This chapter confirmed what I said a long time ago about Naruto

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Didn't Black Zetsu explicitly say that she cannot continue fighting the way she is as it's going to end up tiring her? If she could spam that dimension tech and had a fast recovery, Black zetsu wouldn't of brought it up.

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Naruto's chakra levels replenishes fast as well. This is Naruto we're talking about.

He has 9 Bijuu and Uzumaki life force combined with Ashura and the sage's blessing.

He can afford to use Kage Bunshin the same way he's been going about doing it. If you wanna talk about a waste of chakra look at Sasuke spamming his justus trying to escape a dimension.

Are you telling me that Naruto knows all this? You can't be serious Lol ... And you're actually suggesting that Naruto can replenish chakra faster than Kaguya? I don't care even if it's an implicature, but it's saddening.

Sasuke knows he has to get out. We didn't even see him spam anything. So where did you get that spam thing from?
 

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Are you telling me that Naruto knows all this? You can't be serious Lol ... And you're actually suggesting that Naruto can replenish chakra faster than Kaguya? I don't care even if it's an implicature, but it's saddening.

Sasuke knows he has to get out. We didn't even see him spam anything. So where did you get that spam thing from?

If Kaguya suddenly stops spamming her dimension warps, Naruto or all his other 9 bijuu are obviously going to figure out something it up.

Also, Where the hell am I suggesting Naruto can replenish faster than Kaguya? don't insinuate that i'm doing so when i'm not. I said Naruto can replenish his chakra fast as well. Never said it was at Kaguya's level or anything of the sort.

He's saying nothing I do works and she sweating heavily. Try to figure it out...
He's obviously been trying hard as **** with no success.
 

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If Kaguya suddenly stops spamming her dimension warps, Naruto or all his other 9 bijuu are obviously going to figure out something it up.

Also, Where the hell am I suggesting Naruto can replenish faster than Kaguya? don't insinuate that i'm doing so when i'm not. I said Naruto can replenish his chakra fast as well. Never said it was at Kaguya's level or anything of the sort.

He's saying nothing I do works and she sweating heavily. Try to figure it out...
He's obviously been trying hard as **** with no success.

No, you clearly are stating that Naruto is forcing her to use this technique to waste chakra, when Naruto doesn't have a ****ing clue about how much chakra she is using. So to use this argument in Naruto's favour that his tech forced her to waste chakra is ridiculous, when he knows jack.

What the hell - First Paragraph? Lol I am not even going to dignify this with a lengthy response. She has more chakra than the Juubi. You think she won't have enough after dimensional shift to rough house Naruto and his little Bijuu party?

Figure what out? That it's hot as hell there and he's sweating profusely? Why the heck would Sasuke spam Susano'o, or Amaterasu etc or other techs bar his Teleportation like tech when it has no relevance to dimensional shifts? By the way, what relevance does Sasuke have to this thread and Naruto's Bushin usage anyway?
 

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No, you clearly are stating that Naruto is forcing her to use this technique to waste chakra, when Naruto doesn't have a ****ing clue about how much chakra she is using. So to use this argument in Naruto's favour that his tech forced her to waste chakra is ridiculous, when he knows jack.

What the hell - First Paragraph? Lol I am not even going to dignify this with a lengthy response. She has more chakra than the Juubi. You think she won't have enough after dimensional shift to rough house Naruto and his little Bijuu party?

Figure what out? That it's hot as hell there and he's sweating profusely? Why the heck would Sasuke spam Susano'o, or Amaterasu etc or other techs bar his Teleportation like tech when it has no relevance to dimensional shifts? By the way, what relevance does Sasuke have to this thread and Naruto's Bushin usage anyway?

Naruto is inadvertently forcing her to burn chakra by dimension warping even if it's unbeknownst to him. What about that do you fail to rationalize? Yes, Naruto is burning his reserves as well, but I addressed that below.

Fact:
Kage Bunshin Barrage forced Kaguya to use her dimension gate


Black Zetsu commented on how much Chakra it's burning when she dimension warps.


