Isn't using Edo-Tensei on Madara a terrible idea ?

[Niwdog]

I despair when I read some comments sometimes. Tobirama can bring back Madara at any stage that he likes, even a stage weaker than MS Madara, and can completely restrict his movements if he wants to.

 

[Da Best Ever]

You don't understand. Remember when Oro brought back the first and second and they were MUCH weaker? Thats what i mean. They can do the same to Madara. And even if he rewrites the seals so what? That doesn't change the fact he would be weaker.

Llab I know what time you were referring to, and I replied you don't know how good or bad Tobirama is with edo tensei since its based on the skill level of the user on how weak or powerful the edo summons will be. Also, regardless is madara is brought back at 50% still only Hashirama would be able to stop him if he broke free for evil purposes because he might just break free because he hates Tobirama for many obvious reasons so no one wants to be controlled by someone they hate but anyway madara would still have access to susano, his fire jutsu, and sharingan abilities which still make him better than Tobirama and Minato and hiruzen since none of them can beat susano besides Hashirama, minato prior to having his arms torn off could best a weak madara you are hoping for but now since he can't do anything but ftg he won't even be able to beat this weak madara you say is going to be edo tensei.

 

[Da Best Ever]

I despair when I read some comments sometimes. Tobirama can bring back Madara at any stage that he likes, even a stage weaker than MS Madara, and can completely restrict his movements if he wants to.

Edo tensei was never shown to work in levels like you presume to think. In part 1 orochimaru had them only at 50% Tobirama said orochimaru increased his efficiency with edo tensei so now they are closer to 100% because of orochimaru's efficiency, the skill level of the user is exactly equal to how powerful the edo would be, he can't adjust and go back down and up like you think Tobirama can do.

 

[Da Best Ever]

I'm sure they'd bring him back with nowhere near as much power as he had. Orochimaru can do that, as shown when he summoned the 1st and 2nd all those years ago. And besides, I'm pretty sure Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama can beat Edo Madara.

Nope, the Part 1 edo Hashirama and Tobirama were weak because orochimaru efficiency with edo was weak even Tobirama said to orochimaru that he increased his efficiency with edo tensei this time which is why they are nearly at 100%. You say as though orochimaru tried to make part 1 edo Hashirama and Tobirama weak which is a silly ass thought because he was going against konoha and why make them weak and ultimately leaving yourself open to be beat when you can make them at their best? Why because the reason I just stated, his efficiency increased from part 1 till now which is why the edo power rose higher than part 1.

 

[Red Slayer]

Think about it for a second, that technique was the primary reason on why he went wild to begin with, having access to cutting ties with the user for his own agenda. Even though Obito is now freed from his curse mark it still makes him a dangerous target that would be incapable of staying dead.

I'm just trying to figure out the 2nd Hokage's train of thought, as much as I love him it would be quite a dangerous idea.

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Madara realease EDO TENSEI only bc that Itachi Uchiha Undo Edo Tensei and Kabuto Yakushi was traped in IZANAMI loop he wasn't controling Madara anymore... if u read Manga u would already knew that...
even more Tobirama Senjus EDO Tensei cant summon shinobi on their full power(Oro and Kabuto perfected it)even if he can do that he wont... he probably would summon Madara at his 5% power... doesn't really need to think here much right?

 

[Da Best Ever]

Obviously kishi is going to use the edo kage to help beat kaguya and why not bring Godara back as an edo tensei because he would be a lot of help, he would be the only shinobi capable of fighting kaguya since he is more powerful than naruto and sasuke combined as shown. Madara is definitely not evil anyone, he knows he was fooled this whole time by black zetsu just like obito realized he was fooled the whole time by madara and now look at obito turning over a new leaf.

 

[Red Slayer]

Tobirama should ask Kabuto what happened when he brought back Madara the first time.

Tobirama's idea was a very bad one.

KAbuto doesn't know what happend bc he was in Genjutsu(read Manga plss)

 

[Da Best Ever]

Madara realease EDO TENSEI only bc that Itachi Uchiha Undo Edo Tensei and Kabuto Yakushi was traped in IZANAMI loop he wasn't controling Madara anymore... if u read Manga u would already knew that...
even more Tobirama Senjus EDO Tensei cant summon shinobi on their full power(Oro and Kabuto perfected it)even if he can do that he wont... he probably would summon Madara at his 5% power... doesn't really need to think here much right?

Llab at you trying to be sarcastic but ended up sounding really stupid. " I would already knew that ", you can at least try and make sense.


