Ψ Hashirama Senju's Truth: Origin Of Wood Release Ψ

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Hashirama survived it because he was Ashuras Re-incarnation.

Yeah, that part was just speculation though as a Fourth possibility
Regarding Mito's faher, you make an excellent point, it was most likely so, however would that really Exclude Hashi's mother being an Uzumaki? perhaps that very thing Brought them closer to each other, and to Hashirama in specific, which ended up in the First "Arranged Union" of the two clans

Well, if we consider Butsuma's character and mind-set, if his wife was an Uzumaki, or that the Uzumakis and Senjus were intermarrying before him, wouldn't he or his predecessors use the Uzumaki Seals to create Senju Jinchūrikis so they would win the war? Butsuma would've used them, but he never did.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Well, if we consider Butsuma's character and mind-set, if his wife was an Uzumaki, or that the Uzumakis and Senjus were intermarrying before him, wouldn't he or his predecessors use the Uzumaki Seals to create Senju Jinchūrikis so they would win the war? Butsuma would've used them, but he never did.

No I meant they were the first, like how Minato and Kushina fell in love, two members of different clans, Love brought marriage, and their marriage brought the clans closer, by the time of Hashi they were close enough to form a Union

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

No I meant they were the first, like how Minato and Kushina fell in love, two members of different clans, Love brought marriage, and their marriage brought the clans closer, by the time of Hashi they were close enough to form a Union

Yes, but Butsuma would've used his wife's clan's Fūinjutsu to bolster his clan's strength to win the war, but he never did, I doubt Butsuma wouldn't have pressured his wife to reveal the art of creating Jins if he was married to one.

 

[Zorø]

Nice theory bro plus rep....

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Yes, but Butsuma would've used his wife's clan's Fūinjutsu to bolster his clan's strength to win the war, but he never did, I doubt Butsuma wouldn't have pressured his wife to reveal the art of creating Jins if he was married to one.

Unless it was to be a secret. Perhaps at the time Senju's and Uzumaki's were at Odds, and Im sure hashi's Grandfather "the uzumaki elder" would have rejected their marriage if it were so
But they Married anyway, however it would have been seen as a Shame due to their customs/traditions

Therefore the elder uzumaki may have never warmed up to Butsuma, but Hashi being his Grandson he had no choice, and it would make sense how they came to know the uzumaki as a back origin
However this is just speculation so I admit, your hypothesis makes more sense, and im Inclined to agree with you

 

[Frikid]

There are several ways Mokuton could have been Given to Hashirama, one of Which could be the "White Zetsus" the DNA of a Specially powerful White Zetsu perhaps One Similar to "Guruguru" could have been transplanted into Hashirama which could theoretically give him Mokuton.
The other Possibility is Giving him the Life Energy of the Shinju, afterall the Life Energy of the Shinju is Connected with the Roots of the Tree, and it has the Ability to Absorb Chakra just as Hashiramas Wood can absorb Chakra, it has the Ability to Produce Life Energy, just as Hashiramas Wood Produces Life Energy, and it has the Ability to Create White Zetsus, just as Hashiramas DNA was used for such purpose.

Hashirama survived it because he was Ashuras Re-incarnation.

1. Zetsu would NEVER risk to put some DNA in hashirama because the survival rate is very very low.It would be out of his character given how desperate he was for fulfillment of his plan.Killing hashirama would be the last thing zetsu would want to do.

Installing DNA in a person is a very complicated process and it is impossible for zetsu to do it without hashirama realizing it(it was obviously not given to him right when he was born like nagato was given rinnegan.)

You provide no proof which suggests BZ even have the ability to give DNA.
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You give no explanation of how zetsu obtained this DNA.

So basically you are saying zetsu tried to give hashirama, god tree's dna (which god know how he obtained) without him realizing it (highly unlikely) and highly risk his life (extremely low survival rate after dna implantation).

This seems highly unlikely to me and it is also out of BZ's character.

2. Zetsu giving him life energy is out of question.
The only way to give him life energy is by giving him chakra. Chakra is a limited thing and it can be finished. Once this chakra(life energy) is finished,hashirama would have no way to use mokuton which is not the case here.

 

[Cael]

Very Interesting I think you should also put ashura in there somewhere, he's after all the closest person to the body of the sage and he probably closest to the yang power.

we know that yang can also be vitality. so him being his reincarnate can also be the reason why he is one that can only do it, yamato have some of his cells so he prob have ashura chakra too, that could play a part in why he can use it too, but not as well as hashirama who is the true reincarnate.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

It is explained, although I agree with the second part. I just wanted you to go a bit more deeper and give me situation that Zetsu created. Perhaps it is limitation of your theory, you aren't Kishi yourself.