Once again, where the **** am I saying that she doesn't have enough chakra to fight Naruto after dimension warping? You're implying things again. It's already been established that fighting the way she is, is inefficient. Does that mean she won't still be stronger than Naruto? No. What it does mean is that she needs to use her Dimension gate more wisely.

You're forgetting Naruto is doing all of this to get to Sasuke as well. So Sasuke is worth the Chakra to burn as he is the other half needed to seal Kaguya.

Did I say Sasuke was spamming Ama, Susanoo etc. He only said, "Nothing I do works". Now it would be smart to assume he's talking about S/T'ing in different ways and situations but to no avail. We do know that he's tried more than once and that the hot ass sun combined with his attempts are fatiguing him.

It has everything to do with Sasuke as Naruto's doing nothing but trying to get to him, so he's pulling out his arsenal to do so.
 
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I wouldn't say strongest, but they are definitely naruto's staple move.
 

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Naruto is inadvertently forcing her to burn chakra by dimension warping even if it's unbeknownst to him. What about that do you fail to rationalize? Yes, Naruto is burning his reserves as well, but I addressed that below.

Fact:
Kage Bunshin Barrage forced Kaguya to use her dimension gate


Black Zetsu commented on how much Chakra it's burning when she dimension warps.


Once again, where the **** am I saying that she doesn't have enough chakra to fight Naruto after dimension warping? You're implying things again. It's already been established that fighting the way she is, is inefficient. Does that mean she won't still be stronger than Naruto? No. What it does mean is that she needs to use her Dimension gate more wisely.

You're forgetting Naruto is doing all of this to get to Sasuke as well. So Sasuke is worth the Chakra to burn as he is the other half needed to seal Kaguya.

Did I say Sasuke was spamming Ama, Susanoo etc. He only said, "Nothing I do works". Now it would be smart to assume he's talking about S/T'ing in different ways and situations but to no avail. We do know that he's tried more than once and that the hot ass sun combined with his attempts are fatiguing him.

It has everything to do with Sasuke as Naruto's doing nothing but trying to get to him, so he's pulling out his arsenal to do so.

Inadvertently? So you admit it's not a part of Naruto's strategy, it's just something that's happening on its own accord? Why lend Naruto such wasted courtesy of 'tactician' then?

Your persistent implicature is what is off putting. The bijuus would have figured something out by now, yet they haven't. Which means it's something beyond their capabilities at the moment. My point still stands; she can best him and his Bijuus before they get a chance to decipher anything.

Didn't say he wasn't doing all this to get Sasuke.

Something we agree on then in regards to Sasuke, as it's obvious that without Kamui or going directly in through the warp point ... nothing will work.
 

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Inadvertently? So you admit it's not a part of Naruto's strategy, it's just something that's happening on its own accord? Why lend Naruto such wasted courtesy of 'tactician' then?

Your persistent implicature is what is off putting. The bijuus would have figured something out by now, yet they haven't. Which means it's something beyond their capabilities at the moment. My point still stands; she can best him and his Bijuus before they get a chance to decipher anything.

Didn't say he wasn't doing all this to get Sasuke.

Something we agree on then in regards to Sasuke, as it's obvious that without Kamui or going directly in through the warp point ... nothing will work.

Then why didn't she? The same way she did against Sasuke.
 

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What I wanna understand is whats your problem with how naruto used his chakra on kaguya. A burn or waste what ever you and other people think at tje end of the chapter what naruto did still worked for his plan to make her open her dimension to run in there and find sasuke. And last we saw sasuke was saying I need to find another way out.eanimg he clearly was trying a tech out.w.e back o.t why are you hating on his shadow clown usage ? He did what he did made her open her dimension end of story forcing her to flee to HER dimension. I bet if it was sasuke who did this you guys would be all like lord sasuke oitpowers nardo and forced god of shinobi to run away so stop crying about it and stop being a hypocrite about narutos usage of shadow clone caise you all sound like crying *****es (ugh so mad naruto used so many shadow clones to make kaguya run off) chill out they will show your lord in next chapter omg cry babys seriously
 

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Then why didn't she? The same way she did against Sasuke.

