if kaguya get sealed away with showing us any power attack what was the.....

[EdoDarkLighting]

Point of even bring her and she should kill someone important other than obito

 

[HashiraMadara]

yeah that's true!!

 

[iKaras]

Kishi is trying to shoehorn a relevant female in our face before its too late.(But it already is.)

 

[MAN OF SIN]

I think you mean "without". She should kill Kakashi alongside Obito with him removing his mask just like him.

Kishi is trying to shoehorn a relevant female in our face before its too late.(But it already is.)

Naw, Kishi foreshadowed the whole chakra was once one concept way back in the kage summit arc.

 

[iKaras]

Naw, Kishi foreshadowed the whole chakra was once concept way back in the kage summit arc.

Doesn't matter. It went from the Sage being the creator and soloing the juubi to Kaguya being the creator and the Sage having a brother(wtf?) as his equal helping seal his mom(?)

 

[RedRobin]

Doesn't matter. It went from the Sage being the creator and soloing the juubi to Kaguya being the creator and the Sage having a brother(wtf?) as his equal helping seal his mom(?)

So nothing is ever set in stone. Itachi went from someone who killed his village ruthlessly to someone who saved the village.

 

[EdoDarkLighting]

So nothing is ever set in stone. Itachi went from someone who killed his village ruthlessly to someone who saved the village.

Best comeback ever

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Doesn't matter. It went from the Sage being the creator and soloing the juubi to Kaguya being the creator and the Sage having a brother(wtf?) as his equal helping seal his mom(?)

I think you mean progenitor, rather than creator. Which I don't remember the Sage being referred to as. But you thought both the Sage and the Juubi having the rinnegan was coincidence?

 

[iKaras]

So nothing is ever set in stone. Itachi went from someone who killed his village ruthlessly to someone who saved the village.

It fit the mold though so there's no reason to bash it.

The sage sealing the juubi by himself was set in stone for years...oh but wait(?) He had a brother helping him the whole time?

How can something like that be totally missed in history?

 

[iKaras]

I think you mean progenitor, rather than creator. Which I don't remember the Sage being referred to as. But you thought both the Sage and the Juubi having the rinnegan was coincidence?

No. I would get into detail but im about to go to work.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

It fit the mold though so there's no reason to bash it.

The sage sealing the juubi by himself was set in stone for years...oh but wait(?) He had a brother helping him the whole time?

How can something like that be totally missed in history?

Judging from Temari's reaction when Obito revealed his plans, almost nobody knew about the ten tails.

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That shows how little people knew about the Sage.

 

[iKaras]

Judging from Temari's reaction when Obito revealed his plans, almost nobody knew about the ten tails.

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That shows how little about the Sage.

Of course she wouldn't know. She is Temari. She's not watching Naruto from our pov.

From the reader's pov, the sage solo'd/sealed the Juubi. That was his legacy.

It'd be one thing if in one panel...just one panel you saw Haruma somewhere in past arcs but no. Just shoe-horned in.

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For Hamura and Kaguya to become completely lost in the So6P's history to everyone is an absolute joke. They're gods. Beyond even Indra and Ashura and even they were mentioned in the past.

That's like us ppl forgetting about Jesus.

That's like saying if Noodles&Sauce seal Kaguya(the Goddess) in front of the SA, 100 yrs later legend would only remember Noodles soloing Kaguya.


As for the Itachi point. That is a total reach.

Itachi being revealed to be pro-Konoha and pro-Sauce filled in so many holes. Example

-Why he didn't kill Kakashi, Sauce(Twice)

-Tag team J-man with Kisame and get him out the way.

-Could have easily CAPTURED Noodles twice.

-Come back to Konoha after the third hokage died etc etc etc the list goes on.


Haruma sudden existence does little to nothing to fill in a hole. He's just all of a sudden...there...like Kaguya.

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[MAN OF SIN]

Gaara and Kankuro also seemed surprised. Everyone in the room was surprised so what does that tell you? They knew little about the Sage and nothing about the ten tails. He was regarded as myth to Kakashi, not history.

Also, remember when it was said that Hyuuga and Uchiha were related back in part 1?

 

[iKaras]

Gaara and Kankuro also seemed surprised. Everyone in the room was surprised so what does that tell you? They knew little about the Sage and nothing about the ten tails. He was regarded as myth to Kakashi, not history.

Also, remember when it was said that Hyuuga and Uchiha were related back in part 1?

Doesn't matter. So is Jesus/god.

That story Obito told had nothing to do with Hamura and the So6P's mom which their legacies should be on the same level as the sage himself infamous or not.

How can something so critical be just ripped out of history. Sure Kishi can cover it up but don't tell me he had Hamura in mind when first drew the So6P.

@Uchiha and Hyuuga. That's the little hole I was refering to in my previous post. Again don't stand there and tell me he was planning on making Haruma/Kaguya back in the early 2000's.

Wont even debate that one.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Doesn't matter. So is Jesus/god.

That story Obito told had nothing to do with Hamura and the So6P's mom which their legacies should be on the same level as the sage himself infamous or not.

How can something so critical be just ripped out of history. Sure Kishi can cover it up but don't tell me he had Hamura in mind when first drew the So6P.

@Uchiha and Hyuuga. That's the little hole I was refering to in my previous post. Again don't stand there and tell me he was planning on making Haruma/Kaguya back in the early 2000's.

Wont even debate that one.

Obito says that he knows that story due to reading the tablet. Which we know was altered and only people with a sharigan can read a bit of it, having MS allows you to read more, the rinnigan even further. Also, do you think it makes sense for the sage to leave info about the ten tails knowing its revival could end the world?

Chapter 467 came out in 2009, not the early 2000s.

 

[iKaras]

Obito says that he knows that story due to reading the tablet. Which we know was altered and only people with a sharigan can read a bit of it, having MS allows you to read more, the rinnigan even further. Also, do you think it makes sense for the sage to leave info about the ten tails knowing its revival could end the world?

Chapter 467 came out in 2009, not the early 2000s.

Putting Hamura on the tablet would have altered nothing. BZ plan would have worked out in the end regardless if the uchiha knew the sage sealed the Juubi or had a wingman(Hamura). He was shoehorned into the story. It's not the end of the world because it happened. it just simply did.

Also, I was referring to the chapter in which Kakashi said the byakugan came before the sharingan. That was early 2000's. Again, not debating what I said in my previous post.

And finally its not about what the sage left behind. Its how in the hell does human history in general totally forget about the two other GODS that was his own BROTHER and MOM? It's like us forgetting about Jesus/Moses etc.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Putting Hamura on the tablet would have altered nothing. BZ plan would have worked out in the end regardless if the uchiha knew the sage sealed the Juubi or had a wingman(Hamura). He was shoehorned into the story. It's not the end of the world because it happened. it just simply did.

Also, I was referring to the chapter in which Kakashi said the byakugan came before the sharingan. That was early 2000's. Again, not debating what I said in my previous post.

And finally its not about what the sage left behind. Its how in the hell does human history in general totally forget about the two other GODS that was his own BROTHER and MOM? It's like us forgetting about Jesus/Moses etc.

Oh there was a reason why Black Zetsu wrote him out. We just don't know what it is yet. And again nobody knew about the ten tails, which is a god. Who knows how long ago that was.

Hell, people don't even know the Sage's name. So he's less popular than Jesus and Moses.