[VS] SM Kabuto SM Naruto SM minato Vs SM hashirama SM Jiraiya SM Orachimaru

[Unorthodox]

Team 1 wins with Mid Difficulty

White rage renders Hashirama useless and exposed to a Minato blitz. Or While team 2 is crippled by white rage naruto can just launch a Rasenshuriken there way and GG.

slap yourself Hashirama stomps his bushin are not affected by white range nor is white rage having an effect once hashirama puts up a wood barrier

Hashirama wins low diff SS stomps

 

[Beans2]

Pretty sure sound gen takes all of team 2 out of commission. Or is there a magical counter to that for team 2?.(oh and its done much faster than frog song too)

Ma and pa disturb jiraiya's chakra and break him out of genjutsu
After that jiraiya disturbs his teammate's chakra. Not to mention tayuyas genjutsu would also affect team 1 as well

 

[genii96]

Ma and pa disturb jiraiya's chakra and break him out of genjutsu
After that jiraiya disturbs his teammate's chakra. Not to mention tayuyas genjutsu would also affect team 1 as well

and who will break ma and pa out of genjutsu?,or are you forgetting that they will also be caught in it too?.
Dosent matter if all are affected,kabuto can finish off the other team or just break his teammates out,then they finish it.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Did i say he solos because hes hashirama, NO, i didnt,
its not wank when they are all leagues below him, in terms of feats and portrayal
and you being butthurt over it isnt helping, when all the otherr posters have said the same thing


1. Kabuto is getting squashed like a bug thats whats happening, him being able to go underground and hide whilst his team mates get massacred isnt a good strategy at all, furthermore oral rebirth cant be spammmed at alll, as all SS needs is a few hits and kabuto is done for,
Flower Tree World and Bringer of Darkness can also be used by Hashirama to kill kabuto off

2. Minato is not teleporting anywhere, seeing how the AOE of SS will easily bypass his limits of FTG, and the fact that the OP didnt give him any additional prep at all, and S/T barrier is not shit, it only works on thrown projectiles, not a juubi sized structure, not to mention that if minato even tries to get anywhere near it (doesnt matter since he would be within its range anyway), he is getting crushed like a bug,

3. Where are they getting away to??? the whole location would be affected by SS. seeeing how its a juubi sized statue, and has a huge AOE, whereever they go to, therefore rendering minatos FTG and speed useless and thats that, without any prep they are not evading its onslaught in a million years
they have nothing on it at all, nor do they have anywhere near the firepower to break it,

1. So basically you have no counter to that? Your excuse is that it's a bad strategy because it doesn't involve his whole team. So what your saying is that Kabuto therefore must stand there and allow SS to hit him because you don't want him to use hiding like a mile to avoid it? Great argument. You also didn't say anything about his ability to liquify his body so that he doesn't receive any damage. He doesn't even need oral rebirth here.
- Bringer of darkness is useless because white rages light completely overcomes the darkness and the effects also paralyse Hashirama temporarily as well. Bringer of darkness also fails because these are all sage mode users, so they can sense and feel everything going on around them. Not sure why you're bring other jutsu into this, my only gripe was you saying SS soloes, so I'm only talking about SS.

2. SS does not bypass Minatos area of FTG. Or are you forgetting how minato set up his markings to cover a large area around the ten tails so fast that no one saw, noticed or detected him. Or how he used space time barrier to teleport the ten tails beast bomb. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't both the ten tails and the bomb both larger than SS. I certainly know that the bomb made Gyuki look like an ant. And yes the space time barrier will work, if it's coming straight towards him (which it will). It's funny that you say it won't work on a Juubi sized structure, yet minato has already pulled off such a feat in the manga already. And the location is the final valley, so throwing a kunai into the valley to the bottom of the deep lake, minato can slow it down by teleporting it into the ditch/valley. And if the op was only referring to the final valley lake area where Naruto and Sasuke fought, and not the acres of land beyond it, then that's even better because SS is way too big to even be used in such a space without crushing everyone including Hashirama's team. Unless you think the final valley is a large enough location to actually use SS, and on water -_-

