[Discussion] Question for OP fans or sabo fans

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

What has sabo shown to put him legibly > dofflamingo ?

Like any feats u guys can show me or something because I'm completely loss and this has been repeated a lot I'm just curious on why u feel like that

Cuz from what I've seen sabo beat fodder in turner stole fire fire fruit
Fodderized vice admiral since coming to dressrosa
Clashed with Fuji

Doffy has
Babyshaked smoker who by feats is superior to the one sabo Fodderized
Fodderize sanji (another one who by feats is superior)
Mid diff law someone who is on luffy level if not a tad bit stronger then him
And punked luffy (wasn't fair or full fight but life isn't fair even in OP world if it were ace would b alive U_U)

So yeah can someone explain this to me and if u say hype :| jokers reputation and what he has achieved in the OP vers is >>> sabo being dragon right hand man (also note both ivankov and kuma r not there and sabo is luffy so called "brother" so obviously he would b close with dragon U_U people treat this as if it is a feat I mean we don't even know the context of how he is second in command he could be a strategist or something idk and no I don't think he's weak I think at very least he is at luffy law level at very least, but ppl r automatically putting him over the likes of doffy Marco etc makes me look sideways )

So yeah what makes him > doffy and Marco for that example

 

[Punk Hazard]

He's holding back thousands of Marine foot soldiers, a Vice Admiral and an Admiral.

 

[Lord Tywin]

he stopped an admiral and his crew from advancing and getting in luffy's way. I would say he right now mid diffs luffy

 

[Lt Fresh]

I have no clue why people think Sabo is stronger than Doffy. I'm having a hard time seeing how Sabo is stronger than Luffy. Everything Sabo has done so far Luffy could have done, hell even Zoro could have done what Sabo has done imo.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Luffy will beat Doffy so he gets put over him and Sabo has shown crazy hand to hand, he's 2nd in command of a massive fighting force and I have to assume he's been training to fight these specific people in the WG as a Rev and one of the stronger and top tiers at that. I believe Dragon expected himself Sabo Ivan scissor guy Kuma and a Yonko or two plus others we don't know about yet to go against the Shichibukai and Admirals. But yeah all that plus he has a new fancy DF to work out, if he wasn't before then once he figures out the mera mera he will be.

If you had bothered to return to the thread to get your answers rather than making this one right away you'd have seen it.

 

[dcamazin1021]

I wouldnt say sabo is stronger than doffy but he's def on the same lv as doffy

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Luffy will beat Doffy so he gets put over him and Sabo has shown crazy hand to hand, he's 2nd in command of a massive fighting force and I have to assume he's been training to fight these specific people in the WG as a Rev and one of the stronger and top tiers at that. I believe Dragon expected himself Sabo Ivan scissor guy Kuma and a Yonko or two plus others we don't know about yet to go against the Shichibukai and Admirals. But yeah all that plus he has a new fancy DF to work out, if he wasn't before then once he figures out the mera mera he will be.

If you had bothered to return to the thread to get your answers rather than making this one right away you'd have seen it.

U dnt kno if luffy beats doffy or not who knows he could b like kuma or big Mam finally invades and the comments made on other thread
Was not only reason why making this thread..

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

he stopped an admiral and his crew from advancing and getting in luffy's way. I would say he right now mid diffs luffy

.-. Fuji wasn't really moving anywhere in fact he was stopping ppl from moving if I recall idk why ppl act as if Fuji was headed somewhere and sabo literally stopped him

Fuji team is made up of fodder

The people doffy was hiding away r way > Fuji marine squad

U could say doffy was holding back from leaving the island for years -_-

 

[chopstickchakra]

U dnt kno if luffy beats doffy or not who knows he could b like kuma or big Mam finally invades and the comments made on other thread
Was not only reason why making this thread..

