[VS] tobirama vs 3rd raikage

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Tobirama vs 3rd raikage

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third raikage wins

--tobirama has no way of hurting him at all,,

--third raikage eventually pierces him with his hell fingered nukite
 

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3rd wins via outlasting Tobirama.
 

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Doesn't gojo blow up the raikage, or am I missing something?
 

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Doesn't gojo blow up the raikage, or am I missing something?

Gojou Kibaku Fuuda is a technique made solely for Edo Tensei. The user uses themself as a medium to continuously revive and blow up with such, but fanboys will often argue that Gojou Kibaku Fuuda can be used without Edo Tensei. Looking at this, there really is nothing Tobirama has to defeat him, considering they are both real, there really is nothing Tobirama has to harm him.
 

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Unless Tobirama can edo his brother, the 3rd wins.
 

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Gojou Kibaku Fuuda is a technique made solely for Edo Tensei. The user uses themself as a medium to continuously revive and blow up with such, but fanboys will often argue that Gojou Kibaku Fuuda can be used without Edo Tensei. Looking at this, there really is nothing Tobirama has to defeat him, considering they are both real, there really is nothing Tobirama has to harm him.
well, edo tensei isn't restricted here, so I don't really see why Tobirama couldn't use it.

I think gojou kibaku fuuda can defeat sandaime raikage. The total power of the attack is probably around that of a tailed beast bomb considering and it's not just one, but many explosions sustained for a short period of time. I highly doubt sandaime raikage is going to no sell that attack without some good damage done to him. On the defensive side, he can't hit tobirama if his faster son didn't have a shot at hitting minato, and his offense being limited to close range attacks bar maybe his unseen black lightning means Tobirama is going to have a much easier time landing his chain explosion.
 

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Gojou Kibaku Fuuda is a technique made solely for Edo Tensei. The user uses themself as a medium to continuously revive and blow up with such, but fanboys will often argue that Gojou Kibaku Fuuda can be used without Edo Tensei. Looking at this, there really is nothing Tobirama has to defeat him, considering they are both real, there really is nothing Tobirama has to harm him.

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well, edo tensei isn't restricted here, so I don't really see why Tobirama couldn't use it.

I think gojou kibaku fuuda can defeat sandaime raikage. The total power of the attack is probably around that of a tailed beast bomb considering and it's not just one, but many explosions sustained for a short period of time. I highly doubt sandaime raikage is going to no sell that attack without some good damage done to him. On the defensive side, he can't hit tobirama if his faster son didn't have a shot at hitting minato, and his offense being limited to close range attacks bar maybe his unseen black lightning means Tobirama is going to have a much easier time landing his chain explosion.

It's many explosions, but where do you get "mountain level" and TBB from? When was that relevant? And how does Gojou Kibaku Fuuda even remotely compare to TBB, which would have destroyed more than ALL of Konoha and it was a casual one at that? Lol, tobirama is not faster. [ ]

No, his chain explosions will never happen. Reread the chapter it takes required set-up [ ] which also requires the entire summoning of edo tensei which is also another set-up. Point of the matter is, my bias aside, the third fought against 10,000 average jounin shinobi and died. Tobirama? 20 elites. He also fought against the hachibi, who's destructive capacity is FAR over anything Tobirama can dish out. Literally nothing off the top tobirama has can harm the third, or catch up with him.
 

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It's many explosions, but where do you get "mountain level" and TBB from?
look at the scan i linked to. The juubilings are the size of boss summons thus using it for a size reference the explosions would be mountain level.

When was that relevant? And how does Gojou Kibaku Fuuda even remotely compare to TBB, which would have destroyed more than ALL of Konoha and it was a casual one at that? Lol, tobirama is not faster. [ ]
I'm talking about normal tailed beast bombs, the kind that any bijuu can fire, not kurama's TBB and Kurama has never fired a single TBB that is capable of encompassing konoha in its blast radius.

No, his chain explosions will never happen. Reread the chapter it takes required set-up [ ] which also requires the entire summoning of edo tensei which is also another set-up. Point of the matter is, my bias aside, the third fought against 10,000 average jounin shinobi and died. Tobirama? 20 elites.
I don't see how Tobirama can't fulfill the jutsu's requirements as edo tenseis are not restricted in this matchup. Wait a second, saying the third fought against 10,000 average jounin is biased as no where was it stated the calibre of the shinobi he fought. Tobirama's death against 20 elites was retconned since there would be logically no way he could be put into that situation if he had FTG which would have allowed him to warp himself and his team back to konoha at any time. Plus, base Sasuke was able to do defeat a thousand shinobi without even killing them and without receiving a scratch, yet he'd get wrecked by 20 elite jounin.

