[Discussion] How strong is Shiliew right now?

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Considering he has not been mentioned since MF, i would say that the current level of all BB pirates except BB himself is that of Jesus Burguess or w/e the westler guys name is. No reason to overhype non relevant characters, along with that we dont even know how strong they were before MF, all we know is that they survived.
 

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Pre timeskip Shilliew was above Yami Blackbeard. He was portrayed as the strongest when he joined. It is when Teach gained Gura Gura when Shilliew arguably fell behind.

Pre TS Shilliew alone is on the level of post skip M3 and higher. I'd say he was stronger than Vista. The only issue is how much could he have grown? If he improved as much as Burgess did then he is easily an Admiral level fighter. But I doubt he improved just as much as Burgess as he seemed to be near his prime pre skip.

I'd say he's around Marco's level.
 
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Ehhhh that's a stretch...I've read theories about him killing mihawk in the future but I doubt he's a tad bit below Mihawk at this moment
You're right now that I thought about it more. He was captured and put in imprisoned by Magallan I believe, which pretty much means him>Shiliew and he's more than a tad below Mihawk.

So I say around low-mid War Lord level now.
 

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You're right now that I thought about it more. He was captured and put in imprisoned by Magallan I believe, which pretty much means him>Shiliew and he's more than a tad below Mihawk.

So I say around low-mid War Lord level now.
And what exactly is that lol.

And yea Shilliew was portrayed to be around Magellan's level. Pre Skip. So if he is already around Magellan's level. A guy who had Ivankov, Crocodile, Jimbe, Luffy running for dear life, and who disposed of BB's entire crew in one attack, it is very possible that IF he improved over the timeskip, he is a solid top tier, which is around Mihawk's level.
 
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