No we don't know but until it doesn't happen I'm assuming they're over Doffy. I still say Sabo is regardless as a Rev he should be training specifically to fight the WG's big guns which are Admirals and Shichibukai so I can't imagine Sabo and Dragon etc. don't know the weaknesses of them. Sabo hasn't been around long enough to get feats yet or beat anyone who has feats like Doffy beat Sanji and Law so all we really have is speculation and hype for now.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

He's holding back thousands of Marine foot soldiers, a Vice Admiral and an Admiral.

Doffy is holding back the part of the straw hat crew law sabo parts of revaluations squad
1,000 of pirates at lot of ppl with > 200 mill bounty kyros king and his cicitens chinjao cavendish Rebecca
Sabo himself and Fuji who is an admiral from leaving the island

What sabo is doing is minuscule to what doffy is doing in terms of holding ppl somewhere

Mind u he is holding all these ppl with one I repeat one move again please give me logical reason on why sabo is even remotely > doffy?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

No we don't know but until it doesn't happen I'm assuming they're over Doffy. I still say Sabo is regardless as a Rev he should be training specifically to fight the WG's big guns which are Admirals and Shichibukai so I can't imagine Sabo and Dragon etc. don't know the weaknesses of them. Sabo hasn't been around long enough to get feats yet or beat anyone who has feats like Doffy beat Sanji and Law so all we really have is speculation and hype for now.

Doffy has been training longer then sabo has lived -_- and u say sabo hasn't been around long enough well for one why is everyone jumping to conclusion and 2 this is first arc doffy has even remotely fought against ppl -.-


Also u just said until it "doesn't happen" what does tht mean ?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I wouldnt say sabo is stronger than doffy but he's def on the same lv as doffy

Please explain why u feel this way ?

 

[shon93]

First of all Sabo is the "second in command" of the RA. My respect from Sabo stems from the Dragon hype. I have Dragon as the 1st or 2nd strongest character in the verse. Now in my opinion Sabo's rank doesn't only come from being a strategist. I feel Sabo and Dragon has a Guy and Rocklee kind of relationship. Meaning Dragon probably trained him for 10 years to become admiral level.....so he's confident in Sabo's ability to command his army and be imposing..because he is a protege of Dragon

Sabo is a very bad matchup for Doflamingo in my opinion because when he stepped on this island he should have been close to admiral level and now all of his techniques have been upgraded by fire. Sabo could easily grab Doflamingo's strings with his talons and hit him across his face with that hakified flaming pipe. I don't even think Doflamingo could even attach strings to Sabo and control him because he is a logia.

But the most impressive thing from Sabo so far to me is he has done everything basically using his fingers so casually

1)He broke Burgess Hakifed armour casually..Imagine if Sabo didn't aim for Burgess armour but his did it on his skull instead
2)He brake a ring with his fingers and made the water level rise all around it the same ring that could take destructive attacks like Kings Punch and DCJ continent busters
3)He snapped a Top seat holder in Doffy's crew Diamante sword like it was a twig
4)He destroyed a Veteran Vice admiral only using his fingers in 3 seconds ...he snapped his sword and crushed his face
5)He's fighting Fugitora and he held off all those Marines with no doubt and he's brimming with confidence

Honestly I feel he have yet to see even 20% of Sabo's non DF powers..he only showed us 2 Dragons techs and his pipe..if you think thats it then there is clearly something wrong with you. And with the Dragon's Breath and Dragon Claw he were already impressed because they were very casual and effortless moves

The thing what some of you Doffy fanboys need to understand is Doflamingo only talks to Fugi the way he does because Fugi can't touch him..so he's like a spoil little kid. On punk hazard Doflamingo proved that he knows his place in the OP world..he didn't bother to clash with Aokiji because there is no WG stopping Aokiji from kicking his ass offf the island.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Doffy has been training longer then sabo has lived -_- and u say sabo hasn't been around long enough well for one why is everyone jumping to conclusion and 2 this is first arc doffy has even remotely fought against ppl -.-


Also u just said until it "doesn't happen" what does tht mean ?

I said Luffy will beat Doffy you said he may not So I said until he doesn't beat Doflamingo I'm assuming he will.

