[VS] Itachi vs Danzo

[Rιver]

Danzo commended Sasuke for placing him in a Genjutsu, indicating Danzo isn't a noob when it came to Genjutsu. The only reason why Sasuke tricked Danzo was because the second time he used Genjutsu it was very subtle in nature (making it seem like an extra eye was open). If Danzo notices he's in a Genjutsu he has enough chakra control to distort his own chakra and snap out of it. I have never seen Itachi use Genjutsu in a subtle way, everyone always notices it's a Genjutsu. More important, Danzo knows Itachi's main fighting style is Genjutsu, I'm pretty sure he'll take his bandages off and use his sharingan to detect such Genjutsu, like Kakashi.

Firstly, no one has ever broke out of Sharingan Genjutsu with pure Chakra control skill, let alone Itachi's type of Genjutsu. Secondly, no one has ever noticed Itachi's Genjutsu from the start, unless in special circumstances e.g. when Itachi was burning Kakashi's Kage Bunshin in his Genjutsu. Thirdly, Danzō wouldn't care a single bit if he already fought a Sharingan-user, Uchiha, a brother of Itachi and got trapped in Genjutsu, not only once, but twice. And nothing implies Sharingan can detect Genjutsu coming. Wake up, Danzō is not countering his Genjutsu, has never countered and never would if they both were alive. That's a fact.​

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi solos this piece of shit like he did with Orochimaru.

 

[~Sky~]

They both have one of Shisui's eyes. Wouldn't they cancel each other out?

Regardless, Itachi wins this.

 

[Phonas]

Tsukuyomi won't work. It only lasts a second. Any damage is reversed, so it won't have an effect and just drain Itachi up.

What on Earth? No, the damage won't be reversed because Danzo will faint out of mental trauma before he can activate Izanagi. As a matter of fact, Danzo can die from the mental traumatization if Itachi wishes to apply an unfathomable amount of days to his Tsukuyomi (assuming he's in a bloodlusted state). Ask Kakashi.

Two, if you look where Sasuke is positioned, you would see that he was inches away from landing a lethal blow to Danzo. Had Danzo not realized it was genjutsu in one more second, he would have died. Unfortunately, Itachi's genjutsu skills are far, far superior to that of Sasuke's, in which case, Danzo will be completely fooled and deluded and won't realize in time that he's in Itachi's illusion. All Itachi has to do is cast a perfectly simulated genjutsu on him once, then Danzo will be in a comatose state, and in that interval of time Itachi will close the distance between them and slit his throat with a kunai in the real world, while Danzo is still in the genjutsu. That entire process will only take 2 seconds. Ask Orochimaru.

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[LustyLover]

What on Earth? No, the damage won't be reversed because Danzo will faint out of mental trauma before he can activate Izanagi. As a matter of fact, Danzo can die from the mental traumatization if Itachi wishes to apply an unfathomable amount of days to his Tsukuyomi (assuming he's in a bloodlusted state). Ask Kakashi.

Two, if you look where Sasuke is positioned, you would see that he was inches away from landing a lethal blow to Danzo. Had Danzo not realized it was genjutsu in one more second, he would have died. Unfortunately, Itachi's genjutsu skills are far, far superior to that of Sasuke's, in which case, Danzo will be completely fooled and deluded and won't realize in time that he's in Itachi's illusion. All Itachi has to do is cast a perfectly simulated genjutsu on him once, then Danzo will be in a comatose state, and in that interval of time Itachi will close the distance between them and slit his throat with a kunai in the real world, while Danzo is still in the genjutsu. That entire process will only take 2 seconds. Ask Orochimaru.

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Exactly.

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Kisame himself said that he was surprised Kakashi was even ALIVE after being hit with Itachi's Tsukuyomi.

