Sasori & Orochimaru vs Minato

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Bantos

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The ''Minato is purely about speed'' thing is getting tiresome. His rasengan is as powerful as the Big Ball Rasengan and he can form them almost instantly. He destroyed the ground on a great scale during the fight with Obito.

During his confrontation with A and B he cut B's tail with a Kunai, but also partially destroyed the ground under him, showing at least above average strength. His speed also helps with firepower. Higher velocity means more force in the collision.

If he summons Ma and Pa he can also maintain a perfect SM for an unlimited time. His toad summons also grant him a good variety of techniques.

Minato isn't as one-dimensional (FTG, rasengan, FTG, rasengan) as most people think.

That was a tentacle.

Minato does not have any feats with his sage mode, and his rasengan is truly just a normal rasengan, that won't work at all against people with regeneration skills.

I have absolutely no idea what he could pull off against these two in sage mode either. A senjutsu rasengan?
Is he even able to pull of Jiraiya's and summon the two? We have no way of knowing.
 

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That was a tentacle.

Minato does not have any feats with his sage mode, and his rasengan is truly just a normal rasengan, that won't work at all against people with regeneration skills.

I have absolutely no idea what he could pull off against these two in sage mode either. A senjutsu rasengan?
Is he even able to pull of Jiraiya's and summon the two? We have no way of knowing.

He was hanging in the air with little to no leverage and managed to force the ''tentacle'' down with enough force to partially destroy the ground under him. That's the point I was making.

Usually the feats of other characters can't be measured on others, but it's pretty apparent what Toad Sage Mode does. Should we assume Sakura and Tsunade have different regeneration skills because they haven't shown the same feats with it? We know what it does. Sensing, enhanced strength, enhanced techniques and such. He has used Senpo Rasengan in canon which is already a superior version of his regular rasengan.

His Rasengan is easily comparable to the Big Ball Rasengan in size. Naruto's rasengan barely fits in his palm while Minato's rasengan covers his entire hand.
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Those rocks he sent flying after hitting the ground with his rasengan are at least three times his size.

The Third databook states that anyone with a toad summoning contract can summon all the toads.
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Minato was able to summon Gamabunta in his youth without the use of Kurama's chakra unlike Naruto so his toad summoning skills shouldn't be brought into question.

I am not saying he definitely wins. I'm just saying that it's not a stomp and either of them ''soloing'' is pretty ridiculous.
 
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He was hanging in the air with little to no leverage and managed to force the ''tentacle'' down with enough force to partially destroy the ground under him. That's the point I was making.

Usually the feats of other characters can't be measured on others, but it's pretty apparent what Toad Sage Mode does. Should we assume Sakura and Tsunade have different regeneration skills because they haven't shown the same feats with it? We know what it does. Sensing, enhanced strength, enhanced techniques and such. He has used Senpo Rasengan in canon which is already a superior version of his regular rasengan.

His Rasengan is easily comparable to the Big Ball Rasengan in size. Naruto's rasengan barely fits in his palm while Minato's rasengan covers his entire hand.
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Those rocks he sent flying after hitting the ground with his rasengan are at least three times his size.

The Third databook states that anyone with a toad summoning contract can summon all the toads.
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Minato was able to summon Gamabunta in his youth without the use of Kurama's chakra unlike Naruto so his toad summoning skills shouldn't be brought into question.

I am not saying he definitely wins. I'm just saying that it's not a stomp and either of them ''soloing'' is pretty ridiculous.

The damage caused by that rasengan was still quite puny, I admit it'd do great damage on Sasori, since he's made of wood, but Orochimaru would just brush it off.

Only way he's actually beating Orochimaru is in sage mode, using the genjutsu attack, which I doubt would work out since he's not getting any time to let the frogs cast it as Orochimaru's snakes will be coming after them.

Well, other way is of course making Orochimaru run out of chakra, but I'd say Orochimaru has more chakra than Minato though. And in the end Orochimaru still has his yamata no orochi jutsu. There's pretty much nothing Minato can do against that.

And I'm not saying this fight would be easy for Orochimaru or Sasori, but both can potentially take Minato alone. Orochimaru and Sasori vs Minato is just clear as hell.
 