Anyway, that is not true, madara said he broke free because he knows how to do so not because the restraint on him was weaker because Kabuto was in izanami. That's what the manga said. The manga said what madara said not whatever you misinterpreted. Also Tobirama was never shown to use eod tensei so how can you say he basically sucks at it? You can't if his usage of it was never shown, and Kabuto and orochimaru said they perfected it by their own standards, meaning they bested their use beyond part 1orochimaru's use of edo tensei when compared to that, in fact Kabuto said that exact thing give or take a few words but he basically said he is better than part 1orochimaru and used that comparison to say he perfected it. Also, even now it is not perfected because the edo hokage are not full power close but not full power as stated by Tobirama so that again proves orochimaru did not perfect it.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Madara realease EDO TENSEI only bc that Itachi Uchiha Undo Edo Tensei and Kabuto Yakushi was traped in IZANAMI loop he wasn't controling Madara anymore... if u read Manga u would already knew that...
even more Tobirama Senjus EDO Tensei cant summon shinobi on their full power(Oro and Kabuto perfected it)even if he can do that he wont... he probably would summon Madara at his 5% power... doesn't really need to think here much right?

In that scan madara said that because he knows how to break free of it and is basically saying you shouldn't use a jutsu like this on someone like him, later or contested the same thing, telling Tobirama he should never created edo tensei basically blaming Tobirama for a free edo madara.

 

[Red Slayer]

Llab at you trying to be sarcastic but ended up sounding really stupid. " I would already knew that ", you can at least try and make sense.


Anyway, that is not true, madara said he broke free because he knows how to do so not because the restraint on him was weaker because Kabuto was in izanami. That's what the manga said. The manga said what madara said not whatever you misinterpreted. Also Tobirama was never shown to use eod tensei so how can you say he basically sucks at it? You can't if his usage of it was never shown, and Kabuto and orochimaru said they perfected it by their own standards, meaning they bested their use beyond part 1orochimaru's use of edo tensei when compared to that, in fact Kabuto said that exact thing give or take a few words but he basically said he is better than part 1orochimaru and used that comparison to say he perfected it. Also, even now it is not perfected because the edo hokage are not full power close but not full power as stated by Tobirama so that again proves orochimaru did not perfect it.

1)bahah i never tryed to be sarcastic
2)give me proof that Madara can use ET release when he is controled by someone
3)lol u dumb Oro perfected Tobirama version and Kabuto perefected Oro version...than Oro also use same version ET as Kabuto..
ur dumb opinion<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Manga fact... go cry

 

[HiddenSound]

Nope, the Part 1 edo Hashirama and Tobirama were weak because orochimaru efficiency with edo was weak even Tobirama said to orochimaru that he increased his efficiency with edo tensei this time which is why they are nearly at 100%. You say as though orochimaru tried to make part 1 edo Hashirama and Tobirama weak which is a silly ass thought because he was going against konoha and why make them weak and ultimately leaving yourself open to be beat when you can make them at their best? Why because the reason I just stated, his efficiency increased from part 1 till now which is why the edo power rose higher than part 1.

Okay. Or he knew he knew he wouldn't be able to control them at full power and decided to weaken them enough to fully control them. Orochimaru chose to be more accurate and give them more power this time. He wouldn't be able to train with Edo Tensei because he didn't have that Jutsu after the Invasion of Konoha.
So, users of Edo Tensei can choose to weaken the reanimated shinobi if they choose to. But still, even if I'm wrong, which I doubt, Hashirama and Tobirama can just beat Madara into submission.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Madara realease EDO TENSEI only bc that Itachi Uchiha Undo Edo Tensei and Kabuto Yakushi was traped in IZANAMI loop he wasn't controling Madara anymore... if u read Manga u would already knew that...
even more Tobirama Senjus EDO Tensei cant summon shinobi on their full power(Oro and Kabuto perfected it)even if he can do that he wont... he probably would summon Madara at his 5% power... doesn't really need to think here much right?

1)bahah i never tryed to be sarcastic
2)give me proof that Madara can use ET release when he is controled by someone
3)lol u dumb Oro perfected Tobirama version and Kabuto perefected Oro version...than Oro also use same version ET as Kabuto..
ur dumb opinion<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Manga fact... go cry

Kids ahahaha hahaha llab

2. You didn't read what you just posted. You said " Show proof of madara releasing from edo tensei while being controlled ". Clearly you didn't read because he did do so while being controlled, as you know Kabuto is the one who released edo tensei

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as shown in this scan. Meaning Kabuto still had control and possession over edo tensei, meaning edo madara was still controlled before he broke himself free. Bodied

3. I said Kabuto perfected orochimaru's part 1 use of edo tensei but you can't read so I understand why you missed that. Still besting imperfections doesn't mean he mastered it, he just got better than part 1 orochimaru. As for orochimaru now, he obviously didn't perfect it because the edo hokage are not at 100% as stated by Tobirama that proves non mastery.

