Koto Amatsukami is over hyped.

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The whole thing is a mistake. You clearly misunderstood the thread. Byakugan guy suggested it was KA and as soon as he did Mifune was no longer in danger. If an oppenet is aware of KA beforehand it is easily countered.

@BOLD i disagree, Danzo knew that about Shisuis visual prowess and yet he was still determined to get his Sharingun, he attempted to steal at and while doing that he also said 'When the time came he would use it on him' why would he make this statement if he knew the effects of it?

Thus proving that having knowledge alone is not enough. :)
 

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@BOLD i disagree, Danzo knew that about Shisuis visual prowess and yet he was still determined to get his Sharingun, he attempted to steal at and while doing that he also said 'When the time came he would use it on him' why would he make this statement if he knew the effects of it?

Thus proving that having knowledge alone is not enough. :)

That was not canon either.:| Also Danzo doesnt know the limits of KA at that point in time.
 

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KA

solos your fav
 

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KA already soloed Itachi in the Naruto & B vs Nagato & Itachi fight
 
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I don't see how it is. There is no known counter in a one on one fight
 

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Yes but did you take into account the fact that Danzō literally solos all your favorite characters?
 

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^No one above read the post.
 

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It makes sense, but I think that the problem is that you need to know that you're actually in the justu by someone else telling you or releasing you.

KA basically makes you believe whatever it is they want you to think so you actually think that it's your thoughts. Why would you doubt your own thoughts?
 

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sigh. I make a completely factual thread.....no results.
 

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If people had to choose between non canon and your speculation, then I think we would all go with non canon, so therefore the Jutsu is still Op

Thats understandable i just wanted to point out something people hadn't noticed.
 

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Kotoamatsukami is pretty powerful...

The reason Mifune was freed was because Danzo freed him. I know Itachi programmed the crow's KA to command only "Protect Konoha" , but that doesn't mean Danzo was not controlling Mifune sort of like mind transfer where you can make the person do multiple things before the jutsu is undone.

I think Danzo was using KA the whole time (rather than just give Mifune one command). My thought is that Danzo was using KA and still controlling Mifune and feeding him things to say in his mind up until AO started explaining the jutsu and Mifune snapped out of it.

As you could see , Mifune performed more than just one argument during his time being under KA. He not only pointed out the flaws of each Kage and their village, but he also recommended Danzo for the role as Leader.

Some could argue KA still had a lasting effect on Mifune because after AO's intervention, Mifune still alluded to wanting Danzo to be the leader of the alliance in the first place.

Itachi only gave 'his' KA one command because it was in a small crows body and there wouldn't have really been need to order anything more than that because all he wanted was for Sasuke to protect konoha. Even if Obito told Sasuke about Itachi's secret, Sasuke probably would've blown it off (like he did in the cave initially) as Obito "Madara" telling lies. Its still just a genjutsu overall, so its not unstoppable.

Some people think you don't need eye contact for it to work on your target. I think its more like a stealth jutsu , as in hiding in trees or something when your opponent doesn't know your there.

The big plus about it is, unlike the sleep genjutsu Kabuto used at the stadium where Gai and Kakashi & Sakura noticed and released the genjutsu, Kotoamatsukami works like its your own brain's ideas as opposed to just following orders. Or unlike Itachi's genjutsu where he told Kabuto to show him the signs to undo the edo tensei, KA doesn't require the user to speak at all. They can just think commands, and there you have it.
 
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Mifune only began to doubt when Ao informed him of Shisui's eye technique. If he hadn't been made aware of it, he would have remained under its effect.

What makes Kotoamatsuki so dangerous is the fact that it doesn't change victims into mindless drones. It makes them think they're executing ideas they've come up with on their own. That's so much more dangerous as it's impossible to detect without prior knowledge. It's pretty much like Aizen's shikai ability, though not quite as stupidly overpowered. Think of it as super charged power of suggestion like the Force.
 

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lel Danzo simply stopped with the Genjutsu cuz he was debunked
 

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I disagree. KA is not over hyped. look at the quotes in your scan.

"its one of the most powerful eye techniques, his opponents would not even realize they are being controlled"

"Shisui had the power to get into his opponents mind and control them"


overhyped? no. just because it can be countered does not mean its overhyped. and besides in a real combat situation, or a 1 v 1, it would be alot harder to tell you are being controlled.
This exactly
 

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It makes sense, but I think that the problem is that you need to know that you're actually in the justu by someone else telling you or releasing you.

KA basically makes you believe whatever it is they want you to think so you actually think that it's your thoughts. Why would you doubt your own thoughts?

Like in the new Robocop movie ^^ (when someone knows what i mean)

KA no conter #1 Genjutsu

and notic even Danzo was so powerful with this Jutsu, how would Shisui be with two MS and as an original User....
 
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