[Theory] Izanami maybe used on Kaguya

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Hey guys, I've got a theory here compliments of user Complex for first bringing up the idea.

But before that, I have to get some facts straight.

What is Izanami?

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Izanami is a jutsu used to decide fate, it is used on those who believe they are essentially something they're not.

Like Kabuto, after taking in all the abilities and techniques of others, he believed they were his own, which made him lose himself.

So unless the person accepts who they really* are, Izanami is always a likely plan.

Now onto Kaguya.

Who is she?

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Kaguya came from a faraway land to pick the fruit of the Holy Tree, and by eating this, she gained chakra.

If you read the panel, Madara says:

"And with that, Kaguya was able to gain the Holy power"

Having chakra is not who Kaguya is, chakra was an acquired power for her. It's not who she really* is.

But, Kaguya thinks otherwise.

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Kaguya: Chakra is only mine.

This line makes her the perfect candidate for Izanami.

Chakra is not hers, the god we see in the manga now is not who Kaguya really* is.

Kaguya is really* just a powerless Princess from a distant land, with no chakra.

Now for some comparisons.

Let's compare Kaguya with the only known victim of Izanami, Kabuto.

Kabuto absorbed countless abilities and techniques, then went on believing they were his.

Kaguya stole chakra from the God Tree, and now believe it's all hers.

Kabuto thought no one could defeat him.

Black Zetsu, Kaguya's will and supposed child, claims no one can defeat her.

*If he's her will, then they essentially share the same ideals*

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As you can see now, every power Kaguya possess is not hers.

It's not who she really* is.

If she were to be put under Izanami, she would have to fight an illusionary Naruto and Sasuke until she realizes that everything she has, is not hers.

And honestly, after merging with the God Tree to form the Juubi to steal the chakra from her sons, lying dormant for almost a millenuim, and now reviving, she might never* accept this fact and thus, be sealed away for eternity.

Now, I'm not saying Izanami will be used on Kaguya, but I'm simply pointing out that she is infact the PERFECT candidate to have Iznaami used.

Hope you guys enjoyed, leave your thoughts below!

Notice anything that I missed or something that isn't true? Please feel free to correct me, unlike 95% of the internet, I take criticism easily and always use what I learn later on.

Thanks for reading ! And again, thank you to user Complex for sprouting the idea as well as giving me permission to use it !

So long !

 

[Flakez]

Kaguya is part of the Juubi, so in a sense it's hers.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Kaguya is part of the Juubi, so in a sense it's hers.

Technically, the Juubi never would've existed if Kaguya dodn't merge herself with the exisiting God Tree, she again, took something that wasn't who she really was, and tried to make it her own.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

So, something that failed to incapacitate Kabuto for a single day- is going to work on a god?


If anything izanami will be used to tnj kaguya into being good. The point of izanami is to make a person realize who they are, not to trap them forever.-- eventually, after enough loops she would realize who she was and join team naruto

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

So, something that failed so work on Kabuto, is going to work on a god?

If anything izanami will be used to tnj kaguya into being good. The point of izanami is to make a person realize who they are, not to trap them forever.-- eventually, after enough loops she would realize who she was and join team naruto

Izanami did work on Kabuto.

And like I said, she may never accept the fact that chakra isn't hers, so she may never release herself from it.

Edit: and i said numerous times that it's not who she is, not something intended to trap her forever.

 

[NovaSasuke]

Good read and this has some good logic into it.

But,


How can she become a candidate while she controls all dimensions?

Itachi stated: "every jutsu has a weakness"

Her weakness could be: Spam Reverse Harem No Jutsu.

Not izanami.

Good thought though!

 

[snorlaxsuxx]

Even if Sasuke or Obito could cast it on her, she most definitely could take herself out of it. Keep in mind, Izanami isn't eternal (much like what happen with Kabuto) .

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Even if Sasuke or Obito could cast it on her, she most definitely could take herself out of it. Keep in mind, Izanami isn't eternal (much like what happen with Kabuto) .

The only way out of Izanami is to accept who you really are.

Chakra is not hers, and having chakra is not who she is.

Unless she accepts this, she can't escape.

And if she does accept this, she will not be power obsessed and not venture for all the worlds chakra.

Edit: and Kabuto accepted who he really was, so he freed himself. Kaguya may never accept who really is, so may never be able to escape

 

[snorlaxsuxx]

The only way out of Izanami is to accept who you really are.

Chakra is not hers, and having chakra is not who she is.

Unless she accepts this, she can't escape.

And if she does accept this, she will not be power obsessed and not venture for all the worlds chakra.

Edit: and Kabuto accepted who he really was, so he freed himself. Kaguya may never accept who really is, so may never be able to escape

I still think it would be a cheap shot, especially since Sasuke found out about the technique earlier in the day. I would expect a much more climatic event to occur.