Kakashi living is obviously contributed to the fact that Itachi didn't want to kill him. Still, Tsukuyomi left Kakashi bedridden for weeks. Itachi can easily double to triple Tsukuyomi's length and therefore the effect. If Itachi's Tsukuyomi itself doesn't kill Danzo, it's definitely going to lead to his defeat. If a 16 year old novice could put him under Genjutsu not once but twice, then Itachi can easily do it.

 

[Demonic.]

What on Earth? No, the damage won't be reversed because Danzo will faint out of mental trauma before he can activate Izanagi. As a matter of fact, Danzo can die from the mental traumatization if Itachi wishes to apply an unfathomable amount of days to his Tsukuyomi (assuming he's in a bloodlusted state). Ask Kakashi.

Two, if you look where Sasuke is positioned, you would see that he was inches away from landing a lethal blow to Danzo. Had Danzo not realized it was genjutsu in one more second, he would have died. Unfortunately, Itachi's genjutsu skills are far, far superior to that of Sasuke's, in which case, Danzo will be completely fooled and deluded and won't realize in time that he's in Itachi's illusion. All Itachi has to do is cast a perfectly simulated genjutsu on him once, then Danzo will be in a comatose state, and in that interval of time Itachi will close the distance between them and slit his throat with a kunai in the real world, while Danzo is still in the genjutsu. That entire process will only take 2 seconds. Ask Orochimaru.

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If you've read the debate you'd already see this has been discussed. Danzo does not activate Izanagi individually, each of the eyes are active for about 60 seconds, if he takes damage in that amount of time Izanagi activates without him weaving the signs...that's why when Danzo thought he had Sasuke pinned, Danzo released Izanagi....Sasuke escapes by perfecting his Susano and throws an arrow at Danzo and since he has already deactivated Izanagi, he was like shit can't weave the signs in time and used wood release to block. After that he redid Izanagi, and the arrows no longer bothered him because Izanagi was active again. That's why the other guy debating switched his argument to regular Genjutsu instead. Tsukuyomi will be reversed. That fact that it only lasts a second doesn't help. It makes it useless since Izanagi is active for 60 seconds.

 

[Demonic.]

Firstly, no one has ever broke out of Sharingan Genjutsu with pure Chakra control skill, let alone Itachi's type of Genjutsu. Secondly, no one has ever noticed Itachi's Genjutsu from the start, unless in special circumstances e.g. when Itachi was burning Kakashi's Kage Bunshin in his Genjutsu. Thirdly, Danzō wouldn't care a single bit if he already fought a Sharingan-user, Uchiha, a brother of Itachi and got trapped in Genjutsu, not only once, but twice. And nothing implies Sharingan can detect Genjutsu coming. Wake up, Danzō is not countering his Genjutsu, has never countered and never would if they both were alive. That's a fact.​

You're wrong people have noticed besides Kakashi. Naruto noticed it after a few seconds. Weird shit starts going on like Itachi turning into crows. Naruto tried to distort his chakra to break out of it, but he couldn't. Itachi did give him credit saying, "he's matured." Because Naruto did manage to get some shuriken coming at Naruto to fade away before they hit him.... He was too weak to fully break the Genjutsu, but he at least did that. Do you honestly think Danzo wouldn't have done better than Naruto at distorting his chakra to break the Genjutsu? Danzo also has full intel on Itachi.... "Amaterasu, huh? Haven't seen that in a while...you're Itachi's kid brother alright." And Danzo praised Itachi's Genjutsu while ridiculing Sasuke's.... Danzo already knows what's up.

 

[Rιver]

You're wrong people have noticed besides Kakashi. Naruto noticed it after a few seconds. Weird shit starts going on like Itachi turning into crows. Naruto tried to distort his chakra to break out of it, but he couldn't. Itachi did give him credit saying, "he's matured." Because Naruto did manage to get some shuriken coming at Naruto to fade away before they hit him.... He was too weak to fully break the Genjutsu, but he at least did that. Do you honestly think Danzo wouldn't have done better than Naruto at distorting his chakra to break the Genjutsu? Danzo also has full intel on Itachi.... "Amaterasu, huh? Haven't seen that in a while...you're Itachi's kid brother alright." And Danzo praised Itachi's Genjutsu while ridiculing Sasuke's.... Danzo already knows what's up.

