[Theory] The Hobo Hobi no Mi

[Skylar Knight]

The Hobi Hobi no Mi

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"The Hobi Hobi no Mi is a Paramecia-class Devil Fruit that allows the user to transform living people into toys, and erase memories of their existence from others." - One Piece Wikia

Despite the very nice explanation above, I do have a question about this peculiar devil fruit. Does Sugar remember the people who she turns into toys? Has it ever been stated if she does? To me, it's a very important question to be asked. Why, you ask? Because Sugar will most likely be another person when she wakes up. All the people she's turned into toys will now be changed back to humans, and the memory of their very existence will return to her. Family, friends, people she once knew, will basically come back to life, so to speak.

Anyway, my point is that this could be a turning point in the plot. What if Doflamingo controlled Sugar to turn all of her family, friends, or whatever the case may be, into toys so that she would join his plan to take over Dressrosa? Will Sugar wake up with hatred towards Doflamingo? Who knows. However, this fits my previous theory very well, one I made in the start of spring. I'll put a link at the bottom of my post, if anyone's interested. It basically explains the possibility of Sugar turning the whole Donquixote family into toys, at the end of the arc. They won't be killed, they won't be defeated, but they will be forgotten by the world. In my opinion, a perfect end to this story.

So what do you think? Any thoughts?

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[My Username]

Nah
All the Family members are very loyal to DD

 

[Skylar Knight]

Nah
All the Family members are very loyal to DD

"No one knows you even exist", is basically what Trebol told Sugar. I can only guess, but I think she's more of a tool than a member of the crew. Plus, when the Tontattas held their emotional speech about Dressrosa's pain and suffering, Sugar seemed off. It looked like she regret her actions. But again, who knows. And again, she may go through a change. Doesn't matter if she truly was loyal to the moment she fell unconscious, that could all change in the blink of an eye.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

I think she does forget.

And I remember that theory, I agree with it >___O

 

[Skylar Knight]

I think she does forget.

And I remember that theory, I agree with it >___O

To me, it seems more plausable. Everyone is now rushing to defeat Doflamingo with their own two hands, so yeah, it'd be more of a twist if someone like Sugar ends up doing it in the end. Well, that's just my humble opinion of it, I guess.

 

[Red Swag]

the hobo what?

 

[Skylar Knight]

the hobo what?

Typing mistake. Shame to famiry.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

To me, it seems more plausable. Everyone is now rushing to defeat Doflamingo with their own two hands, so yeah, it'd be more of a twist if someone like Sugar ends up doing it in the end. Well, that's just my humble opinion of it, I guess.

Imo it would just be a nice way to wrap up this arc without too much trouble.
Plus helps the cause that Sugar will join the Straw Hats :T_T: <3 <3
(Yes~, I know it's highly unlikely U____U )

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Yes Sugsr herself even states this. I believe it is Cavendish, but when transforming him she says,," not even I will remember who you are."

Also, if you notice, there are moments when Sugar almost seemingly regrets the things she's doing (moments where she has sad or even blank stares).

Imo it would just be a nice way to wrap up this arc without too much trouble.
Plus helps the cause that Sugar will join the Straw Hats :T_T: <3 <3
(Yes~, I know it's highly unlikely U____U )

Considering just how much like Alabasta the arc currently is, honestly is one if my best guesses.

Between Kanjuro or Sugar....hard to say.

 

[Skylar Knight]

Imo it would just be a nice way to wrap up this arc without too much trouble.
Plus helps the cause that Sugar will join the Straw Hats :T_T: <3 <3
(Yes~, I know it's highly unlikely U____U )

I disagree, I find it more likely that Sugar will join than any other character we've met in this arc. Just ask yourself, what will happen to her after the Donquixote family falls? Unless things go all tragic and she turns herself into a toy, if possible, then I believe she has a fair chance of joining the crew.

Viola, Rebecca, and Kyros, all have their family and country to think about. Bellamy, the character who's been everyone's boxing bag lately, just doesn't strike me as the next one to join the crew. It's more than likely that he'll be working under Bartolomeo by the end of the series. Speaking of Bartolomeo; despite his constant fanboying, I doubt he'll be a Strawhat. He has his own role as a captain to think about. Then there's Cavendish, a guy who'd never work under anyone else.

