[Theory] Byakugan ▣ A True Power

[Shinato]

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True power lies in the eyes of the beholder.​ What is this about?​ This is a theory/discussion thread around the power of the Byakugan and how it seems to have retained its original power throughout the course of time. Compared to the Rinnegan and Sharingan which both weaken over the course of generations. Power shall wither away with time.​ There are three Eye Techniques/Abilities that which we know if the Narutoverse, yet we don't have a whole lot of information on neither of them and the one we have the most on is the Sharingan. Now the three that we know of are the following: Sharingan Byakugan Rinnegan The Sharingan and Byakugan both originates from the same person, Princess Kaguya Ōtsutsuki. However we also know that she only possessed the Byakugan at some point, as she awaken the Sharingan after eating the fruit of the Shinju. (Which is truly were the Sharingan originates from, however Kaguya was the first person to wield it.) During Part 1, Kakashi Hatake stated that the origins and secrets of the Sharingan was held within the origin of the Byakugan. This has been proven correct, and we know that the Byakugan was the first of the three to ever be used by a humanoid. Kaguya passed her Eye Powers down into her sons, one obtained the powerful Rinnegan and the other obtained the Byakugan. This means that the origins of the Rinnegan lies within the Sharingan which Kaguya obtained from the Shinju. The Rinnegan later devolved into the normal Sharingan which we all know when Hagoromo had kids of his own. However what happen to Hamura and the Byakugan, we don't know. The only thing which we know of these eyes are that they still exist within the Hyuuga clan. We've seen with our own eyes that the original Sharingan has been weaken greatly over time, from the one Kaguya held, to Hagoromo's Sharingan and then to Indra's Sharingan. But what of Kaguya's original power, the Byakugan? Over the course of time, it never withered in power as far as we've seen. (Seeing how Kaguya haven't used the Byakugan any more advanced than Hinata or Neji.) Does this mean that the Byakugan was never really powerful, or does it mean that the Byakugan holds power which we have yet to see? A power that can rival the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan perhaps? Is it simply a eye with good vision, or does it serve another purpose? I believe that the ones that awaken the true power of the Byakugan will be able to do great things, and the only ones which are able to awaken this power are the members of the main branch in the Hyuuga, namely Hinata Hyuuga. In most mythologies, the all seeing eye or the third eye is commonly placed in the forehead where Kaguya's Sharingan sits. However, what if Kishimoto based the Byakugan of this idea? A eye which can see everything, a eye which cannot be blinded, a eye which cannot be close with darkness, the Byakugan.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Rinnegan>Byakugan

 

[Shinato]

Rinnegan>Byakugan

You're so certain? The Byakugan is older, and it may contain more power than we know, not to mention that we know close to nothing about it nor about the secrets of the Hyuuga clan.

 

[Sound]

I really hope that what you say happens. Byakugan needs another secret power. Nice post format

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

You're so certain? The Byakugan is older, and it may contain more power than we know, not to mention that we know close to nothing about it nor about the secrets of the Hyuuga clan.

If its true then only Kaguya and Hamura will posses its "true power"
The rest of the hyuga are fodder

 

[HENI]

Byakugan has the most insight, thats it.

 

[Shinato]

If its true then only Kaguya and Hamura will posses its "true power"
The rest of the hyuga are fodder

The Huuyga places a curse mark on anyone but the main branch, which is most likely to avoid them gaining the true power of their eyes. So the ones that can awaken and gain the true power is only members of the Main Branch, meaning Hinata, Kaguya and Hamura.

 

[Shinato]

Byakugan has the most insight, thats it.

That is why I stated that it may be a metaphor for the All Seeing Eye. For all we know, the true power of the Byakugan may be able to see things no one else can even phantom. Such as the future, emotions, thoughts or something else.

 

[ultraChalk]

I wouldn't mind Kaguya showing something new from Byakugan.

 

[FunkyFatal]

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True power lies in the eyes of the beholder.​ What is this about?​ This is a theory/discussion thread around the power of the Byakugan and how it seems to have retained its original power throughout the course of time. Compared to the Rinnegan and Sharingan which both weaken over the course of generations. Power shall wither away with time.​ There are three Eye Techniques/Abilities that which we know if the Narutoverse, yet we don't have a whole lot of information on neither of them and the one we have the most on is the Sharingan. Now the three that we know of are the following: Sharingan Byakugan Rinnegan The Sharingan and Byakugan both originates from the same person, Princess Kaguya Ōtsutsuki. However we also know that she only possessed the Byakugan at some point, as she awaken the Sharingan after eating the fruit of the Shinju. (Which is truly were the Sharingan originates from, however Kaguya was the first person to wield it.) During Part 1, Kakashi Hatake stated that the origins and secrets of the Sharingan was held within the origin of the Byakugan. This has been proven correct, and we know that the Byakugan was the first of the three to ever be used by a humanoid. Kaguya passed her Eye Powers down into her sons, one obtained the powerful Rinnegan and the other obtained the Byakugan. This means that the origins of the Rinnegan lies within the Sharingan which Kaguya obtained from the Shinju. The Rinnegan later devolved into the normal Sharingan which we all know when Hagoromo had kids of his own. However what happen to Hamura and the Byakugan, we don't know. The only thing which we know of these eyes are that they still exist within the Hyuuga clan. We've seen with our own eyes that the original Sharingan has been weaken greatly over time, from the one Kaguya held, to Hagoromo's Sharingan and then to Indra's Sharingan. But what of Kaguya's original power, the Byakugan? Over the course of time, it never withered in power as far as we've seen. (Seeing how Kaguya haven't used the Byakugan any more advanced than Hinata or Neji.) Does this mean that the Byakugan was never really powerful, or does it mean that the Byakugan holds power which we have yet to see? A power that can rival the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan perhaps? Is it simply a eye with good vision, or does it serve another purpose? I believe that the ones that awaken the true power of the Byakugan will be able to do great things, and the only ones which are able to awaken this power are the members of the main branch in the Hyuuga, namely Hinata Hyuuga. In most mythologies, the all seeing eye or the third eye is commonly placed in the forehead where Kaguya's Sharingan sits. However, what if Kishimoto based the Byakugan of this idea? A eye which can see everything, a eye which cannot be blinded, a eye which cannot be close with darkness, the Byakugan.

