Kishimoto's kind of smart.

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He incorporates the "ying/yang" idea in literally every character in naruto. Sasuke and Naruto are an example of darkness and light, sakura and hinata are actually another. If you look at both characters, you'l notice that Sakura is just the more positive..more hyper version of hinata, while hinata's a more darker ish version of sakura. This isnt an accident, another great example is Jiraiya and orochimaru, kakashi and gai, Hashirama and his brother, Hiruzen and danzo, Nagato and yahiko and Killer b and A, so on and so forth. White zetsu and black zetsu are the depiction of yang and ying. He actually uses an important part of cinematography to identify which element belongs to each character, naruto dresses more...."lighter"? than sasuke? while sasuke's getups are always dark, it represents his character.

Anyways my point is, kishimoto's especially skilled at incorporating the concept of good and evil, opposites etc.
 
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Lee and Neji, Obito and Kakashi, etc. Some might say it's a bit repetitive, but it makes sense if you take Madara's quote into consideration

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The whole Naruto world functions on Yin and Yang. It would make less sense if there weren't as many parallels tbh. Kishi's pretty damn smart
 

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But as you can see , the Yin has a small piece of Darkness inside of it so I guess the darkness in naruto was growing up a jinjuriki and all his orphan struggles and Sasuke s yang is mostly darkness with a small piece of light since he has a dark story but the will of fire still burns inside of him to be good
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Lee and Neji, Obito and Kakashi, etc. Some might say it's a bit repetitive, but it makes sense if you take Madara's quote into consideration

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The whole Naruto world functions on Yin and Yang. It would make less sense if there weren't as many parallels tbh. Kishi's pretty damn smart

I agree, to me i dont find it repetitive, i just find that he's trying to send a message. Only very few notice it, but the big idea of his story is that good and bad can exist if they manage to work together and work out their odds.
 

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Dude this shits so deep im gonna drown.
 

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But as you can see , the Yin has a small piece of Darkness inside of it so I guess the darkness in naruto was growing up a jinjuriki and all his orphan struggles and Sasuke s yang is mostly darkness with a small piece of light since he has a dark story but the will of fire still burns inside of him to be good
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The reason why its like that is because, "nobody is perfect", while yang is generally good, theres always littel temptations and humane parts that still linger. Same as ying, it isnt all bad, the idea within that is "behind all evil, theres a reason".

sasuke isnt evil

He isnt persay "evil" but, the idea sstands that he is someone that would do anything to get his way. He's dark, neither good or evil. Thats what ying is. "darkness", doesnt necessarily mean evil.

Isn't it just toooooo simple?


You can say its simple, but cinimatography isnt the easiest part of media, incorporating these ideals is pretty tough. Reason being; it can be interpreted to people differently.
 

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When I see Sasuke actually kill someone in cold blood i'll consider him evil.
 

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I'm going to take the other side and say that he really isn't. If he was such a good writer, then he wouldn't have to have one of his characters point out a major theme of his work. Dante, Longfellow, Gibson, Twain, and Vonnegut didn't need characters to explicitly state the theme's of their books to still be able to convene them to the reader
 

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When I see Sasuke actually kill someone in cold blood i'll consider him evil.

He would've killed karin in cold blood if the damage was fatal enough. He would've killed naruto in cold blood if the fight persisted, he killed his brother in cold blood, i know he was confused, but it is still cold blood.
 

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how long has it been since the last thread about complimenting kishi has been made...
 

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Sounds like your English teacher asked you to analyze the manga for an essay xD
OT: quite true though, I agree with your point.
 

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I'm going to take the other side and say that he really isn't. If he was such a good writer, then he wouldn't have to have one of his characters point out a major theme of his work. Dante, Longfellow, Gibson, Twain, and Vonnegut didn't need characters to explicitly state the theme's of their books to still be able to convene them to the reader

The point isnt competition dude, the idea is that he can use characters to indirectly let the reader know what their role is going to be. The first moment you saw naruto and sasuke (original), you could already tell that these two are like day and night, its not that he wasnt TRYING to get the audience to know that. He stated it in an interview that in his story he split each character into two individuals, (using naruto and sasuke as an example), dont ask for source, im not good with memory on finding those links again.

Sounds like your English teacher asked you to analyze the manga for an essay xD
OT: quite true though, I agree with your point.
not quite, lol its just something i've noticed since the original naruto, :p thanks btw.
 

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The point isnt competition dude, the idea is that he can use characters to indirectly let the reader know what their role is going to be. The first moment you saw naruto and sasuke (original), you could already tell that these two are like day and night, its not that he wasnt TRYING to get the audience to know that. He stated it in an interview that in his story he split each character into two individuals, (using naruto and sasuke as an example), dont ask for source, im not good with memory on finding those links again.
That doesn't make him a good writer though. He made two characters that were clearly opposite in terms of personality and motives and tried to replicate that continuously in the story. He ended up beating a dead horse and killed it when he had Madara make that speech. That isn't good writing
 

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That doesn't make him a good writer though. He made two characters that were clearly opposite in terms of personality and motives and tried to replicate that continuously in the story. He ended up beating a dead horse and killed it when he had Madara make that speech. That isn't good writing

TO me, i find that good. Regardless of spilling the beans, he sitll managed to keep the consistency of the ideal. He isnt trying to hide it or tell it any other way, he's trying to create a world that consists of two elements that will further be of great point ot the ending of the story. It would kind of be a bad move to stop the consistency after that. The story is what it is, its not trying to be anything else but that lol, or be any fancier than it already is
 

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TO me, i find that good. Regardless of spilling the beans, he sitll managed to keep the consistency of the ideal. He isnt trying to hide it or tell it any other way, he's trying to create a world that consists of two elements that will further be of great point ot the ending of the story. It would kind of be a bad move to stop the consistency after that. The story is what it is, its not trying to be anything else but that lol, or be any fancier than it already is

Does your sig ever finish o_O

OT : of course hes smart, hes Asian XD
 

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I'm going to take the other side and say that he really isn't. If he was such a good writer, then he wouldn't have to have one of his characters point out a major theme of his work. Dante, Longfellow, Gibson, Twain, and Vonnegut didn't need characters to explicitly state the theme's of their books to still be able to convene them to the reader
The theme was pretty clear before he made Madara point that out. Maybe since the targeted audience is lower he has to make it a bit easier?
 
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