[VS] Itachi enters the gauntlet

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Real answer

Stops at 5
 

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Jinchuriki are not immune to Genjutsu. They get caught in a Genjutsu like everyone else [ ]. Difference, Itachi stabs him for 72h and the Genjutsu ends before Hachibi realizes that Bee was caught in a Genjutsu.

I didn't even say they were immune. I simply said that with the support of Bijuu, they can break it. Example:

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You and the other one need to stop denying this. It's becoming ridiculous schooling kids. It ain't my job.​


Tsukuyomi can't be broken unless you have a Sharingan and Uchiha Blood, stated by Itachi. Meaning normal methods don't work. Partner Kai is a normal method. Partner Kai is what B is using. Thus it doesn't work.

But of course, you've proven your stupidity time and time again, so I'm not going to bother wasting my time after this post.

Jesus Christ!

Illusion/Genjutsu. Does. Not. Work. On. Perfect. Jinchuuriki. Get. This. Into. Your. Small. Head. It. Does. Not. Get. Any. Beyond. Simpler. Than. That.

If you cannot read and comprehend this manga factual statement, get someone who reads Naruto to do it for you. I cant help you any further than that.​
 
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Stops at 2 oro rapes no restrictions were placed on him
 

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Stops at 2 oro rapes no restrictions were placed on him

Well sh*t, Edo tensei soloes

But is Orochimaru's vision closed with distance?

Because he can pull that KA crap too, which has no limitations
 

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A counter in the long run for Genjutsu is perfect Chakra control or being a Jinchuriki. A counter in the long run for Amaterasu is having lightning speed. Not simply Bunshin.
Yet in Tsunade VS 3 tomoe Itachi threads, people including you say that his 3 tomoe genjutsu will be the bane of Tsunade's existence in that particular matchup.
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Children, haven't you been taught at school not to challenge facts or you're just too stupid?​
Was Bee not caught in infinite Tsukiyomi? BTW you are using no limits fallacy and Bee wasn't talking about Tsukiyomi, just ordinary genjutsu.

OT:

1. Jiraiya (starts in base) Itachi mid difficulty
2. Orochimaru (zetsu body) Itachi mid-high difficulty
3. Danzo Itachi mid difficulty
4. Edo Hiruzen Itachi mid difficulty
5. Minato Minato mid-high difficulty
6. KCM Naruto Naruto low-mid difficulty
7. Nagato (healthy) Nagato mid difficulty
8. EMS Sasuke Sasuke low difficulty
9. MS Obito Obito low difficulty
10. Hashirama (starts in base) Hashirama low difficulty
 

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Was Bee not caught in infinite Tsukiyomi? BTW you are using no limits fallacy and Bee wasn't talking about Tsukiyomi, just ordinary genjutsu.

Bee was not Jinchuuriki at the time. Also, IT is completely different. It's cast by the Juubi's Jinchuuriki. I was not using fallacies. I was using manga statement. No, he was talking about Genjutsu in general. Whether it's ordinary or not.​
 

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I'm gonna say he stops at 5, he'll lose that fight high diff.
 

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Stops at 3 if danzo has KA I think. On that topic:Does KA require eye contact?


No ka doesn't require eye contact, Danzo used it on mifune without taking his eye bandage
 

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He broke a Genjutsu from Sasuke, that wasn't Tsukuyomi. Even if it had been Tsukuyomi, it was no where near the level of Itachi's Tsukuyomi...so that's a null counter.

only difference between sasuke's tsuki and itachi's is the time manipulation. It is still a tsukuyomi. Tsukuyomi is just a genjutsu,except a powerful one.
 

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only difference between sasuke's tsuki and itachi's is the time manipulation. It is still a tsukuyomi. Tsukuyomi is just a genjutsu,except a powerful one.

No, its . And Sasuke does't even have Tsukuyomi. His eye powers are Kagutsuchi (Right Eye) and Amaterasu (Left Eye)

Only those with Sharingan and Uchiha Blood break out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Sasuke's Genjutsu is completely irrelevant.
 

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The exception proves the rule. Obito also controlled a perfect Jinchuriki. Normally, Bijuu free their host from a Genjutsu after realizing it like an ordinary partner. The Jinchuriki gets caught in a Genjutsu and experiences its effect, until his Bijuu disturbs his Chakra flow and frees him.

