Hacking the Shadow Clone Jutsu (Any Clone Jutsu)

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Here's what is known about the Shadow Clone Jutsu (Any Clone Jutsu):

  • The clones are capable of using Jutsus
  • The clones have evenly distributed Chakra (WITH THE JUTSU CASTER)
Normally, the Human would make 3 clones
Real Human = AiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiClone 1 = BiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiClone 2 = B'iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiClone 3 = B''
25% Chakraiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii25% Chakraiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 25% Chakraiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 25% Chakra
Instead, the Human should make 1 clone
Real Human = AiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiClone 1 = B
50% Chakraiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii50% Chakra
Then, have the clone make 2 more clones
Real Human = AiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiClone 1 = BiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiClone 2 = CiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiClone 3 = C'
50% Chakraiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiii16.67% Chakraiiiiiiiiiiii16.67% Chakraiiiiiiiiiiii16.67% Chakra


This way, the Human body can reserve on Chakra and still have fairly decent leveled clones.
I mean, 16.67% is basically 17%
25 - 17 = 8
8% Difference is not bad in terms of quality


Should this method be used instead?
 
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If naruto makes 1000 clones and they all do rasengan does that mean his .001% self expressed terrible chakra control owns ppl like Sakura with "good" chakra control
 

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No chakra is distributed equally.
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Yes, but I said it is distributed evenly by the CASTER of the Jutsu. A clone has an indirect link to the human. That's why information can be passed onto the human when the clone leaves, yet no pain is felt.

With that said, Naruto doesn't seem to show any signs of exhaustion when one of his clones uses a technique. That is because each clone now have there own chakra pool, though it is much smaller. That's why, if a clone uses a clone jutsu, the chakra would be distributed evenly amongst THE CLONE'S own chakra pool, without effecting the original human's chakra pool.

P.S. That image was shown when Naruto created all the clones, not a clone creating a clone - so it doesn't prove my point wrong
 
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That would defeat the purpose of the clone, the foe will be able to tell the difference and the power will work weirdly lol.
They might as well just use the cloning technique

Also Naruto did that when training at the waterfall, and it didn't work the way you explained
 
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That would defeat the purpose of the clone, the foe will be able to tell the difference and the power will work weirdly lol.
They might as well just use the cloning technique

Also Naruto did that when training at the waterfall, and it didn't work the way you explained
The purpose of the clone is to assist. From the math I showed, it's still useful the way I explained it. The numbers even showed. Again, an 8% difference isn't that bad. Also, the cloning technique is still just an illusion. My method still provides useful clones that can DO physical damage as well as support.

Naruto did not do that at the waterfall. Naruto created several clones. Each clone AND Naruto had an evenly proportional chakra pool.

My method is saying Naruto makes one clone.
Now Naruto has 50% of his chakra, and the clone has 50%.

The clone then makes another clone.
Now Naruto has 50% of his chakra, and the clone has 25%, and the second clone has 25%

I'm saying if Naruto used this method in battle, he would have more Chakra in himself, the real body, and could last longer
 

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Yes, but I said it is distributed evenly by the CASTER of the Jutsu
In saying this, you have proven that you didn't properly read what that strip of manga said. To quote it:

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"See... his chakra is divided evenly among the clones".

Regardless of which version of the person casted the jutsu (real, or clone), this sentence says "his chakra is divded". By "his", it is implying the original Naruto, so even if the clone were to cast the jutsu, it would instantaneously combine all of his currently remaining chakra, then redivide it into the clones.

For example, he made 3 clones, meaning that each has 25% each. If a clone were to make 6 more clones for 9 clones and 1 original Naruto (a total of ten Naruto's), his current amount of chakra divided by the amount of clones would be how much each clone has, so if he has all of his chakra, then each clone (including himself) would each have 10% of his chakra.

We've seen Naruto simply give his chakra away to others before, so even if this wasn't possible with the clone jutsu alone he could do it manually, after casting the clone jutsu. All this said, you could be right. Nice idea one way or another, though I don't see any use to this because if a clone has barely any chakra it's not going to be able to do much of anything.
 
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In saying this, you have proven that you didn't properly read what that strip of manga said. To quote it:

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"See... his chakra is divided evenly among the clones".

Regardless of which version of the person casted the jutsu (real, or clone), this sentence says "his chakra is divded". By "his", it is implying the original Naruto, so even if the clone were to cast the jutsu, it would instantaneously combine all of his currently remaining chakra, then redivide it into the clones.

For example, he made 3 clones, meaning that each has 25% each. If a clone were to make 6 more clones for 9 clones and 1 original Naruto (a total of ten Naruto's), his current amount of chakra divided by the amount of clones would be how much each clone has, so if he has all of his chakra, then each clone (including himself) would each have 10% of his chakra.
I saw and still do see your point clearly (Very thorough by the way). However, here is where my view differs

When I see "his chakra" I get the implication that it is the caster, not the original. The reason I see it this way is because each clone can act on its own, in essence becoming its own person. I feel that each of there chakra pools are set from that moment they are created.

For Example:
Naruto made 3 clones, 25% each Naruto. Naruto then makes 1 more Naruto. Now, the 3 he created a minute before keep the chakra they had, while Naruto's chakra goes down to 12.5%

I see your point. I just believe that the chakra pools each clone begins with is set and locked. For that reason, I see otherwise
 

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That would make the clones much weaker, hence the reason why Narutos multi-shadow clones could often be taken out with just one hit.
This way, the Human body can reserve on Chakra and still have fairly decent leveled clones.
I mean, 16.67% is basically 17%
25 - 17 = 8
8% Difference is not bad in terms of quality

That's why I wrote this. It wouldn't be that bad of a reduction, anymore than it already is
 

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I respect your theory, but at the same time, I hesitate to rely on a mathematical analysis of anything in the NV. Even death and taxes are not unavoidable there.
 
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