past kages vs gokages

[Blackdeath667]

3rd raikage, mu, trollkage, 4th kazakage VS A, mei, tsunade gaara, onoki
Location : madara vs gokage

distance : 20 meters

Restrictions : none

knowledge : full for both who wins

 

[TheEvilOne]

Gokage mid-high difficulty. Their teamwork is better.

 

[V h o]

Team 1 needs minato imo. 4 vs 5 lel

 

[Voidstep]

I think team 1 wins, high diff

they have genjutsu and Muu will be a problem, specially because they have no sensor in team 2 (Gaara will only be able to sense Muu if he's on land)


3rd Raikage beats his son
4rd might be faster but his father is a better tank and more dangerous
but will take some time

Oonoki will be too busy trying to keep his team safe from Muu

Gaara will be busy fighting his dad

I think trollkage will be able to keep Tsunade and Mei busy with the genjutsu for some time until he gets backup

IMO Muu will be the one that will give the win to his team....
Oonoki won't know where he is, and Muu may be able to successfully take down one of the Gokage with dust release and completely ruin their chances, before Oonoki can stop him

 

[DMT]

The old Generation > The new generation

Gokages Team work can't be useful when they fighting 4 enemies


Anyway, in the Manga Mū said
"anyone who can detect me
Must be a person worth to fight"
Gaara is the only threat in
The Gokage..




No one can harm 3rd raikage bar onoki
but with full knowledge
He can dodge anything, he was able to dodge FRS twice from KCM Naruto
He ate a FRS and even TBB, his attack ( hell stap ) did what FRS failed to do
hell stap destroyed his own body which means hell stap > FRS
there's no doubt he can stomp his sun A with easy




"numbers are not a problem for Jinton user"
Mū said this himself, in the Manga he almost
stomped Onoki and even Gaara
And was about to jinton both of them Without KCM Naruto, Old onoki can't use jinton more than 3-4, with 4th kazekage as Element of distraction Mū can take onoki quickly before Gaara stomp his father, the outcome will be
Mū vs Gaara .. Gaara can sense him but Mū jintons him ..




2nd Mizukage was able to keep up with 2 of the strongest Gokage Onoki and Gaara even though he gave them information about genjutsu, there's no need to explain
Why he can solo both Mei and Tsunade .

 

[TheEvilOne]

I think team 1 wins, high diff

they have genjutsu and Muu will be a problem, specially because they have no sensor in team 2 (Gaara will only be able to sense Muu if he's on land)


3rd Raikage beats his son
4rd might be faster but his father is a better tank and more dangerous
but will take some time

Oonoki will be too busy trying to keep his team safe from Muu

Gaara will be busy fighting his dad

I think trollkage will be able to keep Tsunade and Mei busy with the genjutsu for some time until he gets backup

IMO Muu will be the one that will give the win to his team....
Oonoki won't know where he is, and Muu may be able to successfully take down one of the Gokage with dust release and completely ruin their chances, before Oonoki can stop him

Except the Gokage can use teamwork and combined attacks like this [

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, than Ay and Tsunade proceeds to rape them. The 4th Kazekage's sand isn't automatic like Gaara's, therefore once Tsunade breaks through his defense, there will be nothing to stop her from killing him. Ay is faster than his father, and Tsunade- with Onoki's help- can also match his speed. He may be durable, but he isn't tanking a full powered punch from both.

Gaara can keep busy Muu and the 2nd Mizukage by himself until someone backs him up. The team also has a medic who can heal them and restore their chakra reserves if needed.

This isn't an 1vs1, but a 5vs4 battle.

 

[DMT]

Except the Gokage can use teamwork and combined attacks like this [

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Except onoki would be busy when he try to find Mū
And tsunade need to find the clam too, at least stop the 3rd raikage

For god's sake .. They are fighting 4 enemies .. not 1

 

[TheEvilOne]

Except onoki would be busy when he try to find Mū
And tsunade need to find the clam too, at least stop the 3rd raikage

They are fighting 4 enemies .. not 1

Why would he do that when he can annihilate the whole battlefield with one attack? There is no reason for him to hold back.
Gaara can find the clam by himself, no need for Tsunade.

So what? There are 5 Kages against 4. This isn't an 1vs1, but a team battle.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Gokages would win

 

[Voidstep]

Except the Gokage can use teamwork and combined attacks like this [

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]. Mei can obscure their vision with

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, than Ay and Tsunade proceeds to rape them. The 4th Kazekage's sand isn't automatic like Gaara's, therefore once Tsunade breaks through his defense, there will be nothing to stop her from killing him. Ay is faster than his father, and Tsunade- with Onoki's help- can also match his speed. He may be durable, but he isn't tanking a full powered punch from both.