Nice i totally thought of everything u mentioned here but never had the time to make a thread on it. It all makes perfect sense. I believe the sharingan falls towards darkness and looses it light, where as the byakugan see's all and never loses it light. There like opposites but connected in a way. (like yin-yang lol)

 

[Shinato]

Nice i totally thought of everything u mentioned here but never had the time to make a thread on it. It all makes perfect sense. I believe the sharingan falls towards darkness and looses it light, where as the byakugan see's all and never loses it light. There like opposites but connected in a way. (like yin-yang lol)

The Sharingan, a eye lost in darkness and can only grow within it but if its not strong enough it will lose its light forever. The Byakugan, a eye filled with light and will never go lost in darkness, a eye that beholds the world as it is and its secrets. The all seeing eye. Together they form the powers of Yin and Yang, a cruel and destructive power and a warm and passive power combined within the same being of Kaguya.

 

[AsianPr0d1gY]

Maybe the byakugan will help Hinata free herself from IT, who knows. We just have to wait and find out what Kishi has in store for us.

 

[FunkyFatal]

The Sharingan, a eye lost in darkness and can only grow within it but if its not strong enough it will lose its light forever. The Byakugan, a eye filled with light and will never go lost in darkness, a eye that beholds the world as it is and its secrets. The all seeing eye. Together they form the powers of Yin and Yang, a cruel and destructive power and a warm and passive power combined within the same being of Kaguya.

Yep this is the way i've though it was too and it makes perfect sense. lol kishi thought of some deep stuff

*Nice observation man

 

[Ashura San]

This is good.
But you confuse when you say her original power. There was no power the fruit.
The Byagugan is so weak compared the other eyes because they are just human eyes enhanced with chakra.

The Sharingan and Rinnegan came from a God Tree. It only makes sense.

Her Byagugan were just eyes before she ate the fruit. It got its name after the fruit was consumed.

As stated by the manga, chakra did not exist before the fruit was consumed. The chakra enhances the eyes already possessed abilities.

360° vision is just enhanced peripheral vision.
Seeing farther distance/ microscopic sight is just enhanced vision.

 

[yoshimitsu]

lame font, should not have to try to make out the words when reading.

 

[Shinato]

This is good.
But you confuse when you say her original power. There was no power the fruit.
The Byagugan is so weak compared the other eyes because they are just human eyes enhanced with chakra.

The Sharingan and Rinnegan came from a God Tree. It only makes sense.

Her Byagugan were just eyes before she ate the fruit. It got its name after the fruit was consumed.

As stated by the manga, chakra did not exist before the fruit was consumed. The chakra enhances the eyes already possessed abilities.

360° vision is just enhanced peripheral vision.
Seeing farther distance/ microscopic sight is just enhanced vision.

There is no proof that goes against or for that she had the Byakugan prior to eating the fruit. It is also a bit of a mystery of she ever ate the fruit or if she really originated from it in the first place. (Quoting theories about her being the Shinju from the start.) That is fully possible and if it is, then she always had the Byakugan and every thing originally oriented from her. Also, chakra must have existed prior to her eating the fruit. For the simple reason that when a human is drained completely of chakra, they die as seen when the Shinju drains the Alliance. Not to mention that chakra is made up of spiritual power and physical power. Imagination and the body, meaning that if chakra didn't exist prior to Kaguya eating the fruit then neither did bodies or imaginations. (Which makes no sense as humans did exist prior to this.)

 

[Shinato]

lame font, should not have to try to make out the words when reading.

I have partially bad vision and I am able to easily make out this font and size. (It is Verdana font with size 1.) Technically speaking, the use of the word "lame" isn't really fitting in your comment. It would have been more fitting if you used the word "bad" as you have problems reading it. "Lame" would be more fitting if you just think the font looks boring or directly un-interesting. (Such as I find the default font.)

 

[yoshimitsu]

can't read what you replied but I can only assume it's your justification.

 

[Shinato]

can't read what you replied but I can only assume it's your justification.

If you have nothing to add, then avoid posting in this thread in the future. Also, I am assuming that you were able to read the first sentence of my reply, figured it was a bad excuse by your standards and went ahead and posted a meaningless post without reading the rest of my reply.

 

[jiraiya nindo]

Byakugan is the only eye that can see the chakra points and close them too. That is the most overhaxxed power in the manga. With the chakra points closed, the affected ninja has no chance to realistically continue to fight.

With all fairness, Madara could also see the chakra points in Gai with his rinnegan but it is unknown if he couldve closed or affected the chakra points, as a byakugan user would've been able to do.

And we know, the sharingan is used more for its predictive and memorization/imitation skills than anything else. The sharingan can also see chakra but not the chakra points.

So, it's kinda a toss up. The byakugan is stronger than the sharingan, IMO, until it evolves into the EMS. After that, esp when EMS becomes rinnegan, then its more of a toss up.