She threw him out ... and that's it. I don't remember ever seeing any blow exchange. Naruto didn't accomplish anything as well. She was giving him a chance as she didn't want to kill him. She wanted to absorb his chakra. Now, all has changed.

Don't see your point.
 

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Inadvertently? So you admit it's not a part of Naruto's strategy, it's just something that's happening on its own accord? Why lend Naruto such wasted courtesy of 'tactician' then?

Your persistent implicature is what is off putting. The bijuus would have figured something out by now, yet they haven't. Which means it's something beyond their capabilities at the moment. My point still stands; she can best him and his Bijuus before they get a chance to decipher anything.

Didn't say he wasn't doing all this to get Sasuke.

Something we agree on then in regards to Sasuke, as it's obvious that without Kamui or going directly in through the warp point ... nothing will work.

Where did I state that Naruto's strategy was to make Kaguya waste chakra? His only strategy was to force her to use that Dimension gate in hopes to enter it and find Sasuke. Due to that, he did inadvertently make her burn chakra at the expense of his own. I do believe dimension warping takes more chakra than Kage Bunshin. But it's most likely that her recovery rate could circumvent it even though Zetsu advised her to use it more wisely.

Naruto isn't a tactician, that's not the purpose of this thread. It was to highlight the fact that Naruto's Kage Bunshin justu is possibly the best justu in his arsenal that we've seen so far in regards to how it can be utilized in fights. He can simultaneously gain Intel while attacking, buying time, and finding an opening. If Naruto is anything, he's a unorthodox fighter who relies on his unpredictability, tenacity and power, which he is known for.

I wasn't trying to imply it. I was just stating that there's a chance that 1 of those 10 noticed her suddenly stop using her Dimension gate. Even if the chances of that are low we can't rule this out.

I'm almost positive after that panel, Sasuke most likely stopped wasting his chakra trying to attempt to get himself out.
 

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She threw him out ... and that's it. I don't remember ever seeing any blow exchange. Naruto didn't accomplish anything as well. She was giving him a chance as she didn't want to kill him. She wanted to absorb his chakra. Now, all has changed.

Don't see your point.

My point is she completely neutralized Sasuke in the blink of an eye, multiple times. Yet she's unable to to do the same with Naruto.
 

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Inadvertently? So you admit it's not a part of Naruto's strategy, it's just something that's happening on its own accord? Why lend Naruto such wasted courtesy of 'tactician' then?

Your persistent implicature is what is off putting. The bijuus would have figured something out by now, yet they haven't. Which means it's something beyond their capabilities at the moment. My point still stands; she can best him and his Bijuus before they get a chance to decipher anything.

Didn't say he wasn't doing all this to get Sasuke.

Something we agree on then in regards to Sasuke, as it's obvious that without Kamui or going directly in through the warp point ... nothing will work.



For the record he specifically said if she stop using her dimension tech they will figure something out eventually. Has she stop using her dimension tech ? NO she hasnt so they still cant say hey naruto have you notice kaguy stop using her dimension jutsu so stop trying to make it seem like he is stating stuffthat clearly he didnt say
 

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Where did I state that Naruto's strategy was to make Kaguya waste chakra? His only strategy was to force her to use that Dimension gate in hopes to enter it and find Sasuke. Due to that, he did inadvertently make her burn chakra at the expense of his own. I do believe dimension warping takes more chakra than Kage Bunshin. But it's most likely that her recovery rate could circumvent it even though Zetsu advised her to use it more wisely.

Naruto isn't a tactician, that's not the purpose of this thread. It was to highlight the fact that Naruto's Kage Bunshin justu is possibly the best justu in his arsenal that we've seen so far in regards to how it can be utilized in fights. He can simultaneously gain Intel while attacking, buying time, and finding an opening. If Naruto is anything, he's a unorthodox fighter who relies on his unpredictability, tenacity and power, which he is known for.

I wasn't trying to imply it. I was just stating that there's a chance that 1 of those 10 noticed her suddenly stop using her Dimension gate. Even if the chances of that are low we can't rule this out.