He also fought against the hachibi, who's destructive capacity is FAR over anything Tobirama can dish out. Literally nothing off the top tobirama has can harm the third, or catch up with him.
The hachibi's firepower means jack if he can't hit sandaime raikage with it. and The hachibi most likely never hit him with a TBB, it might have hit him with part of the explosion, but even deva path could survive being in the blast radius.

The bijuudama was hyped as something that would kill him if it hit him directly and that's further supported by the weaker Fuuton rasenshuriken blowing off his chakra shroud and giving him scratches.
 

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Gojou Kibaku Fuuda is a technique made solely for Edo Tensei. The user uses themself as a medium to continuously revive and blow up with such, but fanboys will often argue that Gojou Kibaku Fuuda can be used without Edo Tensei. Looking at this, there really is nothing Tobirama has to defeat him, considering they are both real, there really is nothing Tobirama has to harm him.

the user can use any other summoned edo tensei for this jutsu in this case for inflict damage to raikage, though I don't think that Gojou Kibaku Fuuda could bypass raikage raiton shield
 

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well, edo tensei isn't restricted here, so I don't really see why Tobirama couldn't use it.

I think gojou kibaku fuuda can defeat sandaime raikage. The total power of the attack is probably around that of a tailed beast bomb considering and it's not just one, but many explosions sustained for a short period of time. I highly doubt sandaime raikage is going to no sell that attack without some good damage done to him. On the defensive side, he can't hit tobirama if his faster son didn't have a shot at hitting minato, and his offense being limited to close range attacks bar maybe his unseen black lightning means Tobirama is going to have a much easier time landing his chain explosion.

please explain to me how can tobirama explosion jutsu do a damage to someone who was able to go head to head with the tailed beast itself
 

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3rd Raikage will either outlast or hit him. Tobirama does not use Minato's FTG style, so he can only rely on his Shunshin; but that's going to be his weakness. It was shown that his Shunshin is equal to Hashirama and Hiurzen, who are nowhere near 3rd Raikage's speed. Gojo is not passing Raikage's durability. It was implied that he survived one.​
 

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look at the scan i linked to. The juubilings are the size of boss summons thus using it for a size reference the explosions would be mountain level.


I'm talking about normal tailed beast bombs, the kind that any bijuu can fire, not kurama's TBB and Kurama has never fired a single TBB that is capable of encompassing konoha in its blast radius.


I don't see how Tobirama can't fulfill the jutsu's requirements as edo tenseis are not restricted in this matchup. Wait a second, saying the third fought against 10,000 average jounin is biased as no where was it stated the calibre of the shinobi he fought. Tobirama's death against 20 elites was retconned since there would be logically no way he could be put into that situation if he had FTG which would have allowed him to warp himself and his team back to konoha at any time. Plus, base Sasuke was able to do defeat a thousand shinobi without even killing them and without receiving a scratch, yet he'd get wrecked by 20 elite jounin.


The hachibi's firepower means jack if he can't hit sandaime raikage with it. and The hachibi most likely never hit him with a TBB, it might have hit him with part of the explosion, but even deva path could survive being in the blast radius.

The bijuudama was hyped as something that would kill him if it hit him directly and that's further supported by the weaker Fuuton rasenshuriken blowing off his chakra shroud and giving him scratches.

Lol, wrong. The juublings can be used as a reference for mountain size? Yeah, don't think so. [ ] Look at how full Kurama scales to the mountain, full kurama. Look again to see the size of the explosion. A mountain size attack, donning more than 200 entire megatons would have taken the entire field. Mountain size summons? No? [ ]

I'm talking about normal tailed beast bombs, the kind that any bijuu can fire, not kurama's TBB and Kurama has never fired a single TBB that is capable of encompassing konoha in its blast radius.
*Facepalm* [ ] [ ] Gamabunta is small-city sized at most for being nearly the width of kurama's torso. More scaling of mountain size and . Also, the tbb's fired by normal bijuu are mountain level. [ ] [ ]

Tobirama died there, obviously they recovered the body and the story was told. He had to protect his comrades, re-read the situation. If he didn't die protecting his comrades making a safe-way for them and just travelled home, they'd be dead, kagami would be dead meaning no shisui, then we don't have a big part of the series due to his influence. Third Raikage tanked 10,000 jounin shinobi for a few days, whether you like it or not.