I got your interpretation on why BZ gave him, I wanted to know why Hagoromo didn't give him. There are two types of theories in these world, first where you prove your point by using evidences, second when you prove your theory by declining all other possibilities.
I was looking at your theory from second perspective, I believe you can do better Veritas.(maybe I have a lot of expectations from you?)
I am looking forward to next theory about why Hagoromo didn't give him Mokuton.

because we have no evidence that hagoromo had mokuton, and I see little motive behind it.
Zetsu is a yes to Both

Very Interesting I think you should also put ashura in there somewhere, he's after all the closest person to the body of the sage and he probably closest to the yang power.

we know that yang can also be vitality. so him being his reincarnate can also be the reason why he is one that can only do it, yamato have some of his cells so he prob have ashura chakra too, that could play a part in why he can use it too, but not as well as hashirama who is the true reincarnate.

We have no evidence of Whether Hagoromo had Mokuton or Not, so its more logical to base on those we know for sure had it, and that was BZ
however I put hamura as a second given he was said to have inherited his mothers life energy, and hagoromo as a third possibility since he is the father of Shinobi, and we dont know his full potential.

 

[Cael]

because we have no evidence that hagoromo had mokuton, and I see little motive behind it.
Zetsu is a yes to Both


We have no evidence of Whether Hagoromo had Mokuton or Not, so its more logical to base on those we know for sure had it, and that was BZ
however I put hamura as a second given he was said to have inherited his mothers life energy, and hagoromo as a third possibility since he is the father of Shinobi, and we dont know his full potential.

but he was born from his mother who is part of the shinju tree, I agree that he may not have mokuton, but you have to remember that during that time jutsu was just being created, there was an lack of understanding between the process so I am not sure if he had figured out how to even create mokuton, or maybe he was so powerful that he didn't need to create something like that.

you said in your original post that you think "Life Energy" is what is also needed, well life energy can also be called Yang, because yang is vitality itself.

ex. when naruto using the yang kyubi chakra reacts to yamato mokuton.

 

[Minator93]

Nice thread.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

but he was born from his mother who is part of the shinju tree, I agree that he may not have mokuton, but you have to remember that during that time jutsu was just being created, there was an lack of understanding between the process so I am not sure if he had figured out how to even create mokuton, or maybe he was so powerful that he didn't need to create something like that.

you said in your original post that you think "Life Energy" is what is also needed, well life energy can also be called Yang, because yang is vitality itself.

ex. when naruto using the yang kyubi chakra reacts to yamato mokuton.

Yes but We are talking about kaguyas Yin and Yang. Kaguyas yang may have likely contained most of the Life Energy as you said
but ashura is an offspring of hagoromo not hamura

however as you said, we still dont know of hagoromos full capability thats why I've already included him as a third possibility

 

[ShinjuMadara]

I think you're over analyzing it, the third force (life) is just yang, which has already been covered. The Senju, particularly Asura has mastery over yang release which is required for mokuton. It is true that water plus earth should not give life, but since hashirama is a master of yang chakra, he can do it. Yamato inherited this when he got Hashirama's cells which contained lots of yang release.

I'm sure on some level it's related to the Shinju, and it's interesting to see why he didn't have it in all those previous battles so it might have been given to him, but I won't conclude anything because it's still very open-ended.

 

[Recable]

Nice thread. I agree.

 

[Complex]

Nice theory.
It's surprising that I actually read your theory
Rep + =D

 

[evilmayo]

the only problem with this is.... kishi prob doesn't have any idea that these points can be connected LOL

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Speaking of Yggdrasil, is it not also possible that the Shinjū's roots/essence/life/etc also extends to other realms? Why did Kaguya know about the fruit and travelled from afar to consume it if her culture wasn't tied to the Shinjū one way or another?

 

[BLAZE]

Pretty awesome
nice read

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Ψ Veritas Ψ

Ψ Very Enlightening Responses Incorporating Truth And Substantiation Ψ​

 

[TheAncientJinchuuriki]

Nice thread

 

[Angelic.]

good read. more of bz planning things. i dont think we saw hashi use any mokuton until after madara started fighting him for IT, so no way to know how long he had it. i dont see why he wouldnt have it most of his life at some degree tho.
its interesting that bz knew madara was the one, and that hashi cells and mokuton were important for madara to have full power, so kaguya could return in a nice body.