[Theory] Solution for the Kaguya disaster.
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Hyuga Prodigy
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In this Chapter Kaguya Knew it was Naruto clones all along and Black Zetsu was the one to get fooled however I won't jump to the conclusion until VIZ comes out.
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here's my defense of kaguya.
first off, just because she hasn't done much talking, does not mean she is not intelligent.
the whole point of listening to BZ is because she specifically left him to do her bidding. that included gaining intelligence/information. therefore it would be utterly stupid of her not to listen to him.
as far as motivation goes, sure i can agree that we need that, so no argument there.
as far as saying she's not a goddess because she can run out of energy, that doesn't make sense. never was it said that she is omnipotent, which would be the only way she would never run out of energy. thor can get tired, odin can get tired, zeus can get tired, and so on. once she took the power of the god tree, she became a god herself.
first off, just because she hasn't done much talking, does not mean she is not intelligent.
the whole point of listening to BZ is because she specifically left him to do her bidding. that included gaining intelligence/information. therefore it would be utterly stupid of her not to listen to him.
as far as motivation goes, sure i can agree that we need that, so no argument there.
as far as saying she's not a goddess because she can run out of energy, that doesn't make sense. never was it said that she is omnipotent, which would be the only way she would never run out of energy. thor can get tired, odin can get tired, zeus can get tired, and so on. once she took the power of the god tree, she became a god herself.
Divine Uchiha
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She is wasting her energy dimension hopping when black zetsu told her to save it
dizzynaruto
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She doesn't seem too intelligent to me. She wastes chakra, uses big abilities with almost no strategy to them. It's like Kishi took a character from DBZ and made it fight Nardo&Friends. No strats, just power. I don't care about her character at all. I hope we get more backstory.
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KirIwagakure Nin
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Let naruto and sasuke each get 1 of obito's eyes when he dies and teleports when she teleports and go about there business
good point on bz recording things for her. not sure if she saw them already. it would help fighting against shinobi.
i just reread all the chaps with her in them, went by fast. its only the begining imo.
i just reread all the chaps with her in them, went by fast. its only the begining imo.
Divine Uchiha
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This has to be only the beginning because if it's not what hope do we have for Kaguya as the main villain?And thank you.She hasn't seen them yet because Black Zetsu has to be telling her.
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She actually has been thinking she tells b that she knew naruto had the god amass behind him and she wasn't fooled and he has been speaking telepathically to BZ and she has had many thoughts about naruto and sasuke try to retread and enjoy instead of entering negative
Ultimateone
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also, to further defend kaguya, although she has very little dialogue, it's not necessarily a bad thing. ever since she has been introduced she has done nothing but wreck shit. she may not be having as easy a time as we thought she would, but she still actually doing something instead of whining about another character( madara[hashirama], obito[rin]). just saying.
Kami Powers
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I agree with your solutions and they sound like the most logical thing to include in the story.
First of all what we need as readers are clarifications about her past. Black Zetsu did not explain well who she was. He touched on the Juubi but didn't say much and then he got derailed to a topic about Madara when it could have revealed why and how Kaguya is and what is her ultimate goal. Of course it doesn't need to reveal every detail of their plan that then the main characters could find ways to prevent that goal from being reached. The story of her origins have been changed and now nobody knows for sure how she came to be as she is. Some say she ate a fruit others say she is the progenitor of chakra and that she is the tree who gave birth to a fruit being her sons and another says that she absorbs chakra for her sons depending on the version. I think that is messed up and that we need a clarification on this.
At least apparently her goal is to merge her dimensions with the Naruto world or something and she needs to preserve her chakra for that. And after that what? Will that make Earth a heaven? Will that open up a portal to yet another dimension to fight with another entity since she is making an army?
I would love to see her fighting and coordinating on her own and making her own explainations instead of black zetsu telling her what to do. Personally I don't see her as a villain. I see her like an extra piece of information about the origins of everthing. I think like Madara she has a goal and she is not entirly malevolent like the manga might make you believe she is. She is attempting to do good in her own way.
Also if Naruto is nearing it's end Kishi should use his pannels wisely I see him wasting too much panels and entire chapters on things that are irrelevant. He could have already explain Kaguya's origins and Hamura's story but has decided not to do that. He keeps changing and adding things that complicates the story and does not clear up. If he finishes his manga this year he will leave a lot of loose ends.
First of all what we need as readers are clarifications about her past. Black Zetsu did not explain well who she was. He touched on the Juubi but didn't say much and then he got derailed to a topic about Madara when it could have revealed why and how Kaguya is and what is her ultimate goal. Of course it doesn't need to reveal every detail of their plan that then the main characters could find ways to prevent that goal from being reached. The story of her origins have been changed and now nobody knows for sure how she came to be as she is. Some say she ate a fruit others say she is the progenitor of chakra and that she is the tree who gave birth to a fruit being her sons and another says that she absorbs chakra for her sons depending on the version. I think that is messed up and that we need a clarification on this.
At least apparently her goal is to merge her dimensions with the Naruto world or something and she needs to preserve her chakra for that. And after that what? Will that make Earth a heaven? Will that open up a portal to yet another dimension to fight with another entity since she is making an army?
I would love to see her fighting and coordinating on her own and making her own explainations instead of black zetsu telling her what to do. Personally I don't see her as a villain. I see her like an extra piece of information about the origins of everthing. I think like Madara she has a goal and she is not entirly malevolent like the manga might make you believe she is. She is attempting to do good in her own way.
Also if Naruto is nearing it's end Kishi should use his pannels wisely I see him wasting too much panels and entire chapters on things that are irrelevant. He could have already explain Kaguya's origins and Hamura's story but has decided not to do that. He keeps changing and adding things that complicates the story and does not clear up. If he finishes his manga this year he will leave a lot of loose ends.
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SkyGodHorus
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Lol somebody's certainly high on themselves.
I'm mixed with her. I liked her design, story with the Shinju and introduction, but since then, yes, she's become a bit one-dimensional. I'd say her backstory and race will probably be revealed soon, but that either Madara or Black Zetsu will wind up taking her over. Some still even think Orochimaru is still in the picture and may eat the fruit lols.
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I think that kaguya is not stupid.
Is bz who is stupid. He's the one who always states something and it's wrong.
I think the reason kaguya killed naruto is because she knew he was a clone, and bz has no idea what's going on. We have already seen her getting emotional about trying to kill naruto and sasuke. So why would she kill them so smoothly now?
Or that she is only becoming the main villain to make naruto and sasuke fight together to defend the world and making them better people.
Is bz who is stupid. He's the one who always states something and it's wrong.
I think the reason kaguya killed naruto is because she knew he was a clone, and bz has no idea what's going on. We have already seen her getting emotional about trying to kill naruto and sasuke. So why would she kill them so smoothly now?
Or that she is only becoming the main villain to make naruto and sasuke fight together to defend the world and making them better people.