still negotiating. Danzo and Hiruzen's difference of perspective is what lead to the slaughter. Itachi chose Danzo over Hiruzen.

If we go by the filler episode, Shisui was supposed to use Kamui on Fugaku, but before he could do that he was ambushed by Danzo.

So until we know all of the details of what happened, my opinion is that Itachi did something that is neither right or wrong, but something that is still atrocious.

Hiruzen was trying to negotiate. He had itachi buy him time to continue negotiations with the uchiha clan but hiruzen agreed that if a pact couldnt be met that was the only plan of action left that would save the village. Itachi knew this and knew that his clan wasnt going to budge.

Whether it was danzos idea or not hiruzen was still hokage and had the final say, he clearly approved of the decision otherwise danzo wouldnt have remained an elder on the counsil

 

[Trúth]

Hiruzen was trying to negotiate. He had itachi buy him time to continue negotiations with the uchiha clan but hiruzen agreed that if a pact couldnt be met that was the only plan of action left that would save the village. Itachi knew this and knew that his clan wasnt going to budge.

Whether it was danzos idea or not hiruzen was still hokage and had the final say, he clearly approved of the decision otherwise danzo wouldnt have remained an elder on the counsil

nicely explained but probably wasted effort this idiot is just as bad as USSJ when it comes to Itachi.

 

[Lightbringer]

We already know that negotiation with the Uchiha had failed. Time ran out, and Itachi was forced to act.

The negotiation failed because of Danzo and Itachi sided with him. What could the Uchiha possibly want that the village would not give? A seat in the council? Even that should be reasonable.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Blood > water

I'm sorry that I failed to make you think about it from a different perspective

It's an interesting concept though. You know, we are the only beings that cling to family so strongly (I guess some insects do, but that's different). For the most part, animals raise their children until they can survive on their own, and then they never see each other again.

 

[Trúth]

The negotiation failed because of Danzo and Itachi sided with him. What could the Uchiha possibly want that the village would not give? A seat in the council? Even that should be reasonable.

bold is fanfic. You're just making up reasons you have no idea why it failed. What we DO know is it failed. And Itachi was forced to kill his clan and family.

 

[Lightbringer]

bold is fanfic. You're just making up reasons you have no idea why it failed. What we DO know is it failed. And Itachi was forced to kill his clan and family.

Nope, I'm pretty sure it's not.

Shisui could have ended it with his power

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[Tennis Robot]

Oh yeah another thing that crossed my mind is the possibility that Danzo used KA on Itachi. I don't really think that he did though, it was just an interesting idea.

 

[Trúth]

Nope, I'm pretty sure it's not.

Shisui could have ended it with his power

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You said it was Itachi's fault. That is fanfic. We already knew Danzo was at fault.

 

[Lightbringer]

You said it was Itachi's fault. That is fanfic. We already knew Danzo was at fault.

I said it was Danzo's fault and Itachi just bought into it. I don't consider Itachi a hero if that's what the point of this thread is. He had Shisui's other eye and the possibility remained to change someone's mind with its use.

What he did was morally gray, and those saying he did the right thing are wrong.

 

[Trúth]

I said it was Danzo's fault and Itachi just bought into it. I don't consider Itachi a hero if that's what the point of this thread is. He had Shisui's other eye and the possibility remained to change someone's mind with its use.

What he did was morally gray, and those saying he did the right thing are wrong.

@bold sig worthy right there. Your saying he wanted to kill his family his clan his lover and leave his his brother with no family? @underline Obviously he must have thought about shisui's eye and for whatever reason it wasn't a viable option.

 

[Lightbringer]

@bold sig worthy right there. Your saying he wanted to kill his family his clan his lover and leave his his brother with no family? @underline Obviously he must have thought about shisui's eye and for whatever reason it wasn't a viable option.

Or he just didn't think it through enough. He only had a night to decide and Danzo's argument was convincing. Why did the children have to die? They didn't have a part in the revolt nor even knew what was going on.

Doesn't seem like they had to die yet Itachi thought it was best. Is that sound reasoning to you?

 

[Trúth]

Or he just didn't think it through enough. He only had a night to decide and Danzo's argument was convincing. Why did the children have to die? They didn't have a part in the revolt nor even knew what was going on.

Doesn't seem like they had to die yet Itachi thought it was best. Is that sound reasoning to you?

Excuse me? Your saying Itachi didn't think through killing his family? Even someone at Hidans level of stupidity would think that through. I always find it funny how people assume there were other Uchiha children. Name a time we've seen any children. Yeah we haven't because Sasuke was the only one. How is this possible? It was already stated that the Uchiha had grown much smaller in recent years.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Lol, everyone knew what he did was stop the ninja war(or occurring).

 

[~Ethereal~]

Itachi's methods were questionable, but he had no other way to stop it.

 

[Lightbringer]

Excuse me? Your saying Itachi didn't think through killing his family? Even someone at Hidans level of stupidity would think that through. I always find it funny how people assume there were other Uchiha children. Name a time we've seen any children. Yeah we haven't because Sasuke was the only one. How is this possible? It was already stated that the Uchiha had grown much smaller in recent years.

lol so you think Sasuke was the only child in the village? Ok, well I'm seeing the bias. Now that is Sig-worthy.

Well since this argument is going nowhere, I'll leave you to your opinion.

 

[WalksInShadows]

there would be little disputing it if Itachi only murdered the ppl who were in on the coup. Imo, the biggest thing that takes away from the "he had no choice" argument is that he murdered the muggles as well, and a number of them were kids. What threat did they pose exactly?

 

[Trúth]

lol so you think Sasuke was the only child in the village? Ok. Now I'm seeing the bias. Well since this argument is going nowhere, I'll leave you to your opinion.

In other words, "I've been soloed but it'll hurt my pride to admit it."