1. I told you why we're jumping to conclusions it's because Dragon a character recognized as being top 5 recognizes Sabo enough to make him number 2, over Ivan even who held back a bunch of people at MF.

2. You said it yourself though the people Doffy is getting victories over have feats already so by extension it makes him seem better. Sabo beat one of DF's crew who despite being said to be strong all we saw is him losing, he beat a Marine(va I think, Bastille) who again had no role prior. Just becaue the people Sabo is beating have no past events doesn't make them weak or belittle the accomplishment.

Doffy may have been training longer but Sabo (should have) trained more accurately for his enemies. Sabo knows about Doffy but Doffy didn't know about Sabo so Sabo could do research prior while Doffy would go in blind meaning Sabo could have known a weakness from intel gathered by Dragon.

 

[shon93]

I said Luffy will beat Doffy you said he may not So I said until he doesn't beat Doflamingo I'm assuming he will.

1. I told you why we're jumping to conclusions it's because Dragon a character recognized as being top 5 recognizes Sabo enough to make him number 2, over Ivan even who held back a bunch of people at MF.

2. You said it yourself though the people Doffy is getting victories over have feats already so by extension it makes him seem better. Sabo beat one of DF's crew who despite being said to be strong all we saw is him losing, he beat a Marine(va I think, Bastille) who again had no role prior. Just becaue the people Sabo is beating have no past events doesn't make them weak or belittle the accomplishment.

Doffy may have been training longer but Sabo (should have) trained more accurately for his enemies. Sabo knows about Doffy but Doffy didn't know about Sabo so Sabo could do research prior while Doffy would go in blind meaning Sabo could have known a weakness from intel gathered by Dragon.

The thing with Sabo is people are getting it twisted because of his age. He is not the main charcater and we didn't see his journey to how he became powerful...so Doffy age over Sabo is invalid in my opinion. I feel if this was Ben Beckman,Kaido or Big Moms 1st mate this would be a non debatable subject. But because this is big brother Sabo..we now need feats right.,....loll this is Dragons right hand man whether people like it or not and if he were weaker than Doffy...the RA is irrelevant in my opinion..considering there goal is to take out the WG

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

First of all Sabo is the "second in command" of the RA. My respect from Sabo stems from the Dragon hype. I have Dragon as the 1st or 2nd strongest character in the verse. Now in my opinion Sabo's rank doesn't only come from being a strategist. I feel Sabo and Dragon has a Guy and Rocklee kind of relationship. Meaning Dragon probably trained him for 10 years to become admiral level.....so he's confident in Sabo's ability to command his army and be imposing..because he is a protege of Dragon

Sabo is a very bad matchup for Doflamingo in my opinion because when he stepped on this island he should have been close to admiral level and now all of his techniques have been upgraded by fire. Sabo could easily grab Doflamingo's strings with his talons and hit him across his face with that hakified flaming pipe. I don't even think Doflamingo could even attach strings to Sabo and control him because he is a logia.

But the most impressive thing from Sabo so far to me is he has done everything basically using his fingers so casually

1)He broke Burgess Hakifed armour casually..Imagine if Sabo didn't aim for Burgess armour but his did it on his skull instead
2)He brake a ring with his fingers and made the water level rise all around it the same ring that could take destructive attacks like Kings Punch and DCJ continent busters
3)He snapped a Top seat holder in Doffy's crew Diamante sword like it was a twig
4)He destroyed a Veteran Vice admiral only using his fingers in 3 seconds ...he snapped his sword and crushed his face
5)He's fighting Fugitora and he held off all those Marines with no doubt and he's brimming with confidence

Honestly I feel he have yet to see even 20% of Sabo's non DF powers..he only showed us 2 Dragons techs and his pipe..if you think thats it then there is clearly something wrong with you. And with the Dragon's Breath and Dragon Claw he were already impressed because they were very casual and effortless moves

The thing what some of you Doffy fanboys need to understand is Doflamingo only talks to Fugi the way he does because Fugi can't touch him..so he's like a spoil little kid. On punk hazard Doflamingo proved that he knows his place in the OP world..he didn't bother to clash with Aokiji because there is no WG stopping Aokiji from kicking his ass offf the island.

