Minato vs Orochimaru

[benzy]

You are completely wrong rofl . Minato indeed used RDS to SPLIT Kurama into 2 and then USED THE RDS TO SEAL 1 OF THE HALFS INTO HIMSELF . It is stated the marking that appears after using RDS is the same as 4 symbols seals not that they are the same seals . If you look at the next pages of that scan you showed you will clearly see the RDS didnt do a shit when Minato performed the 8 trigrams seals therefore he doesnt needed the RDS to perform it . BTW 8 trigram seal = 2x 4 Symbols Seal again get your facts straith and stop posting nonsense .

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

You are completely wrong rofl . Minato indeed used RDS to SPLIT Kurama into 2 and then USED THE RDS TO SEAL 1 OF THE HALFS INTO HIMSELF . It is stated the marking that appears after using RDS is the same as 4 symbols seals not that they are the same seals . If you look at the next pages of that scan you showed you will clearly see the RDS didnt do a shit when Minato performed the 8 trigrams seals therefore he doesnt needed the RDS to perform it . BTW 8 trigram seal = 2x 4 Symbols Seal again get your facts straith and stop posting nonsense .

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Ignorance is bliss . The RDS seal is needed to perform the Four symbols seal unless proven otherwise in the manga . You're in denial and bothered I proved you attribute false feats to your favorite character in a vs a thread . It bothers me that you uses this manga that way but I'll let you into it .

RDS has sealed Kurama's chakra , Minato didn't do anything . This page is the proof , unless your show me some scans where Minato PERFORM HIMSELF the seal your feats are fan fiction . Here is one attributing the Kyubi sealing to RDS and unless you show me some damn manga images Orochimaru still bite your fav.

And please , I know about RDS markings and the relation with the trigram seals . You'll make your brain work a little bit more to figure out by yourself why the Author hasn't called this the Eight symbols seal , I'm done with this.

(Bonus) As everybody can see , this page prove from top to bottom panels my point so you can too . Please Open your eyes a little bit more reading the bottom panels for my confirmation and then come again debating with me , thanks .

 

[~Sky~]

usually 50-100 but ok.

No it isn't. Lol

 

[Benjamin King]

It doesn't work that way buddy. Both Naruto and Jiraya were able to extend their Rasengan larger simply by power boost. Pouring more chakra with no boost is not going to prove your point. Which is why Odama Rasengan is only the biggest that can be used in whoever base form

It is your opinion of how things work. Not the manga's. The databook have already established that more Chakra is added the Jutsu, the bigger and stronger it gets. Example - Elements. All Minato needs to do is add more Chakra to Rasengan to make it big. Simple as that. Not sure where you got he used Odama Rasengan in base, as that was his normal Rasengan.​

 

[Brother Numpsay]

It is your opinion of how things work. Not the manga's. The databook have already established that more Chakra is added the Jutsu, the bigger and stronger it gets. Example - Elements. All Minato needs to do is add more Chakra to Rasengan to make it big. Simple as that. Not sure where you got he used Odama Rasengan in base, as that was his normal Rasengan.​

So far manga proves me right, while proving you wrong. So there is nothing to discuss anymore. Evidence shows how to make a Giant Rasengan. Manga shows the limit on how much the Rasengan can be formed.

 

[Benjamin King]

So far manga proves me right, while proving you wrong. So there is nothing to discuss anymore. Evidence shows how to make a Giant Rasengan. Manga shows the limit on how much the Rasengan can be formed.

Manga has never once shown limits for normal Rasengan. The databook is on my side, so is logic.​

 

[naruto7861]

End the thread minato wins no way orachimaru beating him

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Manga has never once shown limits for normal Rasengan. The databook is on my side, so is logic.​

1. Seriously stop, this isn't funny anymore. All Rasengan's exceed futher shows it needing a power boost, period. Unless you shows me a Giant Rasengan being made without it.

2. No where did you ever post a Databook scan explaining how much futher a Rasengan can grow "by adding more chakra"

3. A logical question for you is, how do you know that what Minato did was actually all the chakra he can add to his Rasengan?

 

[Memento Mori]

lol this still going XD

Minato wins this

 

[Ababeel]

You obviously don't understand a single thing I typed. I said, they didn't know Orochimaru had it. His perfection of immortality isn't irrelevant, it only enforces the fact they knew little about Orochimaru to pass any valid judgement. Anko doesn't know anything either, she didn't even know Orochimaru's mind was literally inside the seal, she has no merit. Madara gained the Genjutsu from his Rinnegan he got from the tree, even if he had it, he still doesn't have Amateratsu. Orochimaru isn't getting stomped by shit, Itachi had him in a Genjutsu, and mind you he's one of the best users ever, and was still able to move. Get off Minato's **** and pull some valid arguments.