Tsukuyomi is such an exception. Bee is right, when he says that, in order to break a Genjutsu, you need a partner who distrubs your Chakra flow and snaps you out of it, which in this case is his Bijuu. But, the exception of Tsukuyomi was stated in the Manga:

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Genjutsu do affect Jinchuriki, their Bijuu just snap them out. As Tsukuyomi is, as stated by Kakashi, is instant, partner tactics won't work. Naruto also warned Bee from Tsukuyomi, despite he is a Jinchuriki.
 

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Are you guys serious? It's impossible for a Perfect Junchuriki to "break out" of a 1 second/instant Tsukuyomi. There's literally no time to react to it.

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Actually, "break out" isn't even the proper phrase. You can only be immune to an instant Tsukuyomi, and those who meet the immunity criteria are shinobis that harbor Uchiha blood + MS/Rinnegan.
 
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No, its . And Sasuke does't even have Tsukuyomi. His eye powers are Kagutsuchi (Right Eye) and Amaterasu (Left Eye)

Only those with Sharingan and Uchiha Blood break out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Sasuke's Genjutsu is completely irrelevant.

huh?,what does that scan prove?,showing me a scan of sasuke using a weak gen before clashing with danzo proves what?.

Danzo compared his tsuki to itachi's and he used it on bee and cee. Sasuke awoke susanoo before he even used enton. And i am pretty sure you need both ama and tsuki to use susanoo
 

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Danzo never compared Sasuke's Genjutsu to Itachi's; he said it's simply weaker.. Itachi can control space and time within his Genjutsu completely and that makes it impossible to free someone from it or break it. And apart from that, even if Sasuke would have a weaker Tsukuyomi, it would be still called Tsukuyomi. But he calls his Genjutsu Sharingan:Genjutsu, while Itachi refers to it as Tsukuyomi.

Stop wasting your time, you are wrong.
 

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Tsukuyomi can be broken with the Kai method, it is just that you won't have the time to. Jin's and SM Jiraiya are unaffected by it.
 

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huh?,what does that scan prove?,showing me a scan of sasuke using a weak gen before clashing with danzo proves what?.

Danzo compared his tsuki to itachi's and he used it on bee and cee. Sasuke awoke susanoo before he even used enton. And i am pretty sure you need both ama and tsuki to use susanoo

Danzo never compared Sasuke's Genjutsu to Itachi's; he said it's simply weaker.. Itachi can control space and time within his Genjutsu completely and that makes it impossible to free someone from it or break it. And apart from that, even if Sasuke would have a weaker Tsukuyomi, it would be still called Tsukuyomi. But he calls his Genjutsu Sharingan:Genjutsu, while Itachi refers to it as Tsukuyomi.

Stop wasting your time, you are wrong.

This, nothing more to say.

Tsukuyomi can be broken with the Kai method, it is just that you won't have the time to. Jin's and SM Jiraiya are unaffected by it.

Smh....as I've said to 3 other people in this same thread. Stop denying manga fact. Itachi already stated that you need to be an Uchiha with Sharingan to break out. Unless I've been reading the wrong manga, and in the correct one Jiraiya and the Jins are all Uchiha with Sharingan, then they can't break free from Tsukuyomi.

We've gone past the point of debating, now people are straight up ignoring manga fact.
 

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Actually you people didn't understand Itachi's words. It's someone inside Tsukuyomi that can't break the genjutsu because the genjutsu is simply too strong to be broken by a non-skilled Sharingan user. Someone from the outside can still break a normal tsukuyomi with the partner method, but Itachi can manipulate his tsukuyomi to the point where while torturing you during 72 in the genjutsu world, it only last seconds in the real world, not allowing the partner method to work because the partner would never have time to react in time and break it
 

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Who denied it? At the end of the day, you are f*cked.

And pls, Itachi didn't say skilled Sharingan user, he said Uchiha blood.
 

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Who denied it? At the end of the day, you are f*cked.

And pls, Itachi didn't say skilled Sharingan user, he said Uchiha blood.
The databook says skilled Sharingan users
 
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