[VS] Eyeless madara vs EMS Sasuke

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Scenario 1.
Blind Madara
vs
EMS Sasuke

Scenario 2.
Rinnegan madara (pre-jin)
vs EMS Sasuke & Edo Itachi


Location: pein vs SM Naruto
Distance: 100m
knowledge: what they've shown against each other
Restrictions: None
Intent: kill:devil:
 
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Well we already saw the first fight with Sasuke even attacking Madara off guard yet get severely trolled .

Second scenario Madara obliterates . He hasn't shown any regular sealing techniques yet , though :

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I think this might be enough .

And for any sceptical , He has Kyūkon no Jutsu , the Soul rip technique which could potentially stop Edo Tensei too .
 

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SCENARIO 1: Blind Madara wins this

--He has shown to be able to use susanoo without any eyes, as he should be able to possibly use even PS which he can maintain it longer than sasuke, and is boosted by SM,

--After recieving Hashiramas SM, he had the reflexes to react to something as fast as FTG,, meaning that he can sense the oncmoming Amaterasu and comfrotably evade it

--He can use all the mokuton based attacks and now that they are amplified with SM,

--Now that he has Hashiramas SM,, he could possibly use SS which would pulverise sasukes PS here, as sasukes PS is not withstanding chojo kobetsus,

--mokuton hotei, hobi, and flower tree world ensure madaras victory

SCENARIO 2: Madara stomps

--this battle already happened in canon, Sasuke doesnt stand a chance
 

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By feats Madara gets raped in scenario 1, if you believe he can use Shinsuusenju, then he rapes in Scenario 1. Scenario 2 is a loss for Sasuke and Itachi either way.
 

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Madara stomps both scenes.

Eyeless Madara has Shinsuusenju nuff said.

Rinnegan Madara >Eyeless Madara nuff said.
 

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Madara doesn't have Sage Mode in the first scenario, so no sensing for him. Sasuke wrecks. Madara wins in the second one.
 

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Madara low diff in both scenario.

1). He showed to use Susanoo at a blind state. Seeing as how Itachi in a blind state was able to use his full Susanoo, Madara can achieve PS as well. It makes sense because Susanoo comes from the Chakra after the eyes have been awakened. With his perfect Susanoo, he can destroy Sasuke in one slash.

2). Any Rinnegan technique murders Sasuke to a horrible death.​
 

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Madara doesn't have Sage Mode in the first scenario, so no sensing for him. Sasuke wrecks. Madara wins in the second one.

Blind Madara had Sage Mode from Hashirama.
 

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By feats Madara gets raped in scenario 1, if you believe he can use Shinsuusenju, then he rapes in Scenario 1. Scenario 2 is a loss for Sasuke and Itachi either way.
He does. He already showed that feat via spiral zetsu. It was so weak and small because of Spiral zetsu low-level Mokuton.
 

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He does. He already showed that feat via spiral zetsu. It was so weak and small because of Spiral zetsu low-level Mokuton.

Lol. Not how it works.


But I agree that he has it. That is just for anyone who believes he doesn't. (There are some)
 

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Lol. Not how it works.


But I agree that he has it. That is just for anyone who believes he doesn't. (There are some)
So you think spiral zetsu just used that on his own?
 

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Ps and rikudou Justu all in one is enough to slap Sasuke out of susanoo.
 

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Madara low diff in both scenario.

1). He showed to use Susanoo at a blind state. Seeing as how Itachi in a blind state was able to use his full Susanoo, Madara can achieve PS as well. It makes sense because Susanoo comes from the Chakra after the eyes have been awakened. With his perfect Susanoo, he can destroy Sasuke in one slash.

2). Any Rinnegan technique murders Sasuke to a horrible death.​

Unfortunately for you, Madara is revived with his real eyes.

So he doesn't have double EMS, that was used for inzanagi.

So all he has is regular leg Susanoo and rikudou Justus excluding his unique ability limbo.
 

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No. If he no longer maintained his EMS, only one Rinnegan would be awakened. Therefore, you're incorrect. His right eye have either regenerated due to EMS's eternal light, or Hashirama's cells. Even so, he can use PS at blind state, just as Itachi did.​
 

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That's not how inzanagi works, it can't regenerate once the eyes is sealed blind.
Otherwise we wouldn't be blind in the first place

Zetsu said that Madara's original eyes turned into the rinnegan.

Meaning his eyes went through 3 tomoe-> ms-> rinnegan transformation.

Madara's left EMS eye was the one old Madara had in the cave when he met Obito.

If Madara still had PS, he wouldn't of been smacked around with his regular (legged) Susanoo.
 

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That's not how inzanagi works, it can't regenerate once the eyes is sealed blind.
Otherwise we wouldn't be blind in the first place

Zetsu said that Madara's original eyes turned into the rinnegan.

Meaning his eyes went through 3 tomoe-> ms-> rinnegan transformation.

Madara's left EMS eye was the one old Madara had in the cave when he met Obito.

If Madara still had PS, he wouldn't of been smacked around with his regular (legged) Susanoo.

1. We've never seen an EMS user use Izanagi until madara did and he happened to regain vision. Due to EMS having eternal vision, Hashi's DNA, or the Rinnegan. Refreshing his eyesight.

For the PS part, its not like he had time to stabilize his chakra.
 

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Scenario 1 sasuke wins. While madara is busy absorbing amaterasu with preta path, sasuke can use kenjutsu to land a critical hit.
Scenario 2 madara wins easily due to limbo.
 

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1. We've never seen an EMS user use Izanagi until madara did and he happened to regain vision. Due to EMS having eternal vision, Hashi's DNA, or the Rinnegan. Refreshing his eyesight.

That's not factual, it's just a theory.

If EMS prevents deterioration, that means there will be no blindness in the first place.

Like spamming ms techniques and using Susanoo.

Inzanagi makes you go blind permanetly, that's what happened to Madara's one EMS.

Senju DNA doesn't regain it or Obito would of gotten his spare eye back from the fight with konan.

So all of these rejuvenation of the eyes are just theories.

For the PS part, its not like he had time to stabilize his chakra.

Against the kages he didn't have time to regenerate either, but he still did it anyways.

Unless you change the OP to Madara having Perfect Susanoo, blind sm Madara does not canonily have PS.
 
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