١- I know what you said, and I am telling you that they know what Oro has except for one jutsu. :dunno:
2- His immortality is useless against the sealing jutsu. Kurama is immortal, yet he got sealed away.
3- Lol, you are the one to say "Get off Minato's **** " XD

You're beloved Oro got stomped twice by itachi in matter of one second, and he couldn't handle hebi Sasuke.

and even IF we go with your argument that they did not know about Oro's power, look at what happened to Oro
while fighting OLD Hiruzen, he barely survived. lol

and since Minato is stronger than old Hiruzen, and actually even Hiruzen from the Kurama's attack was weaker than
Minato, how would Oro even stand a chance? He even admitted that If Hiruzen was 10 years younger he would have killed him (13 years younger, he(Hiruzen) was still weaker than Minato)


Tell me how is Oro going to react to Minato's speed exactly?

 

[Valhorus]

Get over it already . Haveing a zetsu body is not changing the result of this battle . Orochimaru has nothing , I repeat nothing to hurt Minato .

 

[Benjamin King]

1. Seriously stop, this isn't funny anymore. All Rasengan's exceed futher shows it needing a power boost, period. Unless you shows me a Giant Rasengan being made without it.

2. No where did you ever post a Databook scan explaining how much futher a Rasengan can grow "by adding more chakra"

3. A logical question for you is, how do you know that what Minato did was actually all the chakra he can add to his Rasengan?

If you're going to reply with more fallacious and ignorant replies, this will be my last one.

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As Masashi Kishimoto explains in the databook, the Jutsu's quality and quantity is solely dependent on how much Chakra is applied to it. Since Rasengan is Chakra based attack, its size and power will depend on how much Minato pours Chakra to it.​

 

[Brother Numpsay]

If you're going to reply with more fallacious and ignorant replies, this will be my last one.

Spoiler

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As Masashi Kishimoto explains in the databook, the Jutsu's quality and quantity is solely dependent on how much Chakra is applied to it. Since Rasengan is Chakra based attack, its size and power will depend on how much Minato pours Chakra to it.​

How do you take out of this context. This explanation said nothing of increasing the size of the jutsu. Going by this logic anyone can make whatever size they want for their justu inorder to make it stronger. Once again, with the Databook supporting me, putting more chakra into the jutsu doesn't increase its size but POWER, period.

 

[grizzlyshree]

How do you take out of this context. This explanation said nothing of increasing the size of the jutsu. Going by this logic anyone can make whatever size they want for their justu inorder to make it stronger. Once again, with the Databook supporting me, putting more chakra into the jutsu doesn't increase its size but POWER, period.

then minato can increase the poewer of his rasengans! simple

 

[Brother Numpsay]

then minato can increase the poewer of his rasengans! simple

Ok, thats nice. Was I suppose to disagree here?

 

[makosheva7]

Minato mid diff at most. Oro can't do anything to touch Minato while Minato can barrage Oro with Odama Rasengans and KB. Plus it's only 30 m starting distance. Without ET Oro just can't cut it. And this is all ignoring SM.

 

[Red Slayer]

If you didn't saw ET and BM Minato are restricted . And just to clear it BM is part of Minato's arsenal , I really love how ppl were puting Double Rinnegan Edo Madara the strongest character on their lists even tho Madara haven't show any feats from his Rinnegan back then , but they like to exclude BM Minato lol .


Why are you insulting me ? Orochimaru;s durability is more than Obito roflmao . Orochimaru has zetsu body now , the samy body that couldnt tank a Rasengan , which part of that you don't get . Orochimaru skin is harder than tailed beast lol ok .
Orochimaru came back to life from Sasuke lol . In 1 vs 1 match from where he will come back to life ?

lol i didnt insult u xD lol i cant hold laught when u surprised when u heard that part 1 Oro's durability is much better than Zetsu Obito's lol Orochimaru Tanked Tsunade's punch same punch which cracked Madara's susano... how can u compare it to the Obito's durability who couldn't even tank such simple shity rasengan thats absurd right? not even close...ehhh man man u need to reread whole Manga from start and try to understand something...

 

[Vapid]

l0l at the amount of people completely disregarding the Eight Branches Technique.

And l0l at the people saying that Minato can still use BM even though he only obtained Kurama's chakra to do so when he died; in a nutshell: Alive Minato can't use KCM/BM anyway, so there's no need to restrict it.

Minato loses this.

 

[makosheva7]

l0l at the amount of people completely disregarding the Eight Branches Technique.

And l0l at the people saying that Minato can still use BM even though he only obtained Kurama's chakra to do so when he died; in a nutshell: Alive Minato can't use KCM/BM anyway, so there's no need to restrict it.

Minato loses this.

That's true people tend to disregard Eight Branches tech but at 30 m Minato will have disposed of him even without SM. And if that doesn't happen Oro still isn't touching Minato even with Eight Branches.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

l0l at the amount of people completely disregarding the Eight Branches Technique.

And l0l at the people saying that Minato can still use BM even though he only obtained Kurama's chakra to do so when he died; in a nutshell: Alive Minato can't use KCM/BM anyway, so there's no need to restrict it.

Minato loses this.

What really gets me is that they completely ignore this:

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As the more useless damage Minato can only output, the fight is already over.