First off not doffy fanboy love doffy but he's 4th fav after sanji fav being law then kuma with brain then sanji then doffy

Second respect ur opinion

Now let's get to meat of this

All u have said is speculation


Imma address this first

"Sabo is a very bad matchup for Doflamingo in my opinion because when he stepped on this island he should have been close to admiral level and now all of his techniques have been upgraded by fire. Sabo could easily grab Doflamingo's strings with his talons and hit him across his face with that hakified flaming pipe. I don't even think Doflamingo could even attach strings to Sabo and control him because he is a logia."

1 doffy has all 3 types of Haki and has shown to b master at them ...
2 sabo cannot control his fruit
3 seeing as u r going by speculation I will use same method for this point sabo has not shown Haki any where the level that vergo has shown vergo is obviously under doffy now in terms of Haki we dnt know but it can b implied that at very least doffy ardmat Haki is stronger why because if vergo did have a stronger Haki (tht type) then doffy why follow him? Vergo wouldn't even get hurt by doffy strings as it would negate it
4 as for easily grabbing his strings u really need to look up doffy abilities seriously for one Fuji metor did shit to doffy think law couldn't cut them was easily able to hold diamond jozu in place and bisect croco boy who is Lugia as well etc so for your while speculation that doffy can't hit Lugia is stupid and invalid AND made me lose even more faith jn sabo fanboys U_U

As for the whole revelutionary thing once again we don't know what context and the shit doffy has done is > that hype that sabo receives (before u get ur Jammie's rustled notice I said sabo not revolutionary army or dragon I'm saying sabos hype especially since neither ivankov or kuma is in it at moment as far as we know)

The feats
"1)He broke Burgess Hakifed armour casually..Imagine if Sabo didn't aim for Burgess armour but his did it on his skull instead
2)He brake a ring with his fingers and made the water level rise all around it the same ring that could take destructive attacks like Kings Punch and DCJ continent busters
3)He snapped a Top seat holder in Doffy's crew Diamante sword like it was a twig
4)He destroyed a Veteran Vice admiral only using his fingers in 3 seconds ...he snapped his sword and crushed his face
5)He's fighting Fugitora and he held off all those Marines with no doubt and he's brimming with confidence"

Well doffys feats from what we have seen and we haven't seen everything from doffy

Easily cut through orz junior leg like butter
Stopped diamond jozu one of highest captains in WB crew and one with arguably strongest defense surely tht > anything sabo can produce and forced him to fight his mates
Beheaded crocodile
Neg diff moria (tho he was weakned or w.e)
Babyshaked sanji
Fodderize smoker
Mid diff law
Clashed with Fuji
Handled luffy (wasn't full fight etc)

On top of that Doffy is holding back the part of the straw hat crew law sabo parts of revaluations squad
1,000 of pirates at lot of ppl with > 200 mill bounty kyros king and his cicitens chinjao cavendish Rebecca
Sabo himself and Fuji who is an admiral from leaving the island

What sabo is doing is minuscule to what doffy is doing in terms of holding ppl somewhere

Mind u he is holding all these ppl with one I repeat one move again please give me logical reason on why sabo is even remotely > doffy?

There is clearly something wrong with u (quoted from your thing) as it is obvious we haven't seen all of sabo but same thing implies to doffy as well even the ****ing straw hats and law nobody since new world started has gone all out yet-_-

As for akoiji comment really doffy was only one we have seen to break from akoiji's ice so that is a feat in it's self

And clearly u forgot that doffy was looking for straw hats and law to find Caesar so kaido doesn't figure out something happened to smile creator U_U so yeah b4 u call someone a doffy fanboy get ur facts straight :|


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[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I said Luffy will beat Doffy you said he may not So I said until he doesn't beat Doflamingo I'm assuming he will.

1. I told you why we're jumping to conclusions it's because Dragon a character recognized as being top 5 recognizes Sabo enough to make him number 2, over Ivan even who held back a bunch of people at MF.

