non jin madara vs current sasuke

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conditions: this is madara with no jiubi but he has 2 rinningan and sm ,and can use all hashirama’s techs(even the buddaha) ,ps,summoning the gedo mazu,multiple ct and 4 limbo clones ,preta path and any rinningan tech he has showed
intel: manga intel
who wins?
 

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Sasuke stomps.

-He is far superior in speed since he casually blitzed and bisected Jin Madara.

-He's already shown that he can cut up Jin Madara's Chibaku Tensei, so a weaker version's isn't going to an issue.

-Perfect Susanoo tanks all assaults from Madara's Limbo Clones, and Sasuke demolishes Madara's Perfect Susanoo, cuts through his Chibaku Tensei and any Mokuton jutsu that he might use, and bisects him.

Or Sasuke uses his Rinnegan S/T Jutsu and blitz kills Madara.
 

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Sasuke stomps.

-He is far superior in speed since he casually blitzed and bisected Jin Madara.

-He's already shown that he can cut up Jin Madara's Chibaku Tensei, so a weaker version's isn't going to an issue.

-Perfect Susanoo tanks all assaults from Madara's Limbo Clones, and Sasuke demolishes Madara's Perfect Susanoo, cuts through his Chibaku Tensei and any Mokuton jutsu that he might use, and bisects him.

Or Sasuke uses his Rinnegan S/T Jutsu and blitz kills Madara.
first it is manga intel so madara knows about sasuke s/t and speed

so madara will just keep his ps opened and makes sasuke s/t jutsu useless

how will sasuke demolish madara’s ps while sasuke’s most destructive power is another ps !!?
please, dont tell me that sasuke’s ps is superior since manga didnt show any sign of that so their ps are most likely equals
madara ’s using his ps,buddaha,multiple asteriods,gedo mazu,4 limbo clones and other mouktun techs(wooden dragon,the flower of the world and wooden biju) at the same time ,that will surly destroy sasuke susano
 
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first it is manga intel so madara knows about sasuke s/t and speed

so madara will just keep his ps opened and makes sasuke s/t jutsu useless
Um, ok.

how will sasuke demolish madara’s ps while sasuke’s most destructive power is another ps !!?
please, dont tell me that sasuke’s ps is superior since manga didnt show any sign of that so their ps are most likely equals
madara ’s using his ps,buddaha,multiple asteriods,gedo mazu,4 limbo clones and other mouktun techs(wooden dragon,the flower of the world and wooden biju) at the same time ,that will surly destroy sasuke susano
Sasuke cut up rocks that were the size of the Shinju's trunk, which is also larger than the area inside the barrier, where Madara's PS and Hashirama's Mokujin were fighting. [ ] CT rocks are far more durable than Mountains of the same size, considering Nagato's incomplete CT tanked KN6's Bijuu Dama with zero noticeable damage. This is far above Chojo Kebutsu, which destroyed Madara's Susanoo. He chops Madara's Susanoo up.

Not only does Madara not have the chakra feats to use all those jutsu at the same time, Sasuke would simply fly through each one, and cut it down, even if Madara could do that at the same time.
 

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So basically edo madara minus edo with sage mode?

Current Sasuke decimates gg.

EMS Sasuke could be argued.
Yeah no, EMS Sasuke is not beating a double Rinnegan Madara. Especially if he is allowed to use SM.

EMS Sasuke > Blind SM Madara.
EMS Sasuke =< SM w/ 1 Rinnegan Madara.
EMS Sasuke <<< Double Rinnegan Madara.

OT: Current Sasuke wrecks him, Limbo is definitely a threat but Sasuke should be capable of clearing this up with PS.
 
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Yeah no, EMS Sasuke is not beating a double Rinnegan Madara. Especially if he is allowed to use SM.

EMS Sasuke > Blind SM Madara.
EMS Sasuke =< SM w/ 1 Rinnegan Madara.
EMS Sasuke <<< Double Rinnegan Madara.

OT: Current Sasuke wrecks him, Limbo is definitely a threat but Sasuke should be capable of clearing this up with PS.
Blind SM Madara > EMS Sasuke.
1 SM Rinnegan Madara > EMS Sasuke. Neg diff. Its canon
Double Rinnegan non jin Madara > 99% Narutoverse.
 