3. You're saying minato cannot get away from SS on foot with his body flicker speed? Yeah right, that thing is slow as ****. It ain't getting anywhere near him if he runs. We've seen him cross huge distances in the blink of an eye before, so if he's going full speed at a constant rate, that crap is never getting near him. I don't know where you got the idea that SS is a nuke, because it's not affecting the whole area, there is land upon lands of space to run to. And you don't need incredible speed to outrun it either, once again, Madara ran straight into it. I honestly can't believe you think SS can't be outrun, it's not a franking rocket jet. It's like a tank, big, durable, powerful but not very fast at all. Kabutos liquid body won't be affected and minato easily outruns it while carrying Naruto or FTGing him to safety.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

1. So basically you have no counter to that? Your excuse is that it's a bad strategy because it doesn't involve his whole team. So what your saying is that Kabuto therefore must stand there and allow SS to hit him because you don't want him to use hiding like a mile to avoid it? Great argument. You also didn't say anything about his ability to liquify his body so that he doesn't receive any damage. He doesn't even need oral rebirth here.
- Bringer of darkness is useless because white rages light completely overcomes the darkness and the effects also paralyse Hashirama temporarily as well. Bringer of darkness also fails because these are all sage mode users, so they can sense and feel everything going on around them. Not sure why you're bring other jutsu into this, my only gripe was you saying SS soloes, so I'm only talking about SS.

2. SS does not bypass Minatos area of FTG. Or are you forgetting how minato set up his markings to cover a large area around the ten tails so fast that no one saw, noticed or detected him. Or how he used space time barrier to teleport the ten tails beast bomb. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't both the ten tails and the bomb both larger than SS. I certainly know that the bomb made Gyuki look like an ant. And yes the space time barrier will work, if it's coming straight towards him (which it will). It's funny that you say it won't work on a Juubi sized structure, yet minato has already pulled off such a feat in the manga already. And the location is the final valley, so throwing a kunai into the valley to the bottom of the deep lake, minato can slow it down by teleporting it into the ditch/valley. And if the op was only referring to the final valley lake area where Naruto and Sasuke fought, and not the acres of land beyond it, then that's even better because SS is way too big to even be used in such a space without crushing everyone including Hashirama's team. Unless you think the final valley is a large enough location to actually use SS, and on water -_-

3. You're saying minato cannot get away from SS on foot with his body flicker speed? Yeah right, that thing is slow as ****. It ain't getting anywhere near him if he runs. We've seen him cross huge distances in the blink of an eye before, so if he's going full speed at a constant rate, that crap is never getting near him. I don't know where you got the idea that SS is a nuke, because it's not affecting the whole area, there is land upon lands of space to run to. And you don't need incredible speed to outrun it either, once again, Madara ran straight into it. I honestly can't believe you think SS can't be outrun, it's not a franking rocket jet. It's like a tank, big, durable, powerful but not very fast at all. Kabutos liquid body won't be affected and minato easily outruns it while carrying Naruto or FTGing him to safety.

But But what about portrayal? Lmao. Kill em.

 

[Gold Lightning]

But But what about portrayal? Lmao. Kill em.

Dude, I agree that team 2 wins. What I don't agree with is that SS solos or even poses much of a threat to team 1.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Hashirama would solo these guys without much difficulty at all.

 

[ARGUS]

1. So basically you have no counter to that? Your excuse is that it's a bad strategy because it doesn't involve his whole team. So what your saying is that Kabuto therefore must stand there and allow SS to hit him because you don't want him to use hiding like a mile to avoid it? Great argument. You also didn't say anything about his ability to liquify his body so that he doesn't receive any damage. He doesn't even need oral rebirth here.
- Bringer of darkness is useless because white rages light completely overcomes the darkness and the effects also paralyse Hashirama temporarily as well. Bringer of darkness also fails because these are all sage mode users, so they can sense and feel everything going on around them. Not sure why you're bring other jutsu into this, my only gripe was you saying SS soloes, so I'm only talking about SS.