Ephemeral, is not done with Sharingan. It's a regular Genjutsu, which is far inferior to Sharingan. And Naruto couldn't break out of even that... while Danzō couldn't even gain control of Shōdai's cells, he shouldn't advance better at all than Naruto against Ephemeral. Sharingan on the other hand, is a whole new story.​

 

[makosheva7]

If Itachi is healthy then he wins if KA is restricted. Tsukuyomi GG. (Enter Uchiha blood or sharingan owner argument)

 

[Demonic.]

Ephemeral, is not done with Sharingan. It's a regular Genjutsu, which is far inferior to Sharingan. And Naruto couldn't break out of even that... while Danzō couldn't even gain control of Shōdai's cells, he shouldn't advance better at all than Naruto against Ephemeral. Sharingan on the other hand, is a whole new story.​

Itachi's Genjutsu has shown to be countered as well. When he took on Kakashi, kurenai, and Asuma in Part 1 Itachi prepped a Genjutsu which scared Kakashi and Kakashi instructed Kurenai and Asuma to close their eyes saying if they look at Itachi they'll be done for. He says he will have to fight Itachi alone Sharingan vs Sharingan. Itachi comments saying it's impressive even though he's not the rightful owner of the eye, he's still able to resist. Then he says there's something he can't resist, and uses Tsukuyomi. Danzo who also has a Sharingan will be resistant to Itachi's Sharingan Genjutsu, except for Tsukuyomi, according to this. And we shouldn't forget that Danzo has intel on Itachi's Genjutsu fighting style.

 

[Rιver]

Itachi's Genjutsu has shown to be countered as well. When he took on Kakashi, kurenai, and Asuma in Part 1 Itachi prepped a Genjutsu which scared Kakashi and Kakashi instructed Kurenai and Asuma to close their eyes saying if they look at Itachi they'll be done for. He says he will have to fight Itachi alone Sharingan vs Sharingan. Itachi comments saying it's impressive even though he's not the rightful owner of the eye, he's still able to resist. Then he says there's something he can't resist, and uses Tsukuyomi. Danzo who also has a Sharingan will be resistant to Itachi's Sharingan Genjutsu, except for Tsukuyomi, according to this. And we shouldn't forget that Danzo has intel on Itachi's Genjutsu fighting style.

It can be countered by fighting, but they can't break it - like Kakashi and Obito fought in Genjutsu, and so did Sasuke and Itachi. The one in control of Genjutsu can move, while the other cannot. Itachi is no obliged to reveal his intentions and can move if Danzō is not aware of being in Genjutsu, and even if he was, Itachi can form in mid-way a Kage Bunshin, that waits for Itachi outside, and would take care of the job itself. Here's a Viz scan, where Itachi says 'to some extent'.

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[Demonic.]

It can be countered by fighting, but they can't break it - like Kakashi and Obito fought in Genjutsu, and so did Sasuke and Itachi. The one in control of Genjutsu can move, while the other cannot. Itachi is no obliged to reveal his intentions and can move if Danzō is not aware of being in Genjutsu, and even if he was, Itachi can form in mid-way a Kage Bunshin, that waits for Itachi outside, and would take care of the job itself. Here's a Viz scan, where Itachi says 'to some extent'.

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You have a point, but there is a reason Itachi switched to Tsukuyomi. The resistance Kakashi put forth was undoubtedly good. Sasuke managed to see through Itachi's Genjutsu with his sharingan as well when they fought (except for Tsukuyomi).We can't be sure how Danzo will fair with his sharingan unbandaged, but it's safe to say he too will have resistance against Sharingan Genjutsu. It's unlikely Danzo will be trapped in a Genjutsu too long.