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Um, ok.



Sasuke cut up rocks that were the size of the Shinju's trunk, which is also larger than the area inside the barrier, where Madara's PS and Hashirama's Mokujin were fighting. [ ] CT rocks are far more durable than Mountains of the same size, considering Nagato's incomplete CT tanked KN6's Bijuu Dama with zero noticeable damage. This is far above Chojo Kebutsu, which destroyed Madara's Susanoo. He chops Madara's Susanoo up.

Not only does Madara not have the chakra feats to use all those jutsu at the same time, Sasuke would simply fly through each one, and cut it down, even if Madara could do that at the same time.
sasuke cut these rocks by direct hit with susano sword ,but madara cut about five mountains kilo metres away by just waving his ps sword (when ems madara fought hashirama) that means that his sword effect range is kilo metres in every direction ,so i think he can do what sasuke did

again there are no manga fact that sasuke’s ps is superior to madara’s

where in the manga did nagato’ ct tanked biju doma ?

madara’s ps has clearly wings too ,see when madara opened it against kages

so that part of sasuke flying over his ps is nonsense

conclusion:madara’s ps alone can make equal fight with sasuke’s ps and sasuke s/t isnt factor while madara uses ps ,amatrasu and enton can be absorbed by preta path
so madara without using any of hashirama techs , ct ,the mazo or the limbo,can counter all sasuke high techs
add hashirama buddaha ,multiple asteriods ,limbo and the mazo ,and madara wins
sasuke cant deal with all that at the same time with ps while madara has ps too (of course ,sasuke scan deal with this attacks individually but not at the same time)
madara with his base chakra can use ps ,limbo,ct at the same time ,add hashirama cells and sm and he will be able to use budaha and other wooden techs like hashirama does
 

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Yeah no, EMS Sasuke is not beating a double Rinnegan Madara. Especially if he is allowed to use SM.

EMS Sasuke > Blind SM Madara.
EMS Sasuke =< SM w/ 1 Rinnegan Madara.
EMS Sasuke <<< Double Rinnegan Madara.

OT: Current Sasuke wrecks him, Limbo is definitely a threat but Sasuke should be capable of clearing this up with PS.
i cant believe that you think ems sasuke is as strong as sm 1 riningan madara
this madara stomped him neg diff in one panel in the manga without even using any sm tech
 

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sm 2 riningan madara is so underrated espaicially when he being compared with current sasukr and naruto
1 riningan madara beat bm naruto ,bm bee and all other bijus no diff with just limbo and gedo without using ps ,ct or hashirama techs
he beat ems sasuke, edo tobirama and edo hashirama in nearly no panels
 

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i cant believe that you think ems sasuke is as strong as sm 1 riningan madara
this madara stomped him neg diff in one panel in the manga without even using any sm tech
When Sasuke engaged Madara both times he never used Susano'o. He could have lasted longer if he fought going all out. I think Sasuke stands a chance, Madara is still superior.


SM Double Rinnegan Madara is not underrated, both Naruto and Sasuke have DC capable of destroying meteorites that dwarf mountain ranges. He also has inferior sensing abilities to his Juubi Jin self, he was having trouble keeping up with Sasuke.

SM Double Rinnegan Madara wipes out Juubito, 8th Gate Gai and Double MS Obito. He is definitely powerful.
 
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Madara low diff.

-Sasuke's Susanoo wont do anything to the fusion of perfect Susanoo and Ashura's cloak: [ ]. It's been stated that Madara possessed Indra's power and Ashura's power which lead to him awakening Hagoromo's power. Through that, he will replicate their feats at hand. Given also the fact, that doubles his Susanoo's power beyond Sasuke's.

-Sasuke's teleportation doesn't mean anything. Madara had enough time to turn to Sasuke's side and complete his sentence, all at the same time while Sasuke was still using his teleportation. Clear indication he seen and reacted to the attack, though he let Sasuke cut through him since Rinnegan was more important. Even if he ends up being cut, Asura path regenerates him.

Chibaku Tensei's scale can be replaced with Asura path's rockets, and you have a blast that penetrates through Sasuke's PS. Once that happens, Limbo or Human path kills him.​
 

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Madara low diff.