2. You said it yourself though the people Doffy is getting victories over have feats already so by extension it makes him seem better. Sabo beat one of DF's crew who despite being said to be strong all we saw is him losing, he beat a Marine(va I think, Bastille) who again had no role prior. Just becaue the people Sabo is beating have no past events doesn't make them weak or belittle the accomplishment.

Doffy may have been training longer but Sabo (should have) trained more accurately for his enemies. Sabo knows about Doffy but Doffy didn't know about Sabo so Sabo could do research prior while Doffy would go in blind meaning Sabo could have known a weakness from intel gathered by Dragon.

Did he not give sabo a bounty ?
So I think it's safe to say he knows about sabo also sabo doesn't really know anything about doffy abilities or anything he has done because he has kept it secret for 10 years and it is now coming light tht is invalid


The thing about Ivan both him and kuma were out of the army b4 sabo joined so for u to say that is invalid as well

 

[shon93]

First off not doffy fanboy love doffy but he's 4th fav after sanji fav being law then kuma with brain then sanji then doffy

Second respect ur opinion

Now let's get to meat of this

All u have said is speculation


Imma address this first

"Sabo is a very bad matchup for Doflamingo in my opinion because when he stepped on this island he should have been close to admiral level and now all of his techniques have been upgraded by fire. Sabo could easily grab Doflamingo's strings with his talons and hit him across his face with that hakified flaming pipe. I don't even think Doflamingo could even attach strings to Sabo and control him because he is a logia."

1 doffy has all 3 types of Haki and has shown to b master at them ...
2 sabo cannot control his fruit
3 seeing as u r going by speculation I will use same method for this point sabo has not shown Haki any where the level that vergo has shown vergo is obviously under doffy now in terms of Haki we dnt know but it can b implied that at very least doffy ardmat Haki is stronger why because if vergo did have a stronger Haki (tht type) then doffy why follow him? Vergo wouldn't even get hurt by doffy strings as it would negate it
4 as for easily grabbing his strings u really need to look up doffy abilities seriously for one Fuji metor did shit to doffy think law couldn't cut them was easily able to hold diamond jozu in place and bisect croco boy who is Lugia as well etc so for your while speculation that doffy can't hit Lugia is stupid and invalid AND made me lose even more faith jn sabo fanboys U_U

As for the whole revelutionary thing once again we don't know what context and the shit doffy has done is > that hype that sabo receives (before u get ur Jammie's rustled notice I said sabo not revolutionary army or dragon I'm saying sabos hype especially since neither ivankov or kuma is in it at moment as far as we know)

The feats
"1)He broke Burgess Hakifed armour casually..Imagine if Sabo didn't aim for Burgess armour but his did it on his skull instead
2)He brake a ring with his fingers and made the water level rise all around it the same ring that could take destructive attacks like Kings Punch and DCJ continent busters
3)He snapped a Top seat holder in Doffy's crew Diamante sword like it was a twig
4)He destroyed a Veteran Vice admiral only using his fingers in 3 seconds ...he snapped his sword and crushed his face
5)He's fighting Fugitora and he held off all those Marines with no doubt and he's brimming with confidence"

Well doffys feats from what we have seen and we haven't seen everything from doffy

Easily cut through orz junior leg like butter
Stopped diamond jozu one of highest captains in WB crew and one with arguably strongest defense surely tht > anything sabo can produce and forced him to fight his mates
Beheaded crocodile
Neg diff moria (tho he was weakned or w.e)
Babyshaked sanji
Fodderize smoker
Mid diff law
Clashed with Fuji
Handled luffy (wasn't full fight etc)

On top of that Doffy is holding back the part of the straw hat crew law sabo parts of revaluations squad
1,000 of pirates at lot of ppl with > 200 mill bounty kyros king and his cicitens chinjao cavendish Rebecca
Sabo himself and Fuji who is an admiral from leaving the island

What sabo is doing is minuscule to what doffy is doing in terms of holding ppl somewhere

Mind u he is holding all these ppl with one I repeat one move again please give me logical reason on why sabo is even remotely > doffy?

