[Theory] problems with Sasuke's new powers = Sasuke shouldve been much stronger then Naruto!!

[Xāvî1]

Sasuke is equal to naruto not stronger

 

[InvaderRaz]

don't do crack otherwise you'll have a child like minamoto.

 

[Xlad]

Why are you flaming yourself with an alt?

 

[Mr Hiru]

I doubt Sasuke being stronger than Naruto and viceversa.

It would neglect the meaning of Yin and Yang. The balance would dissappear, and all the speech about cooperation would be senseless.

 

[dewooder123]

I doubt Sasuke being stronger than Naruto and viceversa.

It would neglect the meaning of Yin and Yang. The balance would dissappear, and all the speech about cooperation would be senseless.

That's a really good point.

 

[beast7960]

1. Hashi's cells would no longer cause Sasuke to awaken the rinnegan seeing as how hashi no longer contains ashura's chakra, it's within Naruto now.
2. So if sasuke did want to awaken the Rinnegan, he would need a piece of Naruto.
3. It took Madara until he was an old man to finally awaken it, and that's probably because it took years for that piece of flesh with chakra to mix and balance itself out with Madara's Indra chakra.

 

[minamoto]

I doubt Sasuke being stronger than Naruto and viceversa.

It would neglect the meaning of Yin and Yang. The balance would dissappear, and all the speech about cooperation would be senseless.

thats not the point of the thread...sasuke is both yin and yang....but naruto is just yin..thats the point of the thread bro

 

[Mr Hiru]

thats not the point of the thread...sasuke is both yin and yang....but naruto is just yin..thats the point of the thread bro

Wrong. Naruto is Yin and Yang as well.

Yang = Body (He is a Jinchuuriki), and he also got the Sun Mark from Hagoromo (Sun = Yang).
Yin = Naruto has Kurama's Yin Avatar. You should remember that the Yang half of Kurama was absorbed by Madara.

In the other hand,

Yang = Sasuke has Hashirama's chakra (Yang)
Yin = Sasuke has Uchiha DNA (overflow of spiritual energy, which is the Yin of the Chakra) + the Moon Mark from Hagoromo (Moon = Yin).

 

[minamoto]

Wrong. Naruto is Yin and Yang as well.

Yang = Body (He is a Jinchuuriki), and he also got the Sun Mark from Hagoromo (Sun = Yang).
Yin = Naruto has Kurama's Yin Avatar. You should remember that the Yang half of Kurama was absorbed by Madara.

In the other hand,

Yang = Sasuke has Hashirama's chakra (Yang)
Yin = Sasuke has Uchiha DNA (overflow of spiritual energy, which is the Yin of the Chakra) + the Moon Mark from Hagoromo (Moon = Yin).

UR WRONG .....we are talkin about yin ang yang of the sage.....senju vs uchiha powers....naruto dont even have one of them !!..where as sasuke has both

....yin yang kurama is wrong exemple..cuz both yin and yang kurama are one being....its like when you slice a cake in 2 halves then slice the halves to other halves...the substance wont change

 

[Angelic.]

naruto has yang seal as his major power, yin kurama to give him some yin. with sasuke its yin seal as strongest and hashi cells as minor power

and my god ur dumb

 

[Mr Hiru]

UR WRONG .....we are talkin about yin ang yang of the sage.....senju vs uchiha powers....naruto dont even have one of them !!..where as sasuke has both

....yin yang kurama is wrong exemple..cuz both yin and yang kurama are one being....its like when you slice a cake in 2 halves then slice the halves to other halves...the substance wont change

You're forgetting what's esential in this matter.

You're forgetting that the sources of the powers of the Bijuus are the same as the sources of the Sage. These powers came from the Shinjuu and the Holy Fruit. This is the main reason of why Sage Energy is composed by Shizen (Nature) Energy, why Naruto had to enter Sage Mode to measure the Juubi's power, and why Kurama had to use the Sage gathering position to collect chakra. This means that there is no mistake about this as a fact.

So you're purposely ignoring a determinating fact to forge that question in this thread: The fact that Uchiha/Senju powers are related to the Bijuus by inheritance.

I'm only stating what are the variables in game... essentially saying that Sasuke should not be stronger than Naruto at this point. It's up to you to ignore this, but you can't say I'm wrong when the relationships have already been established.

Holy Tree = Peaceful Juubi + Fruit

Kaguya ate the fruit provoked Juubi on rampage

Current Kaguya = Kaguya + Juubi on Rampage + Fruit

Kaguya got the powers of the Shinjuu = Hagoromo + Hamura (both have the powers of the Juubi by inheritance)

Hagoromo = Ashura + Indra (got the powers of the Juubi, by inheritance)

Naruto = Ashura (got the powers of the Juubi, by transmigrater inheritance)

Sasuke = Indra (got the powers of the Juubi, by transmigrater inheritance)

Juubi = Mix of all Bijuus.

Now everyone and everything is related somehow. This is just logical.

You can't discard Yin/Yang Kurama from the equation.

'nuff said.

