[Theory] Hamura was a Sage too! The Yin Seal! Sage Transformation?

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In this theory I predict that Hamura was a Sage like his brother Hagaromo, however one used Six Paths Senjutsu and the other Sage Transformation.

Hagaromo's Senjustu of Six Paths: It seems that the Juubi jin (Obito and Madara) and Naruto after gaining the Yang half of Hagaromo's power have been able to Senjutsu of Six Paths, allowing them to fly and create Truth Seeking Balls.

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We know that the Truth Seeking Balls utilize Senjutsu chakra along with other chakra natures, yet in order to use Senjutsu Chakra or techniques one must first collect "Nature Chakra" and blend it with your own chakra. Doing this requires stillness and concentration resulting in what is known as Sage Mode.

However those who utilize the senjutsu of Six Paths do not have this drawback, as they can control the Truth Seeking Balls, Flight, and Sage Justu without the need to concentrate on collecting Nature Energy. Which leads me to believe that those they have gained the power to passively collect Nature Energy.

Sounds like a certain clan right? (Jugo's Clan can passively absorb natural energy)
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This leads me to believe that Jugo's Clan may be linked to this ability. However as stated, Oro tracked this ability and it lead to the Ryuchi Cave (Which is One of the Legendary places where one can learn to enter Sage Mode and use Senjutsu). However Hagaromo has only been known to have contact with the Great Toad Sage.. Not White Snake Sage.

You probably wondering what any of this has to do with Hamura.. Well the link is pretty simple Yin Chakra (Techniques), Horns, and Toads/Snakes relationship... Let me elaborate.

The Yang Release techniques are based on the physical energy that governs vitality, "Jutsu of the Body" also called Earth
The Yin Release techniques are based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, "Justu of the Mind" also called Heaven

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After learning to use Senjutsu Chakra at the Ryuchi Cave, Kabuto gained access to Sage Mode, and Sage jutsu.. just as Naruto/ Jiriyah learned at Mt. Myoboku. However the two perfect sage modes contrast in comparison.. beyond the basics of enhanced jutsu and reflexes.

Naruto's True Toad Sage Mode:
  • physical attacks and strength increased to a level where even blocking a kick resulted in deva path getting completely knocked back,
  • Punch was dodged by Preta and still hit because "nature was on his side"
This leads me to believe that the Senjutsu of the Toads is variant with Yang release and greatly increases one physical energy.

Kabuto's "Dragon" Snake Sage Mode:
  • Kabuto gained access to a technique that allowed him to take control of inanimate objects around him and bend, shape, and even give them "life" according to his will.
Leading me to believe Snake Senjutsu is variant with Yin release and greatly increases one spiritual energy.

Although not yet confirmed I believe Hamura most likely had contact with the White Snake Sage. In opposition to Hagaromo having contact with the Great Toad Sage, considering they have been in opposition of each other through out the series and correspond as aspects of Naru/Sas, (Oro/J-Man too) and currently the two known species known to teach the ways of Senjutsu.
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Note: Gamamaru is the name of the Great Toad Sage

Upon gaining the power Senjutsu of the Six Paths Naruto, Madara, and Obito gained horn like appearances similar to Hagaromo.
Naruto:
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Obito:
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Upon gaining access to True Snake Sage Mode or "Dragon" Sage Mode, Kabuto gets horns on his head but guess who's DNA he used to continuously gain nature chakra.. Yes Jugo!!. In this case, Similar to Hamura.. Kabuto gets horns!

Considering I doubt Hagaromo befriended both the Snakes and the Toads since they are usually enemies had have been throughout the series unless brought together by their summoners.

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I believe it's possible that Jugo Clan's "Sage Transformation" most likely descended from Hamura, and that He himself could use Sage Transformations (Yin Variant) in contrast to his brother, Hagaromo's Sage Senjutsu (Yang Variant) abilities and that both brothers could passively collect Nature Energy, just used in different forms.

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This is also probably why Sasuke Uchiha was compatible with the Curse Seal of Heaven (Yin Chakra), version of Jugo's Clan's Kekkei Genkei and given the Yin Seal by Hagaromo. (It most likely originally belonged to Hamura since it took both him and Hagoromo to seal Kaguya/ Ten Tails, with these markings... Or else Hagoromo would have done it alone).

Thoughts? I haven't been on in a while so I'm a little rusty at posts.

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I trought it was clear like sky :|

Great theory tho
 

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Plausible and solid. We'll have to wait forever to find out though... Damn breaks...
 

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I trought it was clear like sky :|

Great theory tho

Thanks!!
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Thanks alot yo
 

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Taggin this to read later, seems interesting
 

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Good Job. We will know more in the next couple manga.
 

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I like it. I thought that the SO6P might have actually created the Toad Sages in the same way he created the tailed beasts. Spread peace and all of that.
 

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I like it. I thought that the SO6P might have actually created the Toad Sages in the same way he created the tailed beasts. Spread peace and all of that.

Nice Sig man

OT: I'm glad you liked it bro! I thought so at first until I read that chapter, but still with Kishi you never know. xd
 

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But how is Kabuto's Sage Mode a "Yin variant" while it grants him the ability to breath life into objects , a concept that's been usually related to the Yang element ?Isn't the Yin element related to imagination/illusion/creation of unphysical forms ?
 

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But how is Kabuto's Sage Mode a "Yin variant" while it grants him the ability to breath life into objects , a concept that's been usually related to the Yang element ?Isn't the Yin element related to imagination/illusion/creation of unphysical forms ?

Good Catch!!! :p

More accurately the Yang variant is described to "breathe life in to form" A good example is when naruto used this ability on kakashi's eye... After receiving Yang chakra from Hagaromo.

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Naruto can't necessarily describe what he has done.. but it is clear that he didn't make it from nothing.. He took life and gave it form.. possibly, lifeforce energy maybe even chakra we won't know for sure until proven in the manga.

IMO Kabuto more or less changed reality.. in a similar fashion as how genjutsu, except forreal, and got the rocks to move how he wanted them to, seeming as if they were "alive", but they didn't move on their own.. breathe etc... just stretched the pierce an Edo Itachi.
 
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