My point is that I don't think the chances of Sugar joining is as microscopic as many think. I doubt it's a coincidence that Sugar seems to regret her actions, or at the very least seem to be struggling with her decisions. Of course, this doesn't mean that she'll end up joining the crew, but it's certainly not impossible that she will. Plus I want her to join.

Yes Sugsr herself even states this. I believe it is Cavendish, but when transforming him she says,," not even I will remember who you are."

Also, if you notice, there are moments when Sugar almost seemingly regrets the things she's doing (moments where she has sad or even blank stares).



Considering just how much like Alabasta the arc currently is, honestly is one if my best guesses.

Between Kanjuro or Sugar....hard to say.

I have no doubt that Sugar will go through some change, or have gone through some kind of change. Most characters would, after all, if maybe half of their memories returned to them over the night. I'm excited to see what kind of development her character will have during this arc. If she truly is a good person deep inside, then Luffy will know. Luffy always knows.

We've barely seen anything from Kanjuro, so I really don't know what to say about him. Right now, I wouldn't want him in the crew, but that could quickly change.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Considering just how much like Alabasta the arc currently is, honestly is one if my best guesses.

Between Kanjuro or Sugar....hard to say.

Wow O.O had no idea Sugar had so much support :T_T:

I disagree, I find it more likely that Sugar will join than any other character we've met in this arc. Just ask yourself, what will happen to her after the Donquixote family falls? Unless things go all tragic and she turns herself into a toy, if possible, then I believe she has a fair chance of joining the crew.

Viola, Rebecca, and Kyros, all have their family and country to think about. Bellamy, the character who's been everyone's boxing bag lately, just doesn't strike me as the next one to join the crew. It's more than likely that he'll be working under Bartolomeo by the end of the series. Speaking of Bartolomeo; despite his constant fanboying, I doubt he'll be a Strawhat. He has his own role as a captain to think about. Then there's Cavendish, a guy who'd never work under anyone else.

My point is that I don't think the chances of Sugar joining is as microscopic as many think. I doubt it's a coincidence that Sugar seems to regret her actions, or at the very least seem to be struggling with her decisions. Of course, this doesn't mean that she'll end up joining the crew, but it's certainly not impossible that she will. Plus I want her to join.

Yes :T_T:
Although, these toys we last saw confronting Luffy do seem to be something of her doing U___U

 

[Zeta42]

Interesting idea about Sugar having turned her loved ones into toys and waking up with hatred for Doflamingo. However, there's a good reason why Doflamingo must not become a toy himself. People of Dressrosa have finally realized that King Riku is innocent of the massacre from 10 years ago, and that Doflamingo was the true culprit. Riku won't be able to reclaim the throne if the real culprit disappears from everyone's memory.

P.S. lol at Hobo Hobo no Mi

 

[Skylar Knight]

Yes :T_T:
Although, these toys we last saw confronting Luffy do seem to be something of her doing U___U

Who knows, maybe Sugar has a grudge against the Strawhats now, or specifically Usopp, for making her memories return. If she truly is as old as Brook, or maybe even older, just imagine what kind of things she's gone through. Her ability can be compared to a washing machine. If your plate is dirty, then just put it in the machine and clean it. If the user of the Hobi Hobi no Mi has gone thorugh something awful, they can just erase it away. Clean away the dirt in their life. Let's say, for example, if her own mother is stabbed right in front of her eyes. What would Sugar do? Turn her into a toy, to forget it all.

So, again, if her past really is this awful and horrible one, then she'd avoid it at any cost. And now she can't. It has returned, basically. It'd be understandable if she was in complete rage now.

Interesting idea about Sugar having turned her loved ones into toys and waking up with hatred for Doflamingo. However, there's a good reason why Doflamingo must not become a toy himself. People of Dressrosa have finally realized that King Riku is innocent of the massacre from 10 years ago, and that Doflamingo was the true culprit. Riku won't be able to reclaim the throne if the real culprit disappears from everyone's memory.