What do you mean i have no counter to that???
you claimed that kabuto should hide like a mole,,, and what i am saying is that it isnt good enough since naruto and minato would still get massacred by SS,
as for the liquifying, kabuto still has nothing at all against flower tree world, and with mokujin and mokuryu being able to still bind him and absorb his chakra means that the pollen will inflict poison on him
Bringer of Darkness was only used as an opening in my premise,
i am well aware that they are SM users, however usig White Rage to counter it isnt valid at all, since it lacks the range and time frame to effectively get hashirama before he squashes them with SS,,

@bold - You were pissed at me for claiming that hashirama solos, and now ur saying that u are only concerned about SS, clearly you need to make up your mind, because its clear that hashirama does solo here,

2. SS does not bypass Minatos area of FTG. Or are you forgetting how minato set up his markings to cover a large area around the ten tails so fast that no one saw, noticed or detected him. Or how he used space time barrier to teleport the ten tails beast bomb. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't both the ten tails and the bomb both larger than SS. I certainly know that the bomb made Gyuki look like an ant. And yes the space time barrier will work, if it's coming straight towards him (which it will). It's funny that you say it won't work on a Juubi sized structure, yet minato has already pulled off such a feat in the manga already. And the location is the final valley, so throwing a kunai into the valley to the bottom of the deep lake, minato can slow it down by teleporting it into the ditch/valley. And if the op was only referring to the final valley lake area where Naruto and Sasuke fought, and not the acres of land beyond it, then that's even better because SS is way too big to even be used in such a space without crushing everyone including Hashirama's team. Unless you think the final valley is a large enough location to actually use SS, and on water -_-

The bold is purelly based on speculation, backed up by no evidence at all,
however what we can tell is that

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which was where he teleported the bomb, seeing how its kilometres away and in the fkn sea, furthermore the OP has given Minato no additional prep at all, meaning that he has to place markings during the battle, and hashiramas attacks unlike TBB are not projectile based, therefore rendering S/T barrier useless, i never said size is the concern for the barrier, its the fact that its not a projectile is why its ineffective,

as for the AOE of SS, you clearly dont know much or you are simply in denial,,

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, Minato is never travelling mountains worth of distance ON FOOT,, without getting affected by attacks that can form valleys, and

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, therefore eradicating minato with ease

@bold(2) - lol that is pure nonsense, i wont even bother with that bs, and lastly hashirama can get his team mates to stand on top of his SS with him, thereby keeping them safe from its onslaught, on top of the fact that the closed location (which you think is beneficial) is infact much much worse for minato, since he wont be able to place markings outside the AOE, and the attacks of SS will immediately destroy the location and minato along with it,

3. You're saying minato cannot get away from SS on foot with his body flicker speed? Yeah right, that thing is slow as ****. It ain't getting anywhere near him if he runs. We've seen him cross huge distances in the blink of an eye before, so if he's going full speed at a constant rate, that crap is never getting near him. I don't know where you got the idea that SS is a nuke, because it's not affecting the whole area, there is land upon lands of space to run to. And you don't need incredible speed to outrun it either, once again, Madara ran straight into it. I honestly can't believe you think SS can't be outrun, it's not a franking rocket jet. It's like a tank, big, durable, powerful but not very fast at all. Kabutos liquid body won't be affected and minato easily outruns it while carrying Naruto or FTGing him to safety.

Minato is not getting away from its AOE thats what i am saying,
i never said that minatos foot speed is slow,, he is still never covering tens of kilometres within seconds before getting eradicated by SS, and thats that, and as for the bold, thats FTG not his foot speed, and his limits of FTG are clearly bypassed here,

SS cant be outrunned because it has a large area of effect, meaning that wherever minato would try to run to, he would still get affected from its attack, it doesnt need to be fast seeing how it only needs a couple of Chojo Kobetsus to cover his limits of FTG and crush minato,
and as for naruto he is utmost non factor here,, he cant evade its onslaught like his dad, and doesnt have anywhere near the firepower to compete against hashirama

as for kabuto, hee would get taken out by flower tree world, whilst the father/son duo get taken out by SS,, so yes hashirama does solo which was why you called me a ''hashirama fapboy'' in the first place, because you are simply too reluctant to agree that this is the case,