Your ignorance amuses me.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Okay. Or he knew he knew he wouldn't be able to control them at full power and decided to weaken them enough to fully control them. Orochimaru chose to be more accurate and give them more power this time. He wouldn't be able to train with Edo Tensei because he didn't have that Jutsu after the Invasion of Konoha.
So, users of Edo Tensei can choose to weaken the reanimated shinobi if they choose to. But still, even if I'm wrong, which I doubt, Hashirama and Tobirama can just beat Madara into submission.

No in the part about orochimaru choosing to bring them back at less power than 100%. He wasn't taking precautions not bringing them back at full power, his precautions was using Hashirama's dna to enhance edo tensei and it worked on all but Hashirama of course so that defeats you saying he was scared to bring them back at full power because of the backlash they could cause.


As for the rest Tobirama can't beat any version of madara but 3 tomoe and under. Also why not bring him back at 100% he would be Godara and would be the closest to kaguya in power and would make it way easier to beat her. I'm sure he realized he was fooled this whole time and is now not evil just like obito realized he was fooled and is now not veil and if they beat kaguya and Godara is still evil current sasuke and naruto would have a way easier time beating Godara than they do with kaguya who is more powerful than Godara.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Damn my bad y'all this debate is going well but I have to let my phone charge...my bad I really like soloing but my phone is about to die so some of y'all escape inner turmoil. I'll be back in like 30 minutes so don't talk shit while I'm gone.

 

[Red Slayer]

Kids ahahaha hahaha llab

2. You didn't read what you just posted. You said " Show proof of madara releasing from edo tensei while being controlled ". Clearly you didn't read because he did do so while being controlled, as you know Kabuto is the one who released edo tensei

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as shown in this scan. Meaning Kabuto still had control and possession over edo tensei, meaning edo madara was still controlled before he broke himself free. Bodied

3. I said Kabuto perfected orochimaru's part 1 use of edo tensei but you can't read so I understand why you missed that. Still besting imperfections doesn't mean he mastered it, he just got better than part 1 orochimaru. As for orochimaru now, he obviously didn't perfect it because the edo hokage are not at 100% as stated by Tobirama that proves non mastery.

Your ignorance amuses me.

1)omg u just show me scan where Itachi undo Kabuto ET.. do you know what that means? Kabuto lost control all of his Edo Shinobi... Madara desaparing when he4d release Edo Tensei(Kabuto wasn't in this world when Madara did that... he was in Izanami loop... are u really that dumb? or just Trolling as hard AS U CAN?

2)Manga said he perfected so i dont really care about u and ur dumb opinions...


bye

 

[HiddenSound]

No in the part about orochimaru choosing to bring them back at less power than 100%. He wasn't taking precautions not bringing them back at full power, his precautions was using Hashirama's dna to enhance edo tensei and it worked on all but Hashirama of course so that defeats you saying he was scared to bring them back at full power because of the backlash they could cause.


As for the rest Tobirama can't beat any version of madara but 3 tomoe and under. Also why not bring him back at 100% he would be Godara and would be the closest to kaguya in power and would make it way easier to beat her. I'm sure he realized he was fooled this whole time and is now not evil just like obito realized he was fooled and is now not veil and if they beat kaguya and Godara is still evil current sasuke and naruto would have a way easier time beating Godara than they do with kaguya who is more powerful than Godara.

He didn't want to bring them back at full power in Part 1. Because he didn't have Senju DNA making up his body.

Tobirama > MS Madara
Hashirama and Tobirama >> any form of normal Madara.
Why not bring him back at full power? Because they can't f*cking trust him :|

 

[Xāvî1]

i think its a good idea to revive and tell him the truth!

 

[Penguin]

Tobirama doesn't bring the edo back at full power. Come on people, pretend you read the manga before. Orochimaru stated his part one edo tensei, which was shit, was superior to Tobirama's. SM Naruto could roflstomp Madara if Tobirama edo tensei'd him.

 

[ShiroT]

Not with Madara and Hashirama, the latter of which has broken his ties with Orochimaru(as presently seen in the current anime episode).

madara only broke out because kabuto didnt control him. hashirama was only able to break out because orochimaru revived him close to full power.

if tobirama is in control and revives him as a fodder then there is no problem

 

[KingHashirama]

Tobirama doesn't bring the edo back at full power. Come on people, pretend you read the manga before. Orochimaru stated his part one edo tensei, which was shit, was superior to Tobirama's. SM Naruto could roflstomp Madara if Tobirama edo tensei'd him.

That was never stated. o-o