P.S. lol at Hobo Hobo no Mi

That doesn't necessarily mean they'll forget about king Riku's innocence. Even if Doflamingo disappears from everyone's memories, everything about king Riku will be preserved and remembered, or so I believe. They will remember that there's a culprit, but not the identity of the culprit. Here's an example of it. The fighters in the colusseum had been erased from everyone's mind after turning into toys, obiously. However, Vice-Admiral Bastille still remember he was there to capture someone, but not who. He hadn't forgotten the orders he had gotten, and he hadn't forgotten there had been people fighting in the colusseum.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Who knows, maybe Sugar now has a grudge against the Strawhats, or specifically Usopp, for making her memories return. If she truly is as old as Brook, or maybe even older, just imagine what kind of things she's gone through. Her ability can be compared to a washing machine. If your plate is dirty, then just put it in the machine and clean it. If Sugar's life has been dealt a blow to by a certain character, she can just delete this very character from her life. Let's say, for example, if her own mother is stabbed right in front of her eyes, Sugar can just turn her into a toy to erase it all. What I'm saying is that this character's potential is on the same scale as Robin's had in the beginning of her introduction.

So, again, if her past really is this awful and horrible one, then she'd avoid it at any cost. And now she can't. It has returned, basically. It'd be understandable if she was in complete rage now.

I'm not disagreeing, I really want Sugar to join ;_____;

 

[Skylar Knight]

I'm not disagreeing, I really want Sugar to join ;_____;

I want her to have a breakdown. She'll rage, scream, cry, and just fall on her knees while cursing the Strawhats. Luffy, or maybe someone else from the crew, will try to comfort her in one way or another. Or maybe Luffy will fight her and hit her so hard that she'll, you know, get a concussion and forget everything up till now. That's one way for her to forgive them, I guess. Lol

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Wow O.O had no idea Sugar had so much support :T_T:



Yes :T_T:
Although, these toys we last saw confronting Luffy do seem to be something of her doing U___U

I don't know how much I want her go join, but think about it.


First Island in the Grand Line: Whiskey Peak

First Island in the New World: Punk Hazard

Whiskey Peak run by secret syndicate Baroque Works

Punk Hazard Run by secret underworld Broker Joker


Baroque Works Syndicate turns out go be Shichibukai Crocodile

Joker turns out to be Shichibukai Doflamingo.





The premise of Alabasta is a princess trying to save her nation from being taken over by Crocodile. The Strawhats befriend this princess, and prevent the Good King Riku from being falsely blamed.

The premise of Alabasta is a princess trying to save her nation from Doflamingo. The Strawhats befriend this princess and will restore the good king Riku from his false accusation.


At the end of the day, suspected Nakama Vivi stays with her father to rebuild a country. Former antagonist Nico Robin joins the crew.

At the end of the day, suspected Nakama Rebecca stays with her father and grandfather to rebuild a country. Former antagonist Sugsr joins the crew.

Crocodile had a subordinate Mr. 5 who used explosions to blow things up. Another Nakama who could stick you in place (Mr. 3), a person who could alter her weight (Miss Valentine's Day).

Doflamingo has a subordinate Gladius who could pump things up to explode. Another Nakama who could stick you in place (Trebol), and a person who could alter his weight (Machvise)




The parallels are strong. Disregarding this...

1. Trebol has spoken as if she means nothing: no one knows you exist.

2. She's had several panels where she looks mentally conflicted.


Which closely resembles the strange actions Robin herself has taken in the past: saving Luffy. Helping them reach Alabasta.

 

[Skylar Knight]

I don't know how much I want her go join, but think about it.


First Island in the Grand Line: Whiskey Peak

First Island in the New World: Punk Hazard

Whiskey Peak run by secret syndicate Baroque Works

Punk Hazard Run by secret underworld Broker Joker


Baroque Works Syndicate turns out go be Shichibukai Crocodile

Joker turns out to be Shichibukai Doflamingo.





The premise of Alabasta is a princess trying to save her nation from being taken over by Crocodile. The Strawhats befriend this princess, and prevent the Good King Riku from being falsely blamed.

The premise of Alabasta is a princess trying to save her nation from Doflamingo. The Strawhats befriend this princess and will restore the good king Riku from his false accusation.