 

[Orochimagus]

Kaguya was not powerless. She already had the Byakugan and Sharingan before eating the fruit. She came for the fruit with the intent to cause was and control others. She sees chakra as her own because she is a dictator.

 

[larryjc]

She most likely had Byakugan to begin with. Izanami has a loophole. If you detect it fast, you will break out of it without being taught the lesson. Every jutsu has a weakness. The weakness of Izanami is its loophole. You don't really have to accept who you truly are. Just say you do and the loop ends.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

Izanami is written on stone tablet.
BZ said everything there originated from his mother.
Kaguya is immune to ninjutsus
Izanami is ninjutsus
So, no. Izanami cannot work on her.

 

[Draxus]

Kabuto's self-identity issue had nothing to with the powers he collected and in fact began long ago when he killed his adoptive mother.

Just because Kaguya believes chakra belongs to her, doesn't mean she can't accept who she truly is.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

She most likely had Byakugan to begin with. Izanami has a loophole. If you detect it fast, you will break out of it without being taught the lesson. Every jutsu has a weakness. The weakness of Izanami is its loophole. You don't really have to accept who you truly are. Just say you do and the loop ends.

Itachi stated: "every jutsu has a weakness"

Good thought though!

The only weakness to Izanami is the fact that you lose 1 eye, other than that, nothing.

And yes, Izanami is used to turn greedy, hateful people into good ones, kind of like TnJ by force hahah

So, unless Kaguya stops being greedy and accepts who she really is and turns to the good side, she will forever remain in a loop!

Itachi solo G-o-D people need to understand this, the sooner they do, they can finally escape the hatred in their hearts towards the solo G-o-D, and the mighty Itachi will forgive them.

Solo.

 

[Draxus]

And yes, Izanami is used to turn greedy, hateful people into good ones, kind of like TnJ by force hahah

Wrong. Izanami is used to trap people who use Izunagi.

Itatchi used in away it wasn't designed for, and highly unlikely to work on a majority of people. It has absolutely nothing to do with turning someone from bad to good.

 

[Hata Hideaki]

Bzztz: wrong.
Do you really want kaguya to be stopped by a lowly jutus like izanami!?
And kishi will never ever use that jutsu again in NV. 'Cause we already saw that jutsu and thats the end of it.
Even if that jutsu were to take place, there is no uchiha right now who is willing to do that:
Obito's role right now is to make sure naruto and sasuke stay together, i.e if they were to be seperated again he will be the teleporter, though that role might be over but still he is in no position to do izanami.
Now sasuke, he absolutely cannot perform izanami. You know the reason so no point in explaining.

And finally, did you not read the manga.!? Kishi clearly mention about "sealing her" NOT to find her true self. So your theory is pointless.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Wrong. Izanami is used to trap people who use Izunagi.

Itatchi used in away it wasn't designed for, and highly unlikely to work on a majority of people. It has absolutely nothing to do with turning someone from bad to good.

Wrong.

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Izanami was created as a method to reprimand such clansmen, as well as save them from their own arrogance. By imprisoning them within an unalterable loop of events, the victim was forced to accept the reality they had created if they ever wished to escape the illusion.

Izanami is meant to trap people who are arrogant, greedy etc. and only after they have accepted reality and promise to do the right thing, they will be freed from Izanami.

Itachi solo gg

 

[JCW]

nah bruh..

already known techs will not work on her. Sasuke+naruto will combine and come up with something original...

if she did lose to something like that... what is the point in naruto getting any boost ups

 

[Draxus]

Wrong.

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Izanami was created as a method to reprimand such clansmen, as well as save them from their own arrogance. By imprisoning them within an unalterable loop of events, the victim was forced to accept the reality they had created if they ever wished to escape the illusion.

Izanami is meant to trap people who are arrogant, greedy etc. and only after they have accepted reality and promise to do the right thing, they will be freed from Izanami.

Itachi solo gg

Yeah... next time try referencing the manga. Pretty sure that wiki page you copied conveniently left out that the the unalterable loop event is started by using Izanagi. Greedy and arrogant people USED izanagi. It wasn't their personality that made the jutsu successful, but the fact they used izanagi first. One needs to only except their destiny, they don't have to become a good person.

start at panel 3 and keep reading:

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[NeutralChaos]

Yeah... next time try referencing the manga. Pretty sure that wiki page you copied conveniently left out that the the unalterable loop event is started by using Izanagi. Greedy and arrogant people USED izanagi. It wasn't their personality that made the jutsu successful, but the fact they used izanagi first. One needs to only except their destiny, they don't have to become a good person.

start at panel 3 and keep reading:

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Wrong. You don't have to have used Izanagi in order for Izanami to work on you, unless you think Kabuto used Izanagi.