-Sasuke's Susanoo wont do anything to the fusion of perfect Susanoo and Ashura's cloak: [ ]. It's been stated that Madara possessed Indra's power and Ashura's power which lead to him awakening Hagoromo's power. Through that, he will replicate their feats at hand. Given also the fact, that doubles his Susanoo's power beyond Sasuke's.

-Sasuke's teleportation doesn't mean anything. Madara had enough time to turn to Sasuke's side and complete his sentence, all at the same time while Sasuke was still using his teleportation. Clear indication he seen and reacted to the attack, though he let Sasuke cut through him since Rinnegan was more important. Even if he ends up being cut, Asura path regenerates him.

Chibaku Tensei's scale can be replaced with Asura path's rockets, and you have a blast that penetrates through Sasuke's PS. Once that happens, Limbo or Human path kills him.​
I second this
 

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Madara low diff.

-Sasuke's Susanoo wont do anything to the fusion of perfect Susanoo and Ashura's cloak: [ ]. It's been stated that Madara possessed Indra's power and Ashura's power which lead to him awakening Hagoromo's power. Through that, he will replicate their feats at hand. Given also the fact, that doubles his Susanoo's power beyond Sasuke's.

-Sasuke's teleportation doesn't mean anything. Madara had enough time to turn to Sasuke's side and complete his sentence, all at the same time while Sasuke was still using his teleportation. Clear indication he seen and reacted to the attack, though he let Sasuke cut through him since Rinnegan was more important. Even if he ends up being cut, Asura path regenerates him.

Chibaku Tensei's scale can be replaced with Asura path's rockets, and you have a blast that penetrates through Sasuke's PS.
Once that happens, Limbo or Human path kills him.​
So we're using fanfic power now? Asura path penetrates PS? It wouldn't even break v2.
 

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Madara low diff.

-Sasuke's Susanoo wont do anything to the fusion of perfect Susanoo and Ashura's cloak: [ ]. It's been stated that Madara possessed Indra's power and Ashura's power which lead to him awakening Hagoromo's power. Through that, he will replicate their feats at hand. Given also the fact, that doubles his Susanoo's power beyond Sasuke's.

-Sasuke's teleportation doesn't mean anything. Madara had enough time to turn to Sasuke's side and complete his sentence, all at the same time while Sasuke was still using his teleportation. Clear indication he seen and reacted to the attack, though he let Sasuke cut through him since Rinnegan was more important. Even if he ends up being cut, Asura path regenerates him.

Chibaku Tensei's scale can be replaced with Asura path's rockets, and you have a blast that penetrates through Sasuke's PS. Once that happens, Limbo or Human path kills him.​

Your fanfic take the cake by far
 

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So we're using fanfic power now? Asura path penetrates PS? It wouldn't even break v2.
Manga facts are not fan-fic: [ ]. Madara uses what ever in Hagoromo's arsenal that composes of Indra and Ashura. Like it or not, it's not my problem.​
 

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You see; Current Sasuke has been given the power of the Sage which also holds both Ashura and the original untainted power of Indra; Doubling Sasuke's corrupted chakra of Indra (Which Madara shares,) while also having Ashura's power. With this, he will be able to use all of his techniques on a scale three to four times what he really has displayed.


Given the fact that he can teleport something such as an Enton sword into Madara's eye, combat Limbo's, and even can use Infinite Tsukuyomi now. . I don't see how he loses this. He's practically the closest thing to Kaguya now. Something Madara tried but later was overcome by the power. Sasuke's just a superior combatant. Especially when we go off of my original story labeled "The Curse of Hatred," where he is able to use all of the paths abilities. As I have sent this to Kishi, I assume it is canon. Now, with all of these abiltiies heightened four times of Nagato's best feats Sasuke will be sending down casual mountain busting rockets, along with a metallic Susano'o. A fusion of the Asura path and Pefect Susano'o.

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Not to mention that Sasuke's dimension hoping, something he copied from Kaguya, will allow him to throw Madara into any dimension and surprise attack him. Sasuke's just got too many powers saved up that he is waiting for Naruto, too. Including a "White" Amaterasu that is said to burn through an entire God in my other story, "Lord of the Eye,". Also published and sent to Kishi.
 
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