Gaara can keep busy Muu and the 2nd Mizukage by himself until someone backs him up. The team also has a medic who can heal them and restore their chakra reserves if needed.

This isn't an 1vs1, but a 5vs4 battle.

like DMT already said... they'll be fighting 4 and not 1
it will be harder to use combined attacks

Oonoki and Muu (flight and dust release) are the bigger threats here
and Muu has the invisibility advantage, so Oonoki will have to play defense and keep an eye on him. Gaara won't sense him in the air, he needs sand for that
if you put gaara vs Muu, he'll get 1 shotted with dust release without him realizing

 

[DMT]

Why would he do that when he can annihilate the whole battlefield with one attack? There is no reason for him to hold back.
Gaara can find the clam by himself, no need for Tsunade.

So what? There are 5 Kages against 4. This isn't an 1vs1, but a team battle.

As Mū said "no one can stop jinton user except another jinton user"
Pretty sure this attack can be destroyed by any jinton even if it was not in the same size

if old onoki did it .. prime Mū who is more experienced in Kekkei Tota should be able to do it

 

[Voidstep]

Why would he do that when he can annihilate the whole battlefield with one attack? There is no reason for him to hold back.
Gaara can find the clam by himself, no need for Tsunade.

So what? There are 5 Kages against 4. This isn't an 1vs1, but a team battle.

to me you said you want to use Gaara to fight Muu, now you say he'll be finding the clam...
he won't be able to do both

and like you say... this is 4 vs 5 not a 1 vs 1... do you really think the past kages just gonna sit there and wait for them to finish a combined attack!?!?

they'll get separated
it will be a huge mess if they try to fight all together, this isn't a taijutsu battle...

 

[TheEvilOne]

As Mū said "no one can stop jinton user except another jinton user"
Pretty sure this attack can be destroyed by any jinton even if it was not in the same size

if old onoki did it .. prime Mū who is more experienced in Kekkei Tota should be able to do it

and I'm pretty sure that's just a hyperbole, unless you think Muu > Kaguya.
@bold That's simply ridiculous. How can a smaller jinton destroy a larger? This is like saying this [

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] Katon can neutralize this [

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What makes you think he is more experienced? Onoki is like 80 years old, Muu died when he was younger.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

(Gaara will only be able to sense Muu if he's on land)

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[TheEvilOne]

to me you said you want to use Gaara to fight Muu, now you say he'll be finding the clam...
he won't be able to do both

and like you say... this is 4 vs 5 not a 1 vs 1... do you really think the past kages just gonna sit there and wait for them to finish a combined attack!?!?

they'll get separated
it will be a huge mess if they try to fight all together, this isn't a taijutsu battle...

I said Gaara can fight Muu AND the Mizukage at the same time, until he gets some help.

Obviously not, but sadly they have no counter to the Gokage's teamwork, versatility and overall superiority.

 

[Voidstep]

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yeah, but you do realize it's not the same right?
Gaara it's not a sensor, he needs sand to be able to sense him
and on air he needs to cover a large area... he can get sniped from anywhere

Muu there was fighting 2
and what was going to happen if Nardo didn't came??


but yeah, I actually forgot he could use some sand to sense in the air
thanks

 

[DMT]

and I'm pretty sure that's just a hyperbole, unless you think Muu > Kaguya.
@bold That's simply ridiculous. How can a smaller jinton destroy a larger? This is like saying this [

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] Katon can neutralize this [

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What makes you think he is more experienced? Onoki is like 80 years old, Muu died when he was younger.

Katon isn't jinton, if the jinton clash with other jinton they atomize each other


Mū is like Hashirama, and Onoki is Yamato
Mū is the one who created the jinton not onoki he must he must know all jinton's secrets

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Team 1 wins.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Katon isn't jinton, if the jinton clash with other jinton they atomize each other


Mū is like Hashirama, and Onoki is Yamato
Mū is the one who created the jinton not onoki he must he must know all jinton's secrets

Muu's small jintons aren't atomizing Onoki's huge ass jinton. You literally have no evidence to support your assumption.

But Onoki lived longer than Muu so again, your point is invalid. Tsunade also had nearly full intel on mokuton and that wasn't much of a help.

 

[Rike Senju]

Team 1 wins.