past kages vs gokages
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Joseph Gomes
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Gokages win due to better teamwork.
-Gaara can use sand sensing to detect 2nd Mizukage's Clam and Mu. Mu gets sand coffin and the clam gets destroyed with weighted boulder
-Gaara can overpower his dad like he did in canon
-Onoki + Tsunade super jinton takes care of 3rd Raikage (AoE is too big, he can't dodge)
-Steam Clone get jinton'd
Not to mention Onoki can give flight to everyone on his team.
-Gaara can use sand sensing to detect 2nd Mizukage's Clam and Mu. Mu gets sand coffin and the clam gets destroyed with weighted boulder
-Gaara can overpower his dad like he did in canon
-Onoki + Tsunade super jinton takes care of 3rd Raikage (AoE is too big, he can't dodge)
-Steam Clone get jinton'd
Not to mention Onoki can give flight to everyone on his team.
think you're giving too many tasks to Gaara
he can't do all those at the same time xD
he gonna need to focus only on his battle with his dad if he wants to win
and he'll need some time to beat him
Dęvîa Puęrî
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Ok tbh I personally feel like the kages can just fly really really high and Gaara protects them via huge sand ball while tsuande and onooki charge up huge ass jinton and nukes them all... Ok maybe one might take one for team once Gaara let's down sand Sheild
But while tbh I'll match ups like this
Gaara will b facing (yes he can fight multiple opponents at same time like he did Susannos etc) but deals with his father in in the amount of 1 panel like he did manga
Gaara then fights creates desert (tht is idk terrain) puts himself in sky uses third eye and has his guard sand around him he can then split the amount of sand to help mei and tsuande (who is facing off Trollkage)
And onooki (who is facing against Mu)
Tbh Trollkage goes down mid diff here's why
It's not stated tht he learned hidden mist Jutsu (so not giving it to him) whole purpose of his genjutsu is to trick u but if mei does hidden mist he won't have line of vision to c joki boi with that being said he won't know where to fire it.
Now stay with me both mei and tsuande r in this together Gaara then uses his desert (from both sides) and sprinkles the sensing sand everywhere to be able to locate Mu and the clam.current Gaara also has some of his fathers gold dust and there's even more left so catching joki boi isn't prob. Once clam is found let's be honest guys it's destroyed by tsuande who can also tank jokiboi to get near Trollkage while his body is made up of oil (not sure bout this) but katon would b very effective against it mei has fire release not sure the Jutsu tho so not gonna go that route
ok once clam is destroyed Ay switches with tsuande (Ay was fighting his dad while his dad is stronger Ay is significantly faster via v2)
The third chases after Ay,Ay bypasses tsuande who summons her slug and try's to fend off the 3rd raikage with the slug there he can really hurt her especially if she is hiding inside of it providing her a defense
Ay and mei (who is having suiton battle against Trollkage now that his clam has been removed ) do a suiton that has raton in it thus numbing Trollkage and paralyzing him with this he won't be able to liqidfy and simply beheads him while he's on floor
Trollkage is done
Moving over to Mu onooki is holding on with help of Gaara (who was mainly at this battle field after handling joki boi and finding clam) Gaara then starts using gourd sand to find prepare to grab Mu and pin him down which won't be easy the desert sand is already trying to locate him once he's found idk how he gets out of a sand coffin (he hasn't shown physical strength to break out of it) with his hands bound etc onooki can simply jinton him
(This is a route with Mu trying to hide when he is doing tht he cannot use Jutsu)
Mu is done
By this time Ay should've been back to fighting with his father this time tsuande is healing mei (who r both inside the slug the slug was a shown to protect ppl by putting them inside her in pein invasion) who's prob almost about to quit .... (Hate her)
While Ay is holding his father back onooki and Gaara fly there and Gaara goes inside the slug (while onooki goes and flys on Ay back makin him even more faster then his father then he already was)
once inside Gaara is moving sand from where Trollkage and Mu were to 3rd raikage he then spreads it while (he creates a 3rd eye to c where to put it) now that sand is everywhere around 3rd Gaara prepares to grab 3rd
Tsuande also dispels the slug Gaara creates sand clouds for them to fly on so they can b out of 3rds range
relizing 3rd can easily pierce his defense (not because of lighting -_- but because of piercing prowess the 3rd has ) Gaara tells onooki to bring Ay up there where the kages r Ay sits on cloud and then tsuande poweres up onooki and he does the jinton that destroyed 26 Susannos which can easily cover the field thus the kages win high diff
Let me say this there r 2 many ways this fight can go but I showed a legit way it can ok everyone bar dmt is not really showing anything just choosing explain why U feel which ever team would win... Also the reason why the kages win is indeed team work these ppl fought to death which each other as allies in a war they know by now strength and weaknesses with that being said Trollkage and Mu being strongest (3rd is physically stronger but he's limited to taijutsu) will never work together which will be past Kage down fall
Gaara's dad sorry but u got one paneled
With Ay being significantly faster then his dad the scuffle that they do have should consist of Ay dodging father attacks while father is attacking and father blocking Ay attacks cuz they r 2 fast and Ay is just distracting his father
The thing is kabuto sent these Kage out knowing they won't work together kabuto whole goal in putting these Kage out was to seperate alliance so they won't work together
So yeah team gokage FTW
Also plz vm me if u wanna me to come bak to this thread to debate this
As I will b checking from time to time but just incase if I missed it
But while tbh I'll match ups like this
Gaara will b facing (yes he can fight multiple opponents at same time like he did Susannos etc) but deals with his father in in the amount of 1 panel like he did manga
Gaara then fights creates desert (tht is idk terrain) puts himself in sky uses third eye and has his guard sand around him he can then split the amount of sand to help mei and tsuande (who is facing off Trollkage)
And onooki (who is facing against Mu)
Tbh Trollkage goes down mid diff here's why
It's not stated tht he learned hidden mist Jutsu (so not giving it to him) whole purpose of his genjutsu is to trick u but if mei does hidden mist he won't have line of vision to c joki boi with that being said he won't know where to fire it.
