Current Kakashi vs old alive hiruzen

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Kakashi is current, means two normal eyes ( insteat of that he has much more chakra) he also has zabuzas blade and his dog summons.
Hiruzen is the old one but has enma ( really strong partner)
 

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Kakashi without a sharingan loses.
 

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Tired of these current Kakashi threads. We don't even know how he fights yet. Has his stamina increased due to loss of sharingan? Can he move more freely? Can he still use lightning blade effectively?

There's literally no point in discussing.
 

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Kakashi's raikiri wolf would solo

Or raikiri chain
 

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Tired of these current Kakashi threads. We don't even know how he fights yet. Has his stamina increased due to loss of sharingan? Can he move more freely? Can he still use lightning blade effectively?

There's literally no point in discussing.

His raikiri blade, suiton, Doton, and basic sharingan skill go out the window.

Since he uses the sharingan for it.

His raikiri blade is the only useful physical attack he has..
 

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His raikiri blade, suiton, Doton, and basic sharingan skill go out the window.

Since he uses the sharingan for it.

His raikiri blade is the only useful physical attack he has..

His suiton and doton leave him because?
 

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Hiruzen would win even if Kakashi had sharingan.
 

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Because he wants them to but has no reasonable explanation as to why they leave him whatsoever. One of the most retarded things I've read to be honest.

I think he means that since he lost his sharingan he no longer has access to the jutsu's he's copied.
 

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I think he means that since he lost his sharingan he no longer has access to the jutsu's he's copied.

Thats BS of the highest order. The only jutsu he lost with sharingan is the sharingan genjutsu and kamui. His other jutsu aren't stored within his sharingan are they? He's already learned and mastered those techniques, the sharingan can't take that away.
 

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Kakashi wins. He was the best ninjutsu user in Konoha even when Hiruzen was still alive, and besides that, he is faster, better reflexes and better taijutsu
 

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Hiruzen Mid-Dif. Kakashi with no sharingan is overrated.
 

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Hiruzen Mid-Dif. Kakashi with no sharingan is overrated.
No he isn't:
He is underrated if anything. The only overrated one is Hiruzen U_U
 

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Because he wants them to but has no reasonable explanation as to why they leave him whatsoever. One of the most retarded things I've read to be honest.

And you are a complete retard if you think Zabuza's fight never happen.

I'm literally supporting Kakashi in this match up.

Why don't you shut the f*ck up moron

Obviously you don't know sh*t
 

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He copied it....

(Not 100% on Doton) but he copied the Justus, he doesn't have the sharingan anymore.
He can use all those jutsus regardless if he has sharingan or not. They are already part of his arsenal
 

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And you are a complete retard if you think Zabuza's fight never happen.

I'm literally supporting Kakashi in this match up.

Why don't you shut the f*ck up moron

Obviously you don't know sh*t
Sorry I made you cry, I'll go out and get you some cream for your butt.
 
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