I'm almost positive after that panel, Sasuke most likely stopped wasting his chakra trying to attempt to get himself out.

Now I am not sure if you are intentionally playing at this:

The one he's forcing to warp dimensions or the one we all know can spam Kage Bunshin

I won't agree about it being his best Jutsu either. It would only be so, if he used it effectively, when he has mostly always gone for numbers.
 

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My point is she completely neutralized Sasuke in the blink of an eye, multiple times. Yet she's unable to to do the same with Naruto.

That is not what neutralized means. And at that point, she - as I would state again - wanted to absorb their chakra. It's NOW that things have changed.
 

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yeah because every clone can use jutsu
 

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Where did I state that Naruto's strategy was to make Kaguya waste chakra? His only strategy was to force her to use that Dimension gate in hopes to enter it and find Sasuke. Due to that, he did inadvertently make her burn chakra at the expense of his own. I do believe dimension warping takes more chakra than Kage Bunshin. But it's most likely that her recovery rate could circumvent it even though Zetsu advised her to use it more wisely.

Naruto isn't a tactician, that's not the purpose of this thread. It was to highlight the fact that Naruto's Kage Bunshin justu is possibly the best justu in his arsenal that we've seen so far in regards to how it can be utilized in fights. He can simultaneously gain Intel while attacking, buying time, and finding an opening. If Naruto is anything, he's a unorthodox fighter who relies on his unpredictability, tenacity and power, which he is known for.

I wasn't trying to imply it. I was just stating that there's a chance that 1 of those 10 noticed her suddenly stop using her Dimension gate. Even if the chances of that are low we can't rule this out.

I'm almost positive after that panel, Sasuke most likely stopped wasting his chakra trying to attempt to get himself out.


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Now I am not sure if you are intentionally playing at this:



I won't agree about it being his best Jutsu either. It would only be so, if he used it effectively, when he has mostly always gone for numbers.


But when he does use it effectively, it wields great results, no? I'd say he has an impressive track record in his Kage bunshin usage. Look at the war arc when he utilized his clones to give him Sage Mode because he didn't perfect it yet.

I don't believe i'm trying to play into anything but if you think about it. That Kage bunshin came from Kurama, who has a decent track record in recovering his own chakra back quickly. Naruto still has his own and 8 other Bijuu to use.
 

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That is not what neutralized means. And at that point, she - as I would state again - wanted to absorb their chakra. It's NOW that things have changed.

neu·tral·ize
verb
past tense: neutralized; past participle: neutralized
render (something) ineffective or harmless

I think that perfectly sums up Sasuke's situation now.
 

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But when he does use it effectively, it wields great results, no? I'd say he has an impressive track record in his Kage bunshin usage. Look at the war arc when he utilized his clones to give him Sage Mode because he didn't perfect it yet.

I don't believe i'm trying to play into anything but if you think about it. That Kage bunshin came from Kurama, who has a decent track record in recovering his own chakra back quickly. Naruto still has his own and 8 other Bijuu to use.

I would still say FRS is vastly better. It's Naruto's best technique in my opinion.

neu·tral·ize
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past tense: neutralized; past participle: neutralized
render (something) ineffective or harmless

I think that perfectly sums up Sasuke's situation now.

Don't use the dictionary, as the sense of the word varies given the context. Neutralize in combat or war context would mean to outright make something or some region 'neutral', to completely eliminate the threat.

Sasuke still exists, which means he isn't 'neutral'.
 

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Didn't Black Zetsu explicitly say that she cannot continue fighting the way she is as it's going to end up tiring her? If she could spam that dimension tech and had a fast recovery, Black zetsu wouldn't of brought it up.

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Naruto's chakra levels replenishes fast as well. This is Naruto we're talking about.

He has 9 Bijuu and Uzumaki life force combined with Ashura and the sage's blessing.

He can afford to use Kage Bunshin the same way he's been going about doing it. If you wanna talk about a waste of chakra look at Sasuke spamming his justus trying to escape a dimension.
You soloed this guy LMFAO! Naruto is a freaking Boss.
 
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