Now stay with me both mei and tsuande r in this together Gaara then uses his desert (from both sides) and sprinkles the sensing sand everywhere to be able to locate Mu and the clam.current Gaara also has some of his fathers gold dust and there's even more left so catching joki boi isn't prob. Once clam is found let's be honest guys it's destroyed by tsuande who can also tank jokiboi to get near Trollkage while his body is made up of oil (not sure bout this) but katon would b very effective against it mei has fire release not sure the Jutsu tho so not gonna go that route
ok once clam is destroyed Ay switches with tsuande (Ay was fighting his dad while his dad is stronger Ay is significantly faster via v2)
The third chases after Ay,Ay bypasses tsuande who summons her slug and try's to fend off the 3rd raikage with the slug there he can really hurt her especially if she is hiding inside of it providing her a defense
Ay and mei (who is having suiton battle against Trollkage now that his clam has been removed ) do a suiton that has raton in it thus numbing Trollkage and paralyzing him with this he won't be able to liqidfy and simply beheads him while he's on floor
Trollkage is done
Moving over to Mu onooki is holding on with help of Gaara (who was mainly at this battle field after handling joki boi and finding clam) Gaara then starts using gourd sand to find prepare to grab Mu and pin him down which won't be easy the desert sand is already trying to locate him once he's found idk how he gets out of a sand coffin (he hasn't shown physical strength to break out of it) with his hands bound etc onooki can simply jinton him
(This is a route with Mu trying to hide when he is doing tht he cannot use Jutsu)
Mu is done
By this time Ay should've been back to fighting with his father this time tsuande is healing mei (who r both inside the slug the slug was a shown to protect ppl by putting them inside her in pein invasion) who's prob almost about to quit .... (Hate her)
While Ay is holding his father back onooki and Gaara fly there and Gaara goes inside the slug (while onooki goes and flys on Ay back makin him even more faster then his father then he already was)
once inside Gaara is moving sand from where Trollkage and Mu were to 3rd raikage he then spreads it while (he creates a 3rd eye to c where to put it) now that sand is everywhere around 3rd Gaara prepares to grab 3rd
Tsuande also dispels the slug Gaara creates sand clouds for them to fly on so they can b out of 3rds range
relizing 3rd can easily pierce his defense (not because of lighting -_- but because of piercing prowess the 3rd has ) Gaara tells onooki to bring Ay up there where the kages r Ay sits on cloud and then tsuande poweres up onooki and he does the jinton that destroyed 26 Susannos which can easily cover the field thus the kages win high diff
Let me say this there r 2 many ways this fight can go but I showed a legit way it can ok everyone bar dmt is not really showing anything just choosing explain why U feel which ever team would win... Also the reason why the kages win is indeed team work these ppl fought to death which each other as allies in a war they know by now strength and weaknesses with that being said Trollkage and Mu being strongest (3rd is physically stronger but he's limited to taijutsu) will never work together which will be past Kage down fall
Gaara's dad sorry but u got one paneled
With Ay being significantly faster then his dad the scuffle that they do have should consist of Ay dodging father attacks while father is attacking and father blocking Ay attacks cuz they r 2 fast and Ay is just distracting his father
The thing is kabuto sent these Kage out knowing they won't work together kabuto whole goal in putting these Kage out was to seperate alliance so they won't work together
So yeah team gokage FTW
Also plz vm me if u wanna me to come bak to this thread to debate this
As I will b checking from time to time but just incase if I missed it
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Dęvîa Puęrî
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Not true Gaara can attack multiple ppl at once especially if he's not in a battle himself ....
And it's not tht hard to track ppl if u sprinkle sand everywhere if they step on it Gaara can then rap there legs and waiting for the other ppl on his team to attack his father is non factor ... Read my post it's not perfect but that can play tht way
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Blackdeath667
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just read it
long post, not gonna counter dat lol D:
I still think the past kages win, but you did make some good points
well, it's a close fight, and I can see the Gokage being able to win it too