Kinda can't dodge tbb like that if it's shot in ball form and expands. [ ]. It's also larger than the rasenshuriken, at least the size of a human body or more in ball form. You're saying tobirama can tank that basically just because deva path could? A 6 tails naruto 300 chapters ago, the TBB was from a 6 tailed naruto that Hachibi was not weaker than (Not saying hachibi can beat 6pop, but likely can beat Deva path alone.. I mean come on) They were all at the exact same location, it wasn't fired from an exact distance, and what does the speed have to do with it? The hachibi and the third fought a great battle, you're telling me a TBB didn't go off? The hachibi even commented it was hard to damage him until they finally hit heads together and he hurt himself. There is literally nothing Tobirama can do, and even if he's able to use gojou, we've established what would happen and that The Third Raikage is too fast. It isn't the summer of 13, stop wanking tobirama.
 

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Lol, wrong. The juublings can be used as a reference for mountain size? Yeah, don't think so.
[ ] Look at how full Kurama scales to the mountain, full kurama. Look again to see the size of the explosion. A mountain size attack, donning more than 200 entire megatons would have taken the entire field. Mountain size summons? No? [ ]
are you freeking kidding me right now? Since when does an object have to be mountain sized in order for you to use it as a medium for comparing another as mountain sized? If a mountain is 20x bigger than a juubiling and the explosions were 20x bigger than a juubiling, then obviously the explosions are mountain sized. The juubilings are simply there for an arbitrary size medium in order to compare the two.

I'll repeat my post in hopes that you will try and honestly comprehend the logic behind it before deciding that it's false and then trying to counter it with whatever comes first into your brain:

and therefor are mountain sized.

*Facepalm* [ ] [ ] Gamabunta is small-city sized at most for being nearly the width of kurama's torso.
Why did you post those scans? They in no way shape or form show a bijuudama that comes close to destroying konoha.

it's hardly bigger than a couple of blocks.

More scaling of mountain size and . Also, the tbb's fired by normal bijuu are mountain level. [ ] [ ]
I still don't understand how a tailed beast bomb levels konoha. None of those scans show that happening. Konoha is way way beyond 'mountain level'.

Tobirama died there, obviously they recovered the body and the story was told. He had to protect his comrades, re-read the situation. If he didn't die protecting his comrades making a safe-way for them and just travelled home, they'd be dead, kagami would be dead meaning no shisui, then we don't have a big part of the series due to his influence. Third Raikage tanked 10,000 jounin shinobi for a few days, whether you like it or not.
Autism, did you know that.... FTG allows you to If Tobirama could use FTG, he'd transport everyone back to konoha along with him, and everyone lives.

Please, oh please show me where you got Sandaime raikage fighting 10,000 JOUNIN for 3 days.

Kinda can't dodge tbb like that if it's shot in ball form and expands. [ ]. It's also larger than the rasenshuriken, at least the size of a human body or more in ball form.
Again, why did you post that link? It doesn't show the ball form expanding after being shot. Sure it's larger than rasenshuriken, but Sandaime dodged rasenshuriken at POINT BLANK, TWO TIMES, and even when it was coming behind him. The hachibi fires its TBBs from far away, and he's never going to launch one at point blank against someone was fast as sandaime raikage especially when the hachibi without a host fights like a wild animal.

You're saying tobirama can tank that basically just because deva path could?
sigh.... reading comprehension brother. I said SANDAIME could tank that at a much closer distance because deva could.

A 6 tails naruto 300 chapters ago, the TBB was from a 6 tailed naruto that Hachibi was not weaker than (Not saying hachibi can beat 6pop, but likely can beat Deva path alone.. I mean come on) They were all at the exact same location, it wasn't fired from an exact distance, and what does the speed have to do with it? The hachibi and the third fought a great battle, you're telling me a TBB didn't go off? The hachibi even commented it was hard to damage him until they finally hit heads together and he hurt himself.
6 tails naruto firing the TBBs means nothing. The hachibi and BM Naruto have shown to considerably vary their TBB's power. Sure the hachibi's maximum bijuudama is probably >>> 6 tailed naruto's max, but 6 tailed naruto's BB were not that much weaker than the hachibi's casual ones.

Sure TBB went off, it just didn't hit sandaime directly, he probably took part of the blast like deva did.

There is literally nothing Tobirama can do, and even if he's able to use gojou, we've established what would happen and that The Third Raikage is too fast. It isn't the summer of 13, stop wanking tobirama.
The third raikage is in no way too fast to get hit by tobirama. Not when Minato can easily blitz Ei, and sandaime raikage isn't as fast as his son. Not when the third is strictly CQC and therefore has to run at or shunshin at Tobirama in order to hit him. Not when a SM Naruto clone can land rasengans on sandaime raikage's arm while dodging his attack.

There is no wanking of Tobirama going on here, it's just your lack of understanding about sizes or attempting to downplay him which causes it to look like you don't understand size relations.
 
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