Well, nice analysis, but still incomplete. Where did Hagoromo get that chakra to begin with? How did he get it? The answer to these two question are the real source of Rinnegan.
Maybe on how Hagomoro received the Rinnegan, but not how Madara did.
The mixing of Ashura's chakra and Indra's awakens the Rinnegan. As of now, only the Uchiha have managed to do that. We still don't know if it is possible for the other transmigrate (i.e. Naruto or Hashirama) to have been able to do it as well.
Well you got a couple of things wrong that I want to clarify.
Madara did not believe EMS was the next step to the rinnegan, everyone else thought he did.
Madara sacrificed his brothers right eye for inzanagi, so when he implanted his original pairs of eyes he awaken the rinnegan and gave it to Nagato (like zetsu stated).
So in the cave, the spare left eye old Madara had when he met Obito was his brothers eyes (left EMS).
In other words, Madara ms turned into the rinnegan.
2. The mixing of both incarnations is not manditory for awakening the rinnegan, it's achieving a few the sage's chakra himself that always this to happen.
Remember that Black zetsu changed the tablet and used all the past incarnates to fuse Indra/Ashura's chakra to get the rinnegan.
All have failed except for Madara.
So mixing Indra and Ashura's chakra doesn't guarantee the rinnegan, only Madara successfully did this.
All that matters really is getting the sage's chakra to awaken the rinnegan, by being the juubi's jinchuuriki you can get the sage's chakra too.
In fact it's even closer, but it doesn't guarantee the rinnegan as well.
It has already been stated by Hagomoro himself that mixing the chakra of both Indra and Ashura awaken's the Rinnegan.
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Here is what we know so far to be true about the Rinnegan:
1. It is considered the most powerful of the three ocular jutsus. 2. Hagomoro was the first to have possessed the eyes. 3. It requires the mixing of Ashura's and Indra's chakra to awaken Hagomoro's chakra thus, awakening the Rinnegan. 4. Madara was the first to awakened. 5. Sasuke is the second to have awakened.
Both Sasuke and Madara basically received the opposite of their chakra, thus awakening their Rinnegan.
I don't see where you're getting that Ashura's and Indra's chakra isn't mandatory for awakening the eye.
It has already been stated by Hagomoro himself that mixing the chakra of both Indra and Ashura awaken's the Rinnegan.
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Here is what we know so far to be true about the Rinnegan:
1. It is considered the most powerful of the three ocular jutsus. 2. Hagomoro was the first to have possessed the eyes. 3. It requires the mixing of Ashura's and Indra's chakra to awaken Hagomoro's chakra thus, awakening the Rinnegan. 4. Madara was the first to awakened. 5. Sasuke is the second to have awakened.
Both Sasuke and Madara basically received the opposite of their chakra, thus awakening their Rinnegan.
I don't see where you're getting that Ashura's and Indra's chakra isn't mandatory for awakening the eye.
It's not. It's literally stated in your scan that Hagoromo's chakra is required. You get that it's gg. You get Rinnegan. Indra is his Yin while Ashura Yang both complete his chakra, but if you just get Hagormo's complete chakra it's the same thing.
Did you even care to read what I had posted and to what I was referring to?
I never stated that Hagomoro's chakra is not required to achieve the Rinnegan (had you actually read my post you'd see that). What I did state was that the only way to unlock the Rinnegan is to mix the chakra of both Ashura and Indra. The mixing of those two will lead to Hagomoro's chakra being present, which as stated, unlock the Rinnegan.
Did you even care to read what I had posted and to what I was referring to?
I never stated that Hagomoro's chakra is not required to achieve the Rinnegan (had you actually read my post you'd see that). What I did state was that the only way to unlock the Rinnegan is to mix the chakra of both Ashura and Indra. The mixing of those two will lead to Hagomoro's chakra being present, which as stated, unlock the Rinnegan.
Yes. Did you even read what I put... I didn't deny that. I said it is not required. You can get the Rinnegan that way, or from just Hagoromo's Chakra if you were to acquire it. It's the same damn chakra.
Yes. Did you even read what I put... I didn't deny that. I said it is not required. You can get the Rinnegan that way, or from just Hagoromo's Chakra if you were to acquire it. It's the same damn chakra.
This is all hypothetically and technically. Arguably a Juubi Jin might be able to as it's close chakra in comparison or Maybe if he visited you in your "dreams".
This is all hypothetically and technically. Arguably a Juubi Jin might be able to as it's close chakra in comparison or Maybe if he visited you in your "dreams".
Pretty sure Hago said certain transmigrants are able to meet him. It may nave happened in the past with others but none were mentioned.
As far as awakening the Rinnegan I think that the person needs to be a transmigrant to awaken rinnegan. Just anyone recieving hago chakra isnt going to awaken it. Its possible that an ashura transmigrant can get rinnegan if they took indras trans. eyes.
Orochimaru/Kabuto's investigation did their research, and Madara also experimented gaining his own conclusions about the Rinnegan.
Kabuto's conclusions:
Madara's conclusions:
Madara had enough arrogance to confront Kabuto's ingenuity and speaks about the Rinnegan as a power that belongs to the Uchiha Clan, since he alluded to the Uchiha Monument.
Summarizing: These two thought that the next step of EMS was the Rinnegan, adding Senju DNA.
They were fundamentally wrong. The answer to the awakening of the Rinnegan was having Indra's and Ashura's chakra. This is what we learn in the last chapters!
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Using this logic, and funny thinking: You don't even need a Sharingan to get the Rinnegan, do you?
- Ashura's last transmigrant is Uzumaki. What if Indra's transmigrant was a Hyuuga and this Hyuuga used Naruto's flesh to awake... a Rinnegan? Logic fits, because the requirement is not DNA, it is only the chakra of Indra and Ashura.
Conclusion: Rinnegan is a trait that is manifested when Hagoromo's chakra is present in someone. This quite explains why the plothole of Madara using Izanagi losing his eye, and then magically he got both Rinnegan... it's because the eyes are not important in the process of awakening, the important thing is the chakra of the transmigrants!
It makes sense because the rinnegan really isn't a power that can be awoken. It's not like a sharingan turns into a rinnegan under normal circumstances (the way a normal sharigan "levels up" into an MS and then EMS under specific conditions).
So the Rinnegan isn't just "Sharingan Level 4", it really is a manifestation of the power of the holy tree, as hagoromo was born with. Only by awakening Hagoromo's holy-tree chakra do the sharingan appear. I suspect that the owner wouldn't need to have sharingan (or byakugan) at all, so long as the chakra was right.