 

[valandil988]

Sasuke doesn't have sage mode, he doesn't seem to have Mokuton, he doesn't have anything but that weird teleporting/Izanagi power.

Honestly with the number of feats Naruto has thrown out this past few chapters he has made Sasuke look seriously bad.

 

[minamoto]

Sasuke doesn't have sage mode, he doesn't seem to have Mokuton, he doesn't have anything but that weird teleporting/Izanagi power.

Honestly with the number of feats Naruto has thrown out this past few chapters he has made Sasuke look seriously bad.

sasuke is stronger then naruto.....sasuke already defeated naruto in the valley of end and didn't want to kill him....sasuke has yin and yang powers wich enabled him to awaken rinnegan...whereasnaruto just had the yin powers of hagoromo....sasuke has been very usefull in the war...always in offence....all naruto doed is TALK NO JUTSU !!!!..

 

[NeutralChaos]

You cannot awaken Rinnegan with Hashirama's DNA. Sasuke has Sharingan. He only has an overflow of Yin power.

That's the most retarded thing I've read all day. Do you think Madara just awakened them with pixie magic?

 

[The Invincible Ninja God]

sasuke is stronger then naruto.....sasuke already defeated naruto in the valley of end and didn't want to kill him....sasuke has yin and yang powers wich enabled him to awaken rinnegan...whereasnaruto just had the yin powers of hagoromo....sasuke has been very usefull in the war...always in offence....all naruto doed is TALK NO JUTSU !!!!..

Sasuke faced Naruto after Naruto ran a guantlet. pursing sound-nin, having chakra drained, facing kimimaro, using a lot of clones...then facing a fresh Sasuke at the valley, then his body started giving out after being damaged by Kyuubi's chakra/he couldn't use an arm and even then he was holding back by only scratching his headband instead of blowing his head off with rasengan. He could have easily ended it by summoning bunta...it might cooperate knowing orochimaru was involved.

in their shipuuden confrontation Naruto again face Orochimaru first and burned himself out before ever facing Sasuke.

based on these facts sasuke has always been portrayed as weaker.

 

[minamoto]

Sasuke faced Naruto after Naruto ran a guantlet. pursing sound-nin, having chakra drained, facing kimimaro, using a lot of clones...then facing a fresh Sasuke at the valley, then his body started giving out after being damaged by Kyuubi's chakra/he couldn't use an arm and even then he was holding back by only scratching his headband instead of blowing his head off with rasengan. He could have easily ended it by summoning bunta...it might cooperate knowing orochimaru was involved.

in their shipuuden confrontation Naruto again face Orochimaru first and burned himself out before ever facing Sasuke.

based on these facts sasuke has always been portrayed as weaker.

NARUTO GOT THE KIYIBI'S CHAKRA !!... its useless to find execuses to Naruto..

 

[The Invincible Ninja God]

NARUTO GOT THE KIYIBI'S CHAKRA !!... its useless to find execuses to Naruto..

So? Just saying how it is since you seem to try twist facts and make it like it was a even match.

Sasuke was hoped up on snake sage chakra and Kyuubi's chakra was damaging Naruto. and Naruto didn't even go all out and summon. reality's harsh but we have to face it.

Sasuke was running away because he was jealous of how strong Naruto was in the first place.

 

[minamoto]

So? Just saying how it is since you seem to try twist facts and make it like it was a even match.

Sasuke was hoped up on snake sage chakra and Kyuubi's chakra was damaging Naruto. and Naruto didn't even go all out and summon. reality's harsh but we have to face it.

Sasuke was running away because he was jealous of how strong Naruto was in the first place.

the curse seal also was restraining sasuke's true strenght...the harsh reality isn't when a main character wins...the reality become HARSH to accept is when sasuke defeated the main characters...so plz deal with it

 

[KRZYNASTY]

Do you think Madara just awakened them with pixie magic?

The Rinnegan in Madara was not awaken by Hashirama's DNA, but by the transmigrate's chakra in him.

Therefore, the DNA doesn't matter. Therefore, you don't awaken Rinnegan with actual human DNA.

 

[dewooder123]

Sasuke doesn't have sage mode, he doesn't seem to have Mokuton, he doesn't have anything but that weird teleporting/Izanagi power.

Honestly with the number of feats Naruto has thrown out this past few chapters he has made Sasuke look seriously bad.

Explain to me how? If it weren't for Sasuke saving Naruto from the inifinite tsukuyomi, Naruto wouldn't have even SEEN Kaguya. Sasuke is the one being the true leader, last chapter just showed how hopeless of a "leader" Naruto would be. If anything it's the other way around.

As for you saying that Naruto was "weakened" up to their battle you're wrong. Naruto only fought Kimmimaro and couldn't lay a finger on him, but Kimmimaro never touched Naruto either, also Naruto didn't waste any chakra because that entire time he was using Kurama's. Not to mention during that fight Naruto died... twice and would have died a third time. It was Kurama who saved him. Fact is, take away the nine tails and curse mark, Naruto still gets shit on.