At the end of the day, suspected Nakama Vivi stays with her father to rebuild a country. Former antagonist Nico Robin joins the crew.

At the end of the day, suspected Nakama Rebecca stays with her father and grandfather to rebuild a country. Former antagonist Sugsr joins the crew.

Crocodile had a subordinate Mr. 5 who used explosions to blow things up. Another Nakama who could stick you in place (Mr. 3), a person who could alter her weight (Miss Valentine's Day).

Doflamingo has a subordinate Gladius who could pump things up to explode. Another Nakama who could stick you in place (Trebol), and a person who could alter his weight (Machvise)




The parallels are strong. Disregarding this...

1. Trebol has spoken as if she means nothing: no one knows you exist.

2. She's had several panels where she looks mentally conflicted.


Which closely resembles the strange actions Robin herself has taken in the past: saving Luffy. Helping them reach Alabasta.

It's no coincidence either, or at least I doubt it is. Don't forget these either:

- The Strawhats meet Laboon the moment they reach the Grand Line.
- The Strawhats meet a flock of whales the moment they reach the New World.

- Crocodile uses the illegal substance "Dance Powder" in his plans.
- Doflamingo uses the underground substance "SAD" in his plans.

- The Strawhats disguise themselves as citizens when they arrive at Alabasta.
- The Strawhats disguise themselves as citizens when they arrive at Dressrosa.

- Crocodile is viewed as a hero by the people of Alabasta.
- Doflamingo is viewed as a hero by the people of Dressrosa.

- A rebellion rise up against Cobra, the king of Alabasta.
- A rebellion rise up against Doflamingo, the king of Dressrosa.

- The brotherly reunion between Luffy and Ace takes place.
- The brotherly reunion between Luffy and Sabo takes place.

- The enemy's plan depends on Robin's ability to read the poneglyphs.
- The enemy's plan depends on Sugar's ability to turn people into toys.

I'm also starting to suspect that Dellinger is the parallel to Bon Clay. Just look at how he's dressed, and if this is true, then so could be said about their abilities. We saw how Dellinger grew a shark fin during the last chapter, right? What if he can turn to every animal he touches, like Bon clay can turn into every human he touches?

Lastly, if they meet Sugar again in the next couple of chapters, she could end up helping them reach Doflamingo, just like Robin did to Luffy in the Alabasta arc. If this really happens, then I have no doubt that she'll be the next member. At least her chances get a real boost.

 

[Naruto Power]

like the prediction
but im going to take it one further.
she doesnt turn dd family to toys just don then at closing of arc.
all world nobles royalty. sorry cant remember there name you know they wear a glass bubble

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

It's no coincidence either, or at least I doubt it is. Don't forget these either:

- The Strawhats meet Laboon the moment they reach the Grand Line.
- The Strawhats meet a flock of whales the moment they reach the New World.

- Crocodile uses the illegal substance "Dance Powder" in his plans.
- Doflamingo uses the underground substance "SAD" in his plans.

- The Strawhats disguise themselves as citizens when they arrive at Alabasta.
- The Strawhats disguise themselves as citizens when they arrive at Dressrosa.

- Crocodile is viewed as a hero by the people of Alabasta.
- Doflamingo is viewed as a hero by the people of Dressrosa.

- A rebellion rise up against Cobra, the king of Alabasta.
- A rebellion rise up against Doflamingo, the king of Dressrosa.

- The brotherly reunion between Luffy and Ace takes place.
- The brotherly reunion between Luffy and Sabo takes place.

- The enemy's plan depends on Robin's ability to read the poneglyphs.
- The enemy's plan depends on Sugar's ability to turn people into toys.

I'm also starting to suspect that Dellinger is the parallel to Bon Clay. Just look at how he's dressed, and if this is true, then so could be said about their abilities. We saw how Dellinger grew a shark fin during the last chapter, right? What if he can turn to every animal he touches, like Bon clay can turn into every human he touches?

Lastly, if they meet Sugar again in the next couple of chapters, she could end up helping them reach Doflamingo, just like Robin did to Luffy in the Alabasta arc. If this really happens, then I have no doubt that she'll be the next members. At least her chances get a real boost.

It's not coincide for sure. its purposeful parallel. I just did enough to get the point across.