Kakazu fought hashi right?

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The fact that he survives didn't prove crap man. Dude had 5 hearts and only 4 masks. Hashi probably took him out 4 times and the dude played dead.

If I recalled correctly, he didin't have the hearts before he fought hashi.
 

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Except Hashi was that strong. Like Madara in the flashbacks at like 12 both were already capable of taking out adult shinobi vetrans. Plus he an Ashura transmigrant. Even fighting Hashi as a teen was probably more than a challenge for Kakuzu. Not to downgrade Kakuzu's power or anything.

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They were only seen fighting each other in the flashback.
 

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I am sure it was a hard fought battle. But Hashi probably wanst that strong at the time.

When did Kakuzu fight him? Because Base hashirama was able to fight on par/beat EMS madara(without the kyuubi) PRIOR to becoming hokage. I am absolutely certain Kakuzu was sent to assassinate him after he became the hokage, in which case the fight would be a stomp.(since ems madara is way above kakuzu)
 

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When did Kakuzu fight him? Because Base hashirama was able to fight on par/beat EMS madara(without the kyuubi) PRIOR to becoming hokage. I am absolutely certain Kakuzu was sent to assassinate him after he became the hokage, in which case the fight would be a stomp.(since ems madara is way above kakuzu)

Oh true. So yeah it was a stomp.

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Forehead protectors means Hashi was Hokage when they fought.
 

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The fact that he survived proves something. He's not given enough credit.

It proves nothing.

It's like saying "I survived the Nagasaki bombing in WWII", it doesn't make me Batman. Base Hashirama held his own against EMS Madara and the Kyuubi simultaneously, and then gained the upper hand after entering Sage Mode; do you really think Kakuzu is going to be problematic?
 

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They were only seen fighting each other in the flashback.

yes true, but before that. Madara's dad mentioned that Madara was already felling adult shinobi at the time madara revealed to him his Sharingan. And Madara told Izuna that Hashi was stronger than him before their bitter rivalry came to a head.

So if they were both capable of killing vertran shinobi at that age. I assume Hashi was pretty damn strong as an adolescent and teen. So at whatever age Kakuzu took on Hashi, Hashi was already pretty strong. At least that's my theory. I can't really prove that.
 

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Kakuzu stomped the shit out of Hashi
 

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hmmmm welll kakzu did have all five chakra natures.......,but still i'd say fairly even
 

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It never showed the fight so how would we know that? o_O
It was already said after he failed to kill hashirama his village discraced him and tortured him or something like that. Than he stole the secret forbidden jutsu and took the elders hearts and left.

OT im sure he put up a decent fight. It wasn't a rofl stomp, kakuzu probably got a hit or 2 dodged some attack, whipped out a surprise jutsu. Then hashi does a jutsu that badly fks kakuzu up. Like darkness genjutsu followed by a beating or something.
 

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It never showed the fight so how would we know that? o_O
Kakuzu got the Kinjutsu to get the hearts and beome immortal after he got beaten by Hashirama because he was shamed by the village. So Kakuzu did not have the ability of the hearts/masks back then.
 

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Kakuzu was young at that age, and didn't possess Jiongu. Current Kakuzu would be defeated High Diff by Hashirama.
 

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It proves nothing.

It's like saying "I survived the Nagasaki bombing in WWII", it doesn't make me Batman. Base Hashirama held his own against EMS Madara and the Kyuubi simultaneously, and then gained the upper hand after entering Sage Mode; do you really think Kakuzu is going to be problematic?

no its liek saying, ms sasuke goes to fight ems madara and survives. it shows that sasuke was strong enough to survive the fight and not get murdered
 

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Kakuzu got the Kinjutsu to get the hearts and beome immortal after he got beaten by Hashirama because he was shamed by the village. So Kakuzu did not have the ability of the hearts/masks back then.

That's another thing I'm wondering too, If he had the masks, maybe he'd be more of a challenge then.
 

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Hashirama kicked Kakuzu's ass and allowed Kakuzu to live out of kindness. Hashirama is the avatar of benevolence
 
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