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With Fukasaku and Shima by his side, I have no doubt he can win to be honest. And what's funny is that minato has other means of fetching the toad sages without needing to actually summon them.

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Minato has more chakra than orochimaru, don't know about hashi DNA oro but regular orochimaru's chakra is less than Minatos.
 
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With Fukasaku and Shima by his side, I have no doubt he can win to be honest. And what's funny is that minato has other means of fetching the toad sages without needing to actually summon them.

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Minato has more chakra than orochimaru, don't know about hashi DNA oro but regular orochimaru's chakra is less than Minatos.

stop with the fanfic ma & pa with minato and his weak sm oro solos Manda Hydra Aoda rapes all the toads then destroys minato sasori poison senbon kills him to
 

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stop with the fanfic ma & pa with minato and his weak sm oro solos Manda Hydra Aoda rapes all the toads then destroys minato sasori poison senbon kills him to

You need to stop denying the god damn manga just because you are mad on something , Minato doesn't need to fuse with Ma and Pa to win . Frog Song solos.
 

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You need to stop denying the god damn manga just because you are mad on something , Minato doesn't need to fuse with Ma and Pa to win . Frog Song solos.

you need to stop using fanfic minato cannot use frog song and it doest solo anyways sasori is a puppet he can wake up oro or they counter it by dodges or using a counter attack Manda Aoda & Hydra most likely solos
 

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you need to stop using fanfic minato cannot use frog song and it doest solo anyways sasori is a puppet he can wake up oro or they counter it by dodges or using a counter attack Manda Aoda & Hydra most likely solos

I don't know what manga you are reading , but yes Minato Cannot Use Frog Song but Ma and Pa can .
 

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I don't know what manga you are reading , but yes Minato Cannot Use Frog Song but Ma and Pa can .

minato cannot fuse with them in order to use frog song or maintain sm long enough and frog song can be dodge without a tunnled area not like it will have any effect on the opposing team anyways
 

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minato cannot fuse with them in order to use frog song or maintain sm long enough and frog song can be dodge without a tunnled area not like it will have any effect on the opposing team anyways

First yes he can fuse with them . They can fuse with everyone . That was the first thing Fukusaku wanted to do with Naruto . He wasn't able to do it only because Kurama . Bring me legit Proof that Minato cannot fuse with them . And yes when he is fused his SM can be maintained for a large periods of time since Ma and Pa will collect Natural Energy for him . And second where it is stated Ma and Pa must be fused with someone in order to use Frog Song ? Enlighten me . And Yes it will have effect since the other team has ears and can hear with them .
 

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First yes he can fuse with them . They can fuse with everyone . That was the first thing Fukusaku wanted to do with Naruto . He wasn't able to do it only because Kurama . Bring me legit Proof that Minato cannot fuse with them . And yes when he is fused his SM can be maintained for a large periods of time since Ma and Pa will collect Natural Energy for him . And second where it is stated Ma and Pa must be fused with someone in order to use Frog Song ? Enlighten me . And Yes it will have effect since the other team has ears and can hear with them .

Give me proof that they can fuse with him. Firstly as i said rather he can fuse with them or not doesnt change the fact that sound genjutsu can be countered with high pressure wind power or dodge because the song have notes you can visibly orochimaru having info on this could dodge or atleast hide himself from the sound waves also this takes prep witch they wont allow him to get. Sasori has no physical body he is nothing more then a puppet no form of genjutsu would work on him because of this and if you didnt know that im done with this debate because its common sense. With the aid of a 100 puppets Manda and oro they comfortably take this.
 

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I think Sasori and Orochi wins this high diff
 

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stop with the fanfic ma & pa with minato and his weak sm oro solos Manda Hydra Aoda rapes all the toads then destroys minato sasori poison senbon kills him to
No fan fic here, just what kishi has said. Sorry that doesn't sit well with u. Calling sage mode weak doesn't change its power power lol, it still does the same damage.
 

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orochimaru alone solo minato cant kill him and no need for adding sasori
 

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If Minato can enter SM and summon the toad sages then this could get really interested. Oro is the bigger threat here. I'm guessing it would have to take a SM enhanced rasengan to end him.... Hmm Minato high diff.
 

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Who cares about soloing; minato gets overwhelmed.
 
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