[Discussion] Kakashi and Obito can move in the gravity

Meowazziel

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So Kaguya turned the place into a gravity realm.
Naruto and Sasuke couldnt move due to it.
Kaguya herself was affected too.
Kakashi and Obito at first as well, yet some seconds later, they were able to move. Like how?
Maybe I need to reread it again.
I just checked it on my phone but I was like ''wtf, why can Kakashi and Obito move around in that realm?''

Did it have something to do with ''is gravity deviating it'' what black zetsu said.
The gravity wasnt set right at that point?
In what way? Because it was so heavy that even Kaguya couldnt move.

Than we have Kakashi and Obito both seeing Rin. Imagining Rin?
That means with enough will power, you can resist the gravity?
That means Naruto, Sasuke and Kaguya arent using enough of their willpower?

There were a lot of cool things in this chapter.
I liked Naruto's battlesmartness with letting a clone wear the Gudoudama.
The fact that he can handle Kaguya so well on his own is awesome as well.
I like how Kaguya is fighting with a Kimimaro like style (other way around actually) and incorparating this ash ability (similar to c4) into it.
Hagoromo meeting the edo kages and them planning something was cool too.

and than this wtf why can Kakashi and Obito suddenly move in the gravity realm happened.
I didnt like that part so far.

I hope someone can explain that to me.

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Besides, why didnt Naruto use the gudoudama to defend them vs the bone attacks?
Or Sasuke using Susanoo? Unless those abilities dont work vs the bone attacks of course.
 
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Yeah i too have my confusion's with that, but what i thought is that they acted out of their sheer willpower. They were willing to sacrifice thats what motivated them to move.
 

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looool that is so true bro, the question is why is Kishi doing this??? He is using so much plot no jutsu to reduce the enemy and increase others… anyway I suspect she will get stronger even more, so that the Hokages will have a job on their hands, just like it was against Obito.

1. Kaguya has the Byakugan and she can see chakra flows, so she should be able to tell the real Naruto, instead of listening to Black Zetsu who sems to be making mistakes… its almost like Kaguya has been dead for so long that she can't think anymore.

2. She really can't use Ninjutsu or is the dimension sh** her only ninjutsu? In that case, I feel that Madara would have been a better final villain

3. So Sasuke's eyes have intervals where it can't function, something like 5 or 10 seconds just like pain and Madara

4. Naruto is trolling Kaguya whenever he like.. loooool, it's almost like he fears her less than other villains. For once in Naruto Verse, he has seen someone that is so much dumber than he is, although I must say that Naruto has always been smart since the vs Pain battle.

5. Is Obito really gonna die now??? its so sad but I know that kishi will use it as some kind of filler where he will show Obito and Rin talking for so long, he is so easy to read nowadays. Btw Obito could have just used Kamui on Naruto and Sasuke instead of running there first and then deciding to use Kamui loool, wow Kishi is so wonderful in his imagination. He could have even used Kamui on Kaguya just to delay her or simply open Kamu i dimension for the bones to fly into, but I guess this is how Kishi wants to end it
 

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@ Marksonm post #4

Maybe Obito didnt have enough chakra left to Kamui a person, let alone 2 persons.
I dont think he can Kamui 2 things at the same time with 2 eyes. It is just a better Kamui with 2 eyes, but not more Kamui's.
So he couldnt Kamui both bone attacks away, nor both Naruto and Sasuke.
He couldnt Kamui Kaguya either (costs to much chakra which he didnt have anymore) and Kaguya probably has a counter vs Kamui.

Him sacrificing himself and using Kamui on the other bone attack was the right move I believe.

Apparently Madara is special and is the only person who can differentiate clones from the real person.
The battle vs Kaguya would be a lot less interesting if she could differentiate too.
However, with Byakugan, that Sharinganrinnegan eye, being the mother of Hagoromo and Hamura, one would wonder why she cant differentiate between clones. She even has senjutsu right?

No Byakugan user has ever been shown to differentiate yet between clones and the real one. So actually maybe it is not that odd that Kaguya cant either.
Byakugan has better insight than Sharingan in general (it has 360 degree vision and several miles of vision too).
Madara is just a unique case, who has an ability to see something (clones from the real one) that Byakugan cant.
Or maybe if Madara was born with Byakugan, he could have seen it too.
Maybe it is due to Indra's chakra. I dunno for sure.

Maybe the technique worked like:
The more chakra someone has the more the gravity bounds him? :|
Yeah that would be a possibility.
Yeah i too have my confusion's with that, but what i thought is that they acted out of their sheer willpower. They were willing to sacrifice thats what motivated them to move.
So Naruto and Sasuke lack willpower? Or only the will to sacrifice yourself is enough?
 

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So Naruto and Sasuke lack willpower? Or only the will to sacrifice yourself is enough?

I didnt say that. Obito and kakashi both were prepared to die any moment, thats why they rushed to protect putting their lives in danger, see? You need to have guts to sacrifice yourself. Naruto and sasuke both were trying to dodge kaguyas attack, it's no use to stand up and run away from her at that point because thats a guaranteed death for them. Only obito and kakashi were capable of doing something like that because they were ready to die anyway.
 
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Let me simply answer your question.. Remember how Madada felt heavy?? And had to spit out sage tools to reduce chakra/weight? Right now basically naruto, kaguya, and Sasuke have so much chakras that it weighs them down in this dimension.. I could be wrong though.
 
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i believe that more chakra someone have the more he is affected by that "gravity" jutsu ..... so kakashi and obito whose are nearly out of chakra could have moved in the end
 

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I think that was sheer force of will/plot.
 
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