There is clearly something wrong with u (quoted from your thing) as it is obvious we haven't seen all of sabo but same thing implies to doffy as well even the ****ing straw hats and law nobody since new world started has gone all out yet-_-

As for akoiji comment really doffy was only one we have seen to break from akoiji's ice so that is a feat in it's self

And clearly u forgot that doffy was looking for straw hats and law to find Caesar so kaido doesn't figure out something happened to smile creator U_U so yeah b4 u call someone a doffy fanboy get ur facts straight :|


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Oooo I'll have some fun today off of you

1)Doflamingo has 3 kinds of Haki and he has shown all of his cards. The scary thing about Sabo is we don't know what he has people he has only used 3 fingers on everyones

2)Vergo does not have stronger haki the Sabo. Just because you can go fullbody that doesn't mean shit bro. Having fullbody doesn't change the quality of your haki one bit. Sabo is a man that can crack skulls and break swords with three fingers casually that is way impressive than Vergo's haki..because regradless if he call his hand Talons they are still hands bro. The same hands that breaked the 1st dinvision commander of the BB crew armour like it wasn't shit and snapped Diamente sword. All Vergo did was beat Sanji and beat Smoker who just learned haki and got in the NW

3)I believe Sabo could easily grab those strings because nothing has shown otherwise.How can you bring meteors down on something sharp and not expect it to shred. Sabo also could add flames to his talons to make grabbing the strings way easier

Easily cut through orz junior leg like butter
Stopped diamond jozu one of highest captains in WB crew and one with arguably strongest defense surely tht > anything sabo can produce and forced him to fight his mates
Beheaded crocodile
Neg diff moria (tho he was weakned or w.e)
Babyshaked sanji
Fodderize smoker
Mid diff law
Clashed with Fuji
Handled luffy (wasn't full fight etc)

1)I agree he cut the feet of the biggest target in MF and stopped Jozu when he wasn't looking...what a feat
2)Yup he beheaded crocodile and Luffy beat Crodile now were even
3)I agree he beat the 3rd strongest of a crew that just got in the NW..how remarkable
4)I agree he fodderized Smoker after Law and Vergo fodderized Smoker
5)I agree he mid diffed Law after Law fought Fugitora and him
6)I agree he clashed with Fugi because Fugi can't hit him back....how about he try ex admiral Aokiji

On top of that Doffy is holding back the part of the straw hat crew law sabo parts of revaluations squad
1,000 of pirates at lot of ppl with > 200 mill bounty kyros king and his cicitens chinjao cavendish Rebecca
Sabo himself and Fuji who is an admiral from leaving the island

Doflamingo ain't holding anybody back he had Pica resurface the island so it could make it harder for them to get there. Sabo on the other hand is holding an Admiral and 2 VA's back...no problem

I have debunked all your arguments try harder please......if Doflamingo is stronger than the 2nd in command of the RA then they are irrelevant to the series in my eyes..

 

[chopstickchakra]

Did he not give sabo a bounty ?
So I think it's safe to say he knows about sabo also sabo doesn't really know anything about doffy abilities or anything he has done because he has kept it secret for 10 years and it is now coming light tht is invalid


The thing about Ivan both him and kuma were out of the army b4 sabo joined so for u to say that is invalid as well

"So I think it's safe to say he knows about sabo also sabo doesn't really know anything about doffy abilities or anything he has done because he has kept it secret for 10 years"

You misunderstood my point. Sabo was a child who was trained in secret from the world by Dragon for the last 12 years or so, that entire time Doffy was a world known pirate, people including Dragon knew about his DF powers(the basics if not more from researching all of his fights leading up to his shichibukai title etc.) Therefore Sabo and the revs would have intel on Doffy's abilities and some skills so they can set up a counter measure for when they inevitably have to fight him. Doffy on the other hand has no knowledge nor anyway of obtaining any knowledge on the fighting style or abilities of Sabo.

Ivan isn't nor never was out of the rev army so your rebuttal is invalid. Ivan was imprisoned but he went right back to the revs once he was freed. Sabo also joined the revs the day Dragon saved him which Ivan was there that day. Ivan has also been back since MF and Sabo is STILL intro'd as #2 now, if Ivan was stronger he'd have taken the position upon his return.

Also Doffy doesn't have Observation haki not shown yet anyway so that is invalid.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Oooo I'll have some fun today off of you

1)Doflamingo has 3 kinds of Haki and he has shown all of his cards. The scary thing about Sabo is we don't know what he has people he has only used 3 fingers on everyones

2)Vergo does not have stronger haki the Sabo. Just because you can go fullbody that doesn't mean shit bro. Having fullbody doesn't change the quality of your haki one bit. Sabo is a man that can crack skulls and break swords with three fingers casually that is way impressive than Vergo's haki..because regradless if he call his hand Talons they are still hands bro. The same hands that breaked the 1st dinvision commander of the BB crew armour like it wasn't shit and snapped Diamente sword. All Vergo did was beat Sanji and beat Smoker who just learned haki and got in the NW

3)I believe Sabo could easily grab those strings because nothing has shown otherwise.How can you bring meteors down on something sharp and not expect it to shred. Sabo also could add flames to his talons to make grabbing the strings way easier



1)I agree he cut the feet of the biggest target in MF and stopped Jozu when he wasn't looking...what a feat
2)Yup he beheaded crocodile and Luffy beat Crodile now were even
3)I agree he beat the 3rd strongest of a crew that just got in the NW..how remarkable
4)I agree he fodderized Smoker after Law and Vergo fodderized Smoker
5)I agree he mid diffed Law after Law fought Fugitora and him
6)I agree he clashed with Fugi because Fugi can't hit him back....how about he try ex admiral Aokiji



Doflamingo ain't holding anybody back he had Pica resurface the island so it could make it harder for them to get there. Sabo on the other hand is holding an Admiral and 2 VA's back...no problem

I have debunked all your arguments try harder please......if Doflamingo is stronger than the 2nd in command of the RA then they are irrelevant to the series in my eyes..

So being that doffy has shown 3 types of Haki means he has shown all his cards/techs that logic :|


Vergo broke sanji leg which is way stronger then anything sabo has broken since coming to dressrosa and that's without Haki u have no proof that states sabo has stronger Haki then vergo is even at tht level in terms of Haki lmfao your logic :|

If sabo grabs doffy strings which r like ****ing swords cuz they cut what ever it touches he will get his hands chopped off -_- logia or not also ur comment contradicts it's self u state tht if u bring down metors what do u think will happen -_- metors >>>>> sabo hand I'll use ur logic against u if u touch something that has cut through the leg mass of a giant what do u think will happen to ur human hand

Again ur logic :|

He stopped jozu first off jozu is a commander in a war if your not paying attention that is your fault secondly jozu has enough defense than no one should've have stopped him jn his track like tht not even mihawk slash did anything to him and doffy just stopped him and then made him hurt his own ppl so for u to clown his feat again ur logic :|
Fodderize is when u completely just beat someone and that person being sanji he is stronger by feats then majority that sabo clashed with bar Fuji so again ur logic :|

Omg ur Fuji logic u just said he clashed with Fuji cuz Fuji couldn't hit him back if tht is case Fuji would've let doffy hit him instead of raising his sword against doffy again ur logic :|

Pica only resurfaced the palace that has nothing to do with the strings around entire island and the fact that no one can get out that is all doffy doing pica has nothing to do with the move bird cage again ur logic :|

U haven't proven anything except the fact tht u r a sabo fanboy who just runs along with the hype and and has no solid evidence to prove otherwise

Hell even sabo fans like my bro Mr Outside Atleast put up good arguement a benefiting sabo mixing his hype with his feats etc but dnt overrate him

U r someone who is simply illogical and can only talk out of your ass which all the talk is based on assumption
Also who cares about your eyes if u read what I asked in the thread you